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Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate Benghazi leaves 4 dead, inc. U.S. Ambassador[W:939]

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You don't really want to get into the whole issue of ignoring warning signs, do you? Especially not in light of the recent news coming out about the 9/11 attacks.

Bush Officials and 9/11: The Available Intelligence, Security Priority | Swampland | TIME.com
 
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I don't think I'm explaining myself clearly. The world is not here to serve me therefore I have to accept others belief even though it may offend me and does impact my life in negative ways. Stem cell research was halted under Bush for 8 years because of religion not science. Religion doesn't offend me because of what they do behind closed doors it's because of irrational s*** like this that could have a major impact on my life.
 
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sharon said:
I wouldn't jump to conclusions.. There are many think tanks and they serve a purpose beyond intel. Wait..
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What kind of nonsense is this ! Spare me any advice you have.

 
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Al-Jazerra is reporting that our Ambassador died from smoke inhalation. Others are saying from the Fire. Libya has no real Army so the troops they sent were totally inadequate. They also raided the Embassy. Then let the protestors loot it while they slinked off into the night.

Plus a few of them were killed outright.

Clinton says lil group. I don't consider 300 a little group, I consider it an Assualt Force. Which this was!
 
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Excluding God from the platform has everything to do with the separation of church and state and nothing to do with Islam. It is those who INSIST on such language who are closer to Islamists in ideology as they also do not wish such a distinction -- the only difference being that one group pushes for a Christian God and the other a Muslim.
 
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Ikari said:
I don't think that has anything to do with the current situation.
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It is consistent with illustrating how those on the Left entertain a double standard about Christianity, Israel, appeasing Islam, and disregarding American values.

It is fully consistent with what we see in this thread.
 
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apdst said:
One of his several wives was 7 years old! :rofl
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Accurate.


apdst said:
Muhammed slaughtered thousands of people and took all their ****.
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Accurate, but an unfair half truth.

apdst said:
Muhammed was a murdering piece of ****.
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Aren't we all.

Of course, "what would Jesus do" is exactly why we see a difference between the religions in the year 2012.
 
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Eighty Deuce said:
It is consistent with illustrating how those on the Left entertain a double standard about Christianity, Israel, appeasing Islam, and disregarding American values.

It is fully consistent with what we see in this thread.
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...maybe. I don't really see it as anything more than an aside. There are certainly people who cannot live with the repercussions of freedom, but that goes both ways. The left alone didn't pass the Patriot Act, create HLS, TSA, etc.
 
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I read the same. 300 maniacs is not the same as 300 trained battle ready troops. That is a very important distinction to me as the means to handle this situations would be different in each case.
 
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MSgt said:
Aren't we all.

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No.

I may be a piece of ****, but I sure haven't murdered any hapless old poets who dissed me.
 
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Eighty Deuce said:
What kind of nonsense is this ! Spare me any advice you have.
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Oh yeah........ "Raised the possibility".
 
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Oh really ? So, for the first time ever, "God" was to be excluded from the platform.

Your point is nonsense, btw. "In God We Trust" Ever heard of that ?

How about:

 
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Eighty Deuce said:
It is consistent with illustrating how those on the Left entertain a double standard about Christianity, Israel, appeasing Islam, and disregarding American values.

It is fully consistent with what we see in this thread.
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Nah -- you are just trying to indulge in partisan cr@p.
 
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MSgt said:
It doesn't help Israel any more than the Tea Party has helped the Republican Party. Fanaticism is fanaticism and it rolls the eyes of most.
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But of course that wasn't the question and strawmanning to the Tea Party or talk of 'helping Israel' doesn't prove your case either.

You're an intelligent guy with a lot of insights but you seem to be avoiding the central issue in this case.
 
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MSgt said:
Accurate.




Accurate, but an unfair half truth.



Aren't we all.

Of course, "what would Jesus do" is exactly why we see a difference between the religions in the year 2012.
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How is it an unfair half-truth?
 
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sharon said:
I wouldn't jump to conclusions..
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That's not true. You immediately blamed a movie and told us all how the release of that movie excuses the violence.
 
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Gardener said:
Nah -- you are just trying to indulge in partisan cr@p.
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Weak ......
 
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Eighty Deuce said:
Weak ......
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If you need any suggestions for some exercises you might try, I would be happy to oblige.
 
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Obama has ordered all flags to half mast for the US Ambassador.

Romney has come out and stated that Americas first reaction.....should be outrage at the affront of our sovereinty. But that trhe Obama administration coming out with an apology due to the movie.....is not acceptable.

Either way.....one thing is Clear. Obama was touting Foreign Policy to avoid the Economy issue. But now.....they were just caught with their pants down. As they knew 911 was coming round the corner. 2 Embassies attacked. But nothing said by the press about the attackin June.

Moreover Obama and Clinton have made speeches. But Morsi in Egypt hasn't said a word other than to contact his Embassy here in the states. Obama should be calling out Morsi and kinda like letting him know WorldWide. You Best Speak-up mofo.

Right now I would have my hand on that Check 1.3 Billion we were going to send them. I would be like......I think i will be holding onto this for the time being.
 
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Ikari said:
...maybe. I don't really see it as anything more than an aside. There are certainly people who cannot live with the repercussions of freedom, but that goes both ways. The left alone didn't pass the Patriot Act, create HLS, TSA, etc.
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Yet, in this thread, you yourself have taken serious issues with not just one poster, but several, who took positions that you saw as almost absurd. Precisely because they elevated the outrage of the Muslims, over some obscure criticisms in a video, to being legitimate provocation for violence such as this.

It was not one fringe kook that you noted. There's at least a half dozen here chanting the same line. Go to other forums, and there are more suck kooks.

Trust me, it is not "an aside".
 
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Google this.

Liveleak ambassador Christopher Stevens pictures.

That will make your blood boil.
 
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ecofarm said:
That's not true. You immediately blamed a movie and told us all how the release of that movie excuses the violence.
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yet she grandstands about the need for "honesty". :roll:
 
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It is absurd. I'm tired of this mantra of "oh terrorists are gonna get us, we have to curtail our freedom!". It's ridiculous. I'm not going to let terrorists dictate MY exercise of rights. Whether it be some guy making a movie, or being treated like a god damned human being at the airport or the government not spying on us without a warrant. But this behavior is seen on both sides, both sides are ridiculous and are looking to curtail my exercise of rights because they're afraid of some piss ant terrorists. And living in all this fear, look at what we've done to ourselves. We've succeeded in depriving ourselves of freedom to much greater degree than any terrorist organization could ever hope to accomplish.

It's time to stop being a bunch of ******s.
 
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Personally, I think you are confusing the democrat party as a whole, with liberals, and many democrats are not actually liberals- merely mirror-opposites of those on the right who are authoritarian. You will find liberals among both democrats and republicans, and you will also find authoritarian-types on both sides of the aisle. It seems to be the authoritarians on the left who are predominantly at the forefront of the dem party currently.
 
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sharon said:
I wouldn't jump to conclusions..
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In addition to immediately excusing the violence and blaming it on a movie, you claimed that Egypt was being manipulated. ~"But they aren't the only ones", you also claimed that the US was being manipulated. Obviously, the "manipulator" to which you refer is Israel. So, basically, you blamed the violence on Israel.

THAT's not jumping to conclusions?! That's a freaking olympic running long-jump to a conclusion! To jump to conclusions like that, one needs some kind of a jetpack!
 
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