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well, first off if a fetus could talk, i might have a different view. a fetus is not a human being, its human life, but not a human being, because it can not consciously think. and to be able to talk, which you brought up, requires that.satinloveslibs said:Liberals just say feotus just to cover up how sick they really are. What if you were an aborted baby? Would you say to your mom-" Mom it's ok that you didn't want to take care of me. You were right. Killing me was the best thing that you have ever done." KILL KILL KILL!
:bravo:Blue Hobgoblin said:I find it really interesting how cons moan so much about abortion, yet are completely willing to cut benefits to underprivileged children and parents. I guess fro them life is only precious when it is in the womb.
satinloveslibs said:Liberals just say feotus just to cover up how sick they really are. What if you were an aborted baby? Would you say to your mom-" Mom it's ok that you didn't want to take care of me. You were right. Killing me was the best thing that you have ever done." KILL KILL KILL!
ShamMol said:well, first off if a fetus could talk, i might have a different view. a fetus is not a human being, its human life, but not a human being, because it can not consciously think. and to be able to talk, which you brought up, requires that.
Liberals just say feotus just to cover up how sick they really are. What if you were an aborted baby? Would you say to your mom-" Mom it's ok that you didn't want to take care of me. You were right. Killing me was the best thing that you have ever done." KILL KILL KILL!
I could equally say, "Abortion good, death penatly bad" in retaliation.Well said! Abortion sin, death penalty, good!
satinloveslibs said:Do you belive in killing dogs and cats and all kinds of innocent animals just because they can't talk. It's illegal to murder dogs and cats, but not a baby?
Thanks for the "retard" comments about me. Do you think that everyone with a different viewpoint than you is stupid?
Let's see, you start this thread...you call us sick, we have the right to call you whatever the F()ck we want.satinloveslibs said:Do you belive in killing dogs and cats and all kinds of innocent animals just because they can't talk. It's illegal to murder dogs and cats, but not a baby?
Thanks for the "retard" comments about me. Do you think that everyone with a different viewpoint than you is stupid?
KansasMeg said:First of all, if satinloveslibs, would you say cottonlovescons? I'm sure you mean Satan, and with a name like that I can already tell I'm dealing with someone with very high "Christian" moral standards. :roll:
But back to the topic at hand...
Actually, I've found that many liberals are in fact against abortion, except in extreme cases, such as rape or if the mother's life is at stake. And you'll find that many conservatives feel the same way, even while calling themselves "pro-life".
My guess is that you are upset about the conservative portrayal of the liberal view on abortion. Listening to too much Rush, are you?
ShamMol said:nope, he is just an idiot who decided not to debate but to call us sick...insert explicative here.
KansasMeg said:First of all, if satinloveslibs, would you say cottonlovescons? I'm sure you mean Satan, and with a name like that I can already tell I'm dealing with someone with very high "Christian" moral standards. :roll:
But back to the topic at hand...
Actually, I've found that many liberals are in fact against abortion, except in extreme cases, such as rape or if the mother's life is at stake. And you'll find that many conservatives feel the same way, even while calling themselves "pro-life".
My guess is that you are upset about the conservative portrayal of the liberal view on abortion. Listening to too much Rush, are you?
KansasMeg said:Satanloveslibs ~ I'm against abortion with the exceptions of rape, when the mother's life is at stake, and other rare and extreme cases. I do not support abortion used as birth control. You'll find many, if not most, other liberals feel the same way. Yes, there are people out there who support a woman's right to choose in ANY case, but I think you'll find those to be a minority.
The "pro-life" vs. "pro-choice" distinction seems to be only in that pro-lifers want to see it banned, while pro-choicers want to see it safe, legal, and rare. We want the option there if it becomes NECESSARY.
V.I. Lenin said:Am I the only one who finds it ironic that the same people who are against abortion as birth control (as a whole) support and institution (catholic church) that is strongly opposed to birth control?
Abortions are not done as often as it seems to be said. No one is out there having sex, aborting and repeating. And no one wants to actually terminate the fetus. But the cold, sad truth is it's a fetus. Yes, we wish to think of it as a baby. But it's a fetus. The Right wing has it's heart in the right place, they really care for this, but it is simply a mass of cells. And yes, i was a mass of cells once. We all were. So don't try to guilt trip anyone into "ohhh you were that zygote once what if you were aborted blahhhh". No one wishes for abortions to be done, but they must be kept legal. Otherwise, children will be abandoned or women will turn towards back door methods (i.e., coat hangers and other infamous ways).
Thats my two cents at least.
Well said!MOZO said:I do not believe in abortion. There are always some exceptions but on the whole that is my personal view.
I would not make the presumption that my view, beliefs etc, are what is good for all of society.
If a fetus could talk it may say " I understand your decision. It's what I was chosen for."
Jeez, where have you been hiding...I love you and your respect for law.MOZO said:I do not believe in abortion. There are always some exceptions but on the whole that is my personal view.
I would not make the presumption that my view, beliefs etc, are what is good for all of society.
If a fetus could talk it may say " I understand your decision. It's what I was chosen for."
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