Looks like most libertarians around here love their drugs.
I'd support Allow opting out of Social Security and deregulating healthcare right off the bat.
The rest, as stated, are too vague or far for me to accept. Tone them down and clarify and I'd likely accept all of them.
Laissez-faire capitalism
End foreign aid
End gun bans
Deregulate healthcare
End welfare
Allow opting out of Social Security
Semi-amnesty for illegal aliens(work for amnesty)
End drug prohibition
Avoid interventionism in foreign policy
Checked all except "avid interventionism in foreign policy" - WTF? Sure, there would be some amount of defensive militarism when foreign dictators like Hugo Chavez try to steal American property, but I'm sure corporations don't need Mommy Government to protect their own.
I think it would be best to move beyond general discussion of specific topics and instead into discussion of specifically libertarian justifications for or against certain policy proposals. For example, instead of discussing the purely economic facets of firearm prohibition, someone could say that it conflicts with civil libertarian notions, and someone else could say that unrestricted firearm exchange can generate negative externalities that are authoritarian in nature, for example.
Redress doesn't care what socialist "libertarians" think. He's interested in American libertarianism.
By the way, did I do ok at getting the capital "L" Libertarian parties platform covered with the basics? Is there other issues that capital "L" types consider more important, or how about little "l" types?
Yea, you got the jist of it. I think the reason most libertarians are reticent to associate with Libertarians not because of their policy views but because of their extreme rhetoric. They aren't pragmatic or realistic. They seem like a childish political party to me. Not to mention the fact that most libertarians deny the concept of party loyalty.
Yea, you got the jist of it. I think the reason most libertarians are reticent to associate with Libertarians not because of their policy views but because of their extreme rhetoric. They aren't pragmatic or realistic. They seem like a childish political party to me. Not to mention the fact that most libertarians deny the concept of party loyalty.
Could I get you when you have time to expand on this please.
That's probably true; most formal LP party groups tend to go overboard emphasizing the wrong things -- drug legalization, open borders -- things that most mainstream people can't/don't get behind.
If they spent most of their time in the areas where people in general CAN relate, they'd have much more traction.
I'd take that a step further. They emphasize dramatic changes that would be their version of utopia, and it turns away people who agree with a more moderated approach. For example ...
Many people support medical marijuana, very few support legalizing heroin, cocaine, and meth.
Many people support deregulation and free market solutions, very few support striking down anti-trust laws, safety standards and inspections, anti-child labor laws, and such.
The LP focuses on their ultimate goal, which is way outside of where the current debates are centered. They should be focused on winning current debates by proposing realistic libertarian based solutions and changing things in digestable incremental steps. I just shake my heads when I see libertarians say things like they'd half the federal government if they are elected. That's too big of a change for the average voter to even comprehend, let alone support. Libertarians would get a lot more traction on that sort of issue if they said they'd cut government waste, pork spending, and reform entitlements to make them more cost effective and eliminate people from abusing the system.
Well crap, I voted first. Sorry. I'm more of a Monarchist than a Libertarian.A reminder: please do not vote in this poll if you are not a libertarian...Joe, I am looking at you right now...
Oh, and third poll option, the first word should be "avoid", not "avid"...
I pulled a list of issues that the Libertarian party calls for on it's website(Issues | Libertarian Party). I here alot about big "L" vs little "l" Libertarians, so which of these issues do the libertarians here believe in.
If you are not a Libertarian, can you please not answer this poll. let's leave it to the Libertarians please.
Edit: Poll added
Redress doesn't care what socialist "libertarians" think. He's interested in American libertarianism.
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