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Cumming from the 2 people who insist that a woman pregnant with a male ZEF is a hermaphrodite, your arguments and opinions aren't very credible.
 
So you admit it infringes on the person in the womb. Thanks!

if you are the person in the "womb", yes.

Are you in there?

If not then I guess your rights are not being violated.
 
if you are the person in the "womb", yes.

Are you in there?

If not then I guess your rights are not being violated.

You're befuddled, aren't you. Take a deep breath...it's good to get your logic straightened out.;)
 
Cumming from the 2 people who insist that a woman pregnant with a male ZEF is a hermaphrodite, your arguments and opinions aren't very credible.

A woman having a penis inside her is not necessarily a hermaphrodite.
 
A woman having a penis inside her is not necessarily a hermaphrodite.

You're the one who said the penis is part of her body. I'm sure Jerry will link you.:lol:

What do you call a woman with a penis as part of her body?
 
How many times do we have to say it? BC fails.

Awesome, did you learn this fact before or after you chose to have sex?



Maybe you would view pregnancy/childbirth as punishment had you ever experienced it.


I am sure I wouldn't. how pitiful an existence.
 
if you are the person in the "womb", yes.

Are you in there?

If not then I guess your rights are not being violated.




but that person who is, well is having thier rights violated when you kill them for your convenience.
 
but that person who is, well is having thier rights violated when you kill them for your convenience.

The rights of the people walking on this planet supersedes the rights of the people yet to come.
 
The rights of the people walking on this planet supersedes the rights of the people yet to come.

who said this is true? the future of this planet is created within those yet to come, without those who are to come our race would go extinct.
 
You're the one who said the penis is part of her body. I'm sure Jerry will link you.:lol:

What do you call a woman with a penis as part of her body?

Pregnant!!!
 
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Only you...and maybe Ten.:doh

Are you your sweater when you reside inside it? I think not.

Your line of reasoning leads to fairly grotesque and incestuous images.
 
Your line of reasoning leads to fairly grotesque and incestuous images.

Only you would find something perverse about a woman birthing a boy child. :2razz:
 
Only you...and maybe Ten.:doh

Are you your sweater when you reside inside it? I think not.

A sweater is not a part of me, nor even attached to me when I wear it. My body does not care if I discard a sweater. A fetus IS attached, and a woman's body recognizes the fetus as a part of her. There is NO analogy that adequately compares pregnancy.
 
A sweater is not a part of me, nor even attached to me when I wear it. My body does not care if I discard a sweater. A fetus IS attached, and a woman's body recognizes the fetus as a part of her. There is NO analogy that adequately compares pregnancy.

And THAT's precisely why your claim that it's "part of the woman's body" is utterly foolish. The biological processes of reproduction are a unique physical state.
 
And THAT's precisely why your claim that it's "part of the woman's body" is utterly foolish. The biological processes of reproduction are a unique physical state.

Said the biology teacher with the PHD? :rofl

another pointless post...

Unique physical state... what does that even mean?

you are restating your views and are making absoulty no point... or any sense with a meaningless post.

Any rights granted to the fetus are secondary because it's existance is secondary to the woman and the uterus it is attached to.
 
Awesome, did you learn this fact before or after you chose to have sex?

More to the point, when are YOU going to learn it?




I am sure I wouldn't. how pitiful an existence.

Oddly enough, many people are SURE of what they would do if faced with an unplanned pregnancy. It's not so odd that many change their minds.....
"The Only Moral Abortion is My Abortion" - When the Anti-Choice Choose
"Abortion is a highly personal decision that many women are sure they'll never have to think about until they're suddenly faced with an unexpected pregnancy. But this can happen to anyone, including women who are strongly anti-choice. So what does an anti-choice woman do when she experiences an unwanted pregnancy herself? Often, she will grin and bear it, so to speak, but frequently, she opts for the solution she would deny to other women -- abortion. "
 
I guess OKG has no response to this. :roll:

Have you even raised a single child? Have you ever been a parent in your entire life?
Get back to us when you know what the hell you're talking about.

:roll:
 
Have you even raised a single child? Have you ever been a parent in your entire life?
Get back to us when you know what the hell you're talking about.

:roll:





WAAAAHH WAAAAHHH!!! LIFE IS SO TOUGH POOR ME!



You know my guess is that its tougher on the child you kill in your womb because you found it inconvenient.... :2wave:



What does killing a life in the womb have to do with "parenting skills"? :shock::shock:
 
More to the point, when are YOU going to learn it?


Why? I was keenly aware and was prepared to accept responsibility for my actions.

You and others do not.




Oddly enough, many people are SURE of what they would do if faced with an unplanned pregnancy. It's not so odd that many change their minds.....
"The Only Moral Abortion is My Abortion" - When the Anti-Choice Choose
"Abortion is a highly personal decision that many women are sure they'll never have to think about until they're suddenly faced with an unexpected pregnancy. But this can happen to anyone, including women who are strongly anti-choice. So what does an anti-choice woman do when she experiences an unwanted pregnancy herself? Often, she will grin and bear it, so to speak, but frequently, she opts for the solution she would deny to other women -- abortion. "



Wait so you are going to use a highly biased site for anecdotal to attack other no named women who are quantifiably non existant to prove what exactly?

Oh wait, this was a duck to change the reality of the conversation. :2wave:
 
WAAAAHH WAAAAHHH!!! LIFE IS SO TOUGH POOR ME!

Gosh. I'm sorry. You poor thing.
I hope things get better for you in the coming year.



You know my guess is that its tougher on the child you kill in your womb because you found it inconvenient.... :2wave:
Your guess, then, would be grossly incorrect.

What does killing a life in the womb have to do with "parenting skills"? :shock::shock:

One knows, once one has children, how far one's resources will go.
You'll see.
Whether you have one, two, three, four, or more children, there will come a point that you will realize, "I cannot possibly bring another child into this without compromising the quality of life of all these other people I am responsible for."
At that point, you will terminate any future pregnancy before it reaches fruition, unless and until such time as your situation changes and you find yourself once again with additional resources.

One's children come first.

I would not expect a nonparent to comprehend this.
 
Here is an idea. How about all those that are against abortion don’t commit abortion, and those that do, go ahead.

Pretty much summed up my opinion on Abortion.
I personally will never resort to Abortion but i don't care if someone else does. Not my womb and never will be, so i have no right to dictate to someone else.
 
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