LGBTQ people face 'groomer' accusations and trolling as culture war rages on (1 Viewer)

[Phys251]

False online accusations of 'grooming' against LGBTQ people are spiking, experts say

The rising tide of online abuse is challenging as the internet has become an essential place for young people to learn about LGBTQ identities and connect with community members.

www.nbcnews.com

The most prominent slurs center on accusations that LGBTQ people and their allies are pedophiles, using the word “grooming,” which the National Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Children defines as when “someone builds a relationship, trust, and emotional connection with a child or young person so they can manipulate, exploit and abuse them.”

The term has been weaponized online, and it now appears almost constantly on many social media platforms. Data from the social media platform Reddit analyzed by Jeremy Blackburn, an assistant professor of computer science at Binghamton University in New York who studies online extremism, found about a 100 percent increase since the beginning of the year in discussion of “grooming” in conjunction with various LGBTQ slurs starting in early March and accelerating in mid-to-late March.

Fueled by right-wing hysteria, righties have settled on false accusations of "groomers" and pedophiles for anyone who's LGBTQ and out of the closet. This canard is nothing new; as far back as the 70s and 80s, teachers who were gay were accused of the very same things. Interesting how straight cis people are not accused of this for making public their own sexual orientation.

In addition to being slanderous, false accusations against LGBTQ people, they cheapen the accusations against actual groomers, who have been given a golden opportunity to play victim when legitimately accused.

 

[Schism]

Fueled by right-wing hysteria, righties have settled on false accusations of "groomers" and pedophiles for anyone who's LGBTQ and out of the closet.

That's a straw man. Nobody cares if you want to dress up in women's clothing.

Cite and quote who is saying what you claim about " for anyone who's LGBTQ and out of the closet"

This is a lie.

This canard is nothing new;

No it's not - it's YOUR team's canard at that.

as far back as the 70s and 80s, teachers who were gay were accused of the very same things. Interesting how straight cis people are not accused of this for making public their own sexual orientation.

A Red Herring and non-sequitur.

In addition to being slanderous, false accusations against LGBTQ people, they cheapen the accusations against actual groomers, who have been given a golden opportunity to play victim when legitimately accused.

A false claim you can't support.

The entire OP is a parade of emotional outbursts devoid of factual information.

 

[Nomad4Ever]

Fueled by right-wing hysteria, righties have settled on false accusations of "groomers" and pedophiles for anyone who's LGBTQ and out of the closet.

This will inevitably lead to acts of stochastic terrorism being committed against LGTBQ people by lunatics on the right. They will act with all the moral high leeway of someone who believes they are attacking a pedophile.

Not only have they been going after LGBTQ people, but they've taken to labeling anyone who isn't anti-LGBTQ as a groomer as well.

 

[tres borrachos]

False online accusations of 'grooming' against LGBTQ people are spiking, experts say

The rising tide of online abuse is challenging as the internet has become an essential place for young people to learn about LGBTQ identities and connect with community members.

www.nbcnews.com

Fueled by right-wing hysteria, righties have settled on false accusations of "groomers" and pedophiles for anyone who's LGBTQ and out of the closet. This canard is nothing new; as far back as the 70s and 80s, teachers who were gay were accused of the very same things. Interesting how straight cis people are not accused of this for making public their own sexual orientation.

In addition to being slanderous, false accusations against LGBTQ people, they cheapen the accusations against actual groomers, who have been given a golden opportunity to play victim when legitimately accused.

"Grooming" is the new "woke" catchphrase for the ignorant.

 

[VySky]

False online accusations of 'grooming' against LGBTQ people are spiking, experts say

The rising tide of online abuse is challenging as the internet has become an essential place for young people to learn about LGBTQ identities and connect with community members.

www.nbcnews.com

Fueled by right-wing hysteria, righties have settled on false accusations of "groomers" and pedophiles for anyone who's LGBTQ and out of the closet. This canard is nothing new; as far back as the 70s and 80s, teachers who were gay were accused of the very same things. Interesting how straight cis people are not accused of this for making public their own sexual orientation.

In addition to being slanderous, false accusations against LGBTQ people, they cheapen the accusations against actual groomers, who have been given a golden opportunity to play victim when legitimately accused.

And I get accused of multiple threads on same topic.

Carry on.

 

[VySky]

False online accusations of 'grooming' against LGBTQ people are spiking, experts say

The rising tide of online abuse is challenging as the internet has become an essential place for young people to learn about LGBTQ identities and connect with community members.

www.nbcnews.com

Fueled by right-wing hysteria, righties have settled on false accusations of "groomers" and pedophiles for anyone who's LGBTQ and out of the closet. This canard is nothing new; as far back as the 70s and 80s, teachers who were gay were accused of the very same things. Interesting how straight cis people are not accused of this for making public their own sexual orientation.

In addition to being slanderous, false accusations against LGBTQ people, they cheapen the accusations against actual groomers, who have been given a golden opportunity to play victim when legitimately accused.

You know what’s strange? Weird acronym people who think they are normal.

They are not.

 

[Nomad4Ever]

Cite and quote who is saying what you claim about " for anyone who's LGBTQ and out of the closet"

Wow, you really just went and handed me the easiest burden of proof ever. Here you go. Here is the spokesperson for Ron DeSantis claiming anyone who opposes the bill 'Don't say gay bill' is a groomer.

Here is making some pretty sweeping claims;


Here is the result of this kind of language;

As the Amtrak train pulled into Diridon Station in San Jose on 12 April, while the family was playing together and talking while in their seats, a man approached and screamed at their son: “Remember what I told you. They stole you. They’re pedophiles. They hurt kids.”

Mr Pierce says the man shouted back: “That’s not a family. You’re groomers. You’re pedophiles.” (Source)

 

[Lisa]

You know what’s strange? Weird acronym people who think they are normal.

They are not.

The fact that LGBTQ arent the majority doesn't means that they are not m normal or statistically predictable. Are you also going to claim that being a lefty is wrong or abnormal because most people are right dominant?

 

[Slartibartfast]

This will inevitably lead to acts of stochastic terrorism being committed against LGTBQ people by lunatics on the right. They will act with all the moral high leeway of someone who believes they are attacking a pedophile.

Not only have they been going after LGBTQ people, but they've taken to labeling anyone who isn't anti-LGBTQ as a groomer as well.

so it will be like the 70s and 80s

 

[VySky]

This will inevitably lead to acts of stochastic terrorism being committed against LGTBQ people by lunatics on the right. They will act with all the moral high leeway of someone who believes they are attacking a pedophile.

Not only have they been going after LGBTQ people, but they've taken to labeling anyone who isn't anti-LGBTQ as a groomer as well.

Labels are the thing Democrats started. That’s their ace in the hole

 

[Nomad4Ever]

You know what’s strange? Weird acronym people who think they are normal.

They are not.

And? Why does that matter at all?

 

[Fletch]

Wow, you really just went and handed me the easiest burden of proof ever. Here you go. Here is the spokesperson for Ron DeSantis claiming anyone who opposes the bill 'Don't say gay bill' is a groomer.

Here is making some pretty sweeping claims;


Here is the result of this kind of language;

There was no 'dont say gay' bill. That was you libs lying and mischaracterizing what was going on. So you have no grounds to complain when others respond in kind

 

[Fletch]

False online accusations of 'grooming' against LGBTQ people are spiking, experts say

The rising tide of online abuse is challenging as the internet has become an essential place for young people to learn about LGBTQ identities and connect with community members.

www.nbcnews.com

Fueled by right-wing hysteria, righties have settled on false accusations of "groomers" and pedophiles for anyone who's LGBTQ and out of the closet. This canard is nothing new; as far back as the 70s and 80s, teachers who were gay were accused of the very same things. Interesting how straight cis people are not accused of this for making public their own sexual orientation.

In addition to being slanderous, false accusations against LGBTQ people, they cheapen the accusations against actual groomers, who have been given a golden opportunity to play victim when legitimately accused.

You, of all people, whining about people being labelled 'groomers' while you call anyone who disagrees with you a Nazi or a fascist is just too damn funny. Yes, there is trolling going one here alright. And you are the one engaging in it.

 

[Napoleon]

Those people do exist and, given the materials that have surfaced over the last year, I do wonder if they’re infiltrating schools. But the people advocating against the common sense measures in the bill and going to the mat to keep homoerotic materials in school libraries are the minority. Unfortunately, they’re loud and giving the rest of us a bad name.

 

[Fletch]

Those people do exist and, given the materials that have surfaced over the last year, I do wonder if they’re infiltrating schools. But the people advocating against the common sense measures in the bill and going to the mat to keep homoerotic materials in school libraries are the minority. Unfortunately, they’re loud and giving the rest of us a bad name.

Yes. The 'culture war' is being waged by the left, not the right. They just arent honest about it. But they arent honest about anything.

 

[Slartibartfast]

There was no 'dont say gay' bill. That was you libs lying and mischaracterizing what was going on. So you have no grounds to complain when others respond in kind

Exactly, calling people doing their jobs groomers is a mischaracterization.

 

[Schism]

Wow, you really just went and handed me the easiest burden of proof ever. Here you go. Here is the spokesperson for Ron DeSantis claiming anyone who opposes the bill 'Don't say gay bill' is a groomer.

Here is making some pretty sweeping claims;


Here is the result of this kind of language;

NOPE!

This is the OP's claim:

"...righties have settled on false accusations of "groomers" and pedophiles for anyone who's LGBTQ and out of the closet. "

This is a lie and you can't support it either.

 

[Schism]

Exactly, calling people doing their jobs groomers is a mischaracterization.

You've moved the goal posts to fabricate a lie, like the OP tried to do with their claim:

"righties have settled on false accusations of "groomers" and pedophiles for anyone who's LGBTQ and out of the closet"

This is a lie, and the poster knows it - It's bullshit.

 

[Fletch]

Exactly, calling people doing their jobs groomers is a mischaracterization.

But the left saying things like 'dont say gay bill' or calling conservatives Nazis isnt?

 

[Slartibartfast]

You've moved the goal posts to fabricate a lie, like the OP tried to do with their claim:

"righties have settled on false accusations of "groomers" and pedophiles for anyone who's LGBTQ and out of the closet"

This is a lie, and the poster knows it - It's bullshit.

I was just working off of fletch’s concession and agreeing with him about the issue of mischaracterization as it applies to the term “groomer”

 

[Slartibartfast]

But the left saying things like 'dont say gay bill' or calling conservatives Nazis isnt?

I agree that the don’t say gay bill terminology is a misnomer.

Conservatives (not every conservative though) do have a nazi problem from time to time though. The emphasis on evangelical white American identity culture leaves them ideologically vulnerable to those sympathies. Just like liberals can from time to time be open to people like Che (which was more of a thing in the 90s then today though, but things ebb and flow)

 

[Nomad4Ever]

"righties have settled on false accusations of "groomers" and pedophiles for anyone who's LGBTQ and out of the closet"

This is a lie, and the poster knows it - It's bullshit.

I literally cited an article talking about a gay couple on a bus being accused of grooming their child by a passenger just because they are gay.

 

[Schism]

I literally cited an article talking about a gay couple on a bus being accused of grooming their child by a passenger just because they are gay.

You literally just applied a single unconfirmed case (not on video) as being the position of all conservatives.

It's a lie.

 

[Fletch]

I agree that the don’t say gay bill terminology is a misnomer.

Conservatives (not every conservative though) do have a nazi problem from time to time though. The emphasis on evangelical white American identity culture leaves them ideologically vulnerable to those sympathies. Just like liberals can from time to time be open to people like Che (which was more of a thing in the 90s then today though, but things ebb and flow)

Total bullshit. When you guys clean up your language, I will start worrying about whether or not 'groomer' is an appropriate word to describe the left. So for now, it stands.

 

[Rawley]

False online accusations of 'grooming' against LGBTQ people are spiking, experts say

The rising tide of online abuse is challenging as the internet has become an essential place for young people to learn about LGBTQ identities and connect with community members.

www.nbcnews.com

Fueled by right-wing hysteria, righties have settled on false accusations of "groomers" and pedophiles for anyone who's LGBTQ and out of the closet. This canard is nothing new; as far back as the 70s and 80s, teachers who were gay were accused of the very same things. Interesting how straight cis people are not accused of this for making public their own sexual orientation.

In addition to being slanderous, false accusations against LGBTQ people, they cheapen the accusations against actual groomers, who have been given a golden opportunity to play victim when legitimately accused.

Why else would you be lying about what this statute prohibits, unless you are covering up some sketchy shit?