Leftie: "Is Trump's popularity a result of the Left's alienation of Conserv[W:91]

[Fletch]

Re: Leftie: "Is Trump's popularity a result of the Left's alienation of Conservatives

Give it your best shot....

Ok. Trump is popular because he has the best political message of the campaign. Sanders is a close second. 'Make America Great Again' is the best campaign slogan out there as is the basic message behind it: Secure the boarders, bring back jobs, defeat ISIS, make trade deals that benefit the US, fight entrenched political interests, anti-Washington. That is a winning formula and Trump has stumbled his way right into it. That said, Trump is possibly the worst messenger imaginable. He is such an ass and says such absurd things that his negatives are through the roof. People like the message and tend to overlook the madness that is the man. The majority, however, seem to be reaching the conclusion that the man is just not presidential material despite how much they like the message. Hows that?

 

[SenorXm/Sirius]

Re: Leftie: "Is Trump's popularity a result of the Left's alienation of Conservatives

Spoken like a true, know-nothing liberal. But thanks for regurgitating the MSNBC narrative for us. I could explain to you why Trump is popular with not only many n the right, but many on the left. But what would be the point?

I'm not a liberal. I'm probably more of a FISCAL conservative then you ever were, or are.

I was a Republican back when they weren't foaming at the mouth haters, like you. I post my opinion, you come back with I'm a know nothing, and to others about beddy-bye time, etc. In other words nothing but a typical modern day Republican insults with anyone who disagrees with you.

People like you are what's tearing the GOP apart, and putting Trump in the lead of YOUR party.

Enjoy 8 years of Hillary.

 

[SenorXm/Sirius]

Re: Leftie: "Is Trump's popularity a result of the Left's alienation of Conservatives

I think my personal position is more unique than most. I wouldn't consider myself previously aligned with either republicans or democrats though I have great respect for the constitution.

Previously I would have considered myself more of a libertarian bordering on anarchist with great disdain for the system, especially the left, I don't trust any of them really.

I think the fed gov is way overstepping its original intentions and that governance should much more so be left up to the states on as local of a level as possible. Even the fed laws I agree with I don't think it is their place to be doing so.
I think that the way I think about that is a lost cause so it doesn't really matter..

In comes Trump. I think he is the guy to bust corruption and bureaucratic bull**** on all fronts and he really sticks it to the leftists. I can't stand the whiny, intolerant, "politically correct", constitution abusing, big fed gov proponent, lying, double standarded, leftists.. They are going to destroy us all..

They have everyone afraid to speak the truth for feer of hurting someones feelings.. Except Trump..
Trump is the left's kryptonite, just look at them all running around like chickens with there heads cut off terrified of chalk. I love it..

It is funny that you keep saying Trump is driving the left crazy, but so far the right and the GOP is the ones taking shot after shot at him.

The Dems have barely said anything about him. And why should they? It's the Republicans who are beating each other up right now. The Dems are just sitting back, waiting, waiting, waiting...

 

[Eric7216]

Re: Leftie: "Is Trump's popularity a result of the Left's alienation of Conservatives

A little strong to talk about the Left's alienation of conservatives. Generally conservatives seem rather secure and content for the most part. Perhaps looking either bemused or a little worried about how some people are falling for false gods of social justice and equality but most of them understand this is just a phase. A society advances at its own pace. Push it to fast and you have a reaction and the course gets re-established. Society advances when the majority are ready for the advance and will not be pushed by overly enthusiastic minorities.

 

[Deuce]

Re: Leftie: "Is Trump's popularity a result of the Left's alienation of Conservatives

I think my personal position is more unique than most. I wouldn't consider myself previously aligned with either republicans or democrats though I have great respect for the constitution.

Previously I would have considered myself more of a libertarian bordering on anarchist with great disdain for the system, especially the left, I don't trust any of them really.

I think the fed gov is way overstepping its original intentions and that governance should much more so be left up to the states on as local of a level as possible. Even the fed laws I agree with I don't think it is their place to be doing so.
I think that the way I think about that is a lost cause so it doesn't really matter..

In comes Trump. I think he is the guy to bust corruption and bureaucratic bull**** on all fronts and he really sticks it to the leftists. I can't stand the whiny, intolerant, "politically correct", constitution abusing, big fed gov proponent, lying, double standarded, leftists.. They are going to destroy us all..

They have everyone afraid to speak the truth for feer of hurting someones feelings.. Except Trump..
Trump is the left's kryptonite, just look at them all running around like chickens with there heads cut off terrified of chalk. I love it..

If your beliefs are hurtful to someone, have you considered the possibility that you're just an asshole? Why do you assume the problem is with the other person?

 

[Kurmugeon]

Re: Leftie: "Is Trump's popularity a result of the Left's alienation of Conservatives

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I don't think that the US criminal justice system would abide by this sort of response to those crimes.
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And I don't want to get to the point of the police not arresting and presenting to the court system for a trial, but I believe that for repeat offenders of our borders, in the case where human trafficking, drug smuggling, arms smuggling, or material support for Terrorism are involved, the death penalty should be an option available to judges and juries.

The people abused and killed by those activities have rights which are currently being ignored in preference to the criminal. By the time of a third conviction, there is little doubt about guilt, and the rights of their future victims, should they not be permanently stopped, should be weighed as much more important than clemency to a habitual offender.

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[Orly?]

Re: Leftie: "Is Trump's popularity a result of the Left's alienation of Conservatives

It is funny that you keep saying Trump is driving the left crazy, but so far the right and the GOP is the ones taking shot after shot at him.

The Dems have barely said anything about him. And why should they? It's the Republicans who are beating each other up right now. The Dems are just sitting back, waiting, waiting, waiting...

It's more than just the government, it's the corrupt propaganda spewing media too, and the people they have successfully brainwashed..

 

[Orly?]

Re: Leftie: "Is Trump's popularity a result of the Left's alienation of Conservatives

If your beliefs are hurtful to someone, have you considered the possibility that you're just an asshole? Why do you assume the problem is with the other person?

Anyone that is "harmed" by the truth deserves to be "harmed" by words if those words "harm" them.. Let them go cry about it..
If something I say burns your ass you need to figure out why your ass is so flammable..

If advocating unsugarcoated truth makes me an asshole then so be it..

 

[Kobie]

Re: Leftie: "Is Trump's popularity a result of the Left's alienation of Conservatives

I think my personal position is more unique than most. I wouldn't consider myself previously aligned with either republicans or democrats though I have great respect for the constitution.

Previously I would have considered myself more of a libertarian bordering on anarchist with great disdain for the system, especially the left, I don't trust any of them really.

I think the fed gov is way overstepping its original intentions and that governance should much more so be left up to the states on as local of a level as possible. Even the fed laws I agree with I don't think it is their place to be doing so.
I think that the way I think about that is a lost cause so it doesn't really matter..

In comes Trump. I think he is the guy to bust corruption and bureaucratic bull**** on all fronts and he really sticks it to the leftists. I can't stand the whiny, intolerant, "politically correct", constitution abusing, big fed gov proponent, lying, double standarded, leftists.. They are going to destroy us all..

They have everyone afraid to speak the truth for feer of hurting someones feelings.. Except Trump..
Trump is the left's kryptonite, just look at them all running around like chickens with there heads cut off terrified of chalk. I love it..

All "leftists" are freaking out over chalk? Seriously?

 

[JumpinJack]

Re: Leftie: "Is Trump's popularity a result of the Left's alienation of Conservatives

People aren't voting for Trump because they are mad at republicans.
People are voting for Trump because the entirety of government seems inept and they are particularly furious with the liberal PC nonsense pussification of America that Trump just crushes whenever it gets in his way.

That's my take on it atleast..

Your post is an example of more misogynistic thinking and language. There is nothing wrong with being female. You are sounding like Trump.

Speaking of which...Trump cannot win. The majority of women in the country won't vote for him. So that's that. A Republican who doesn't have a clear lead/win over the opposition cannot win without a strong majority vote of women.

 

[Orly?]

Re: Leftie: "Is Trump's popularity a result of the Left's alienation of Conservatives

Your post is an example of more misogynistic thinking and language. There is nothing wrong with being female. You are sounding like Trump.

Speaking of which...Trump cannot win. The majority of women in the country won't vote for him. So that's that. A Republican who doesn't have a clear lead/win over the opposition cannot win without a strong majority vote of women.

So now I'm "misogynistic" too..
Liberal women need to grow up and get some guts just as well as the men do, your votes count just as much.
It isn't my fault that words to describe toughness vs meekness are synonymous with gender..

 

[JumpinJack]

Re: Leftie: "Is Trump's popularity a result of the Left's alienation of Conservatives

I think my personal position is more unique than most. I wouldn't consider myself previously aligned with either republicans or democrats though I have great respect for the constitution.

Previously I would have considered myself more of a libertarian bordering on anarchist with great disdain for the system, especially the left, I don't trust any of them really.

I think the fed gov is way overstepping its original intentions and that governance should much more so be left up to the states on as local of a level as possible. Even the fed laws I agree with I don't think it is their place to be doing so.
I think that the way I think about that is a lost cause so it doesn't really matter..

In comes Trump. I think he is the guy to bust corruption and bureaucratic bull**** on all fronts and he really sticks it to the leftists. I can't stand the whiny, intolerant, "politically correct", constitution abusing, big fed gov proponent, lying, double standarded, leftists.. They are going to destroy us all..

They have everyone afraid to speak the truth for feer of hurting someones feelings.. Except Trump..
Trump is the left's kryptonite, just look at them all running around like chickens with there heads cut off terrified of chalk. I love it..

I don't know what world you're living in, but the left is not scared of Trump, that I can tell. Who's going to vote for him besides his current supporters (who are violent, angry people who are mainly white males), older white males, and retirees?

Here's a bit of interesting news as a reality check. If you're stuck in Trump-supporter mode, it probably won't get through, but this is the Trump that most others in the country know. Article from The Washington Post, not exactly a liberal bastion:

So it is with pleasure that we can present Priebus with a bit of good news. When the pollsters Selzer & Co. recently surveyed Americans for Bloomberg, they sought opinions on a number of people and organizations. And the Republican Party was not the least popular! I mean, you may have guessed that, since obviously the party would still be more popular than Congress, which basically everyone hates.* But there is someone even less popular than the Republican Party and less popular than Congress. That person is Donald Trump.

The image shows that the Democratic Party is waaaaaay at the top, in terms of favorability. Do you see the ONLY Republican who comes close to that? The only Republican to score higher than Hillary Clinton? It's Paul Ryan. Do you see who is at the very bottom? That's Trump. More unpopular than Congress, even. And you know what people think of Congress.

That picture tells a story. The lefties are not afraid of Trump in the least. You need to read some liberal articles and forums to get a real picture of what the left thinks. If you want a clear picture, that is. But politics requires rose colored glasses of supporters.

Paul Ryan is the only chance the Republicans have of winning the election. I wouldn't be surprised if there are a lot of brains working on how to get him to be the nominee. Some had wanted him to run, but he declined. Forbes has wondered lately, in articles, if he's had a change of heart, because he has started being more public and giving more speeches....a sign, it speculated. But who knows.

 

[Henrin]

Re: Leftie: "Is Trump's popularity a result of the Left's alienation of Conservatives

Your post is an example of more misogynistic thinking and language. There is nothing wrong with being female. You are sounding like Trump.

Speaking of which...Trump cannot win. The majority of women in the country won't vote for him. So that's that. A Republican who doesn't have a clear lead/win over the opposition cannot win without a strong majority vote of women.

What in the hell are you talking about? Where did he even refer to women? You know it's women like you that make men not give a **** about being called a sexist. If all you're going to do is throw our that label for no good reason then expect your targets to disregard it after a while.

 

[JumpinJack]

Re: Leftie: "Is Trump's popularity a result of the Left's alienation of Conservatives

So now I'm "misogynistic" too..
Liberal women need to grow up and get some guts just as well as the men do, your votes count just as much.
It isn't my fault that words to describe toughness vs meekness are synonymous with gender..

Your language denigrating female anatomy is misogynistic and offensive, yes. Implication being that being female is a bad thing. Again, misogynistic.

Use your own anatomy to denigrate. I suspect you would find that too offensive, though.

 

[Hawkeye10]

Re: Leftie: "Is Trump's popularity a result of the Left's alienation of Conservatives

I think it is Rush who says that Washington R's rolled over and allowed the Left to control the Language, and he who controls the language controls the debate, so R's always lose. This is why Trump went hard early against PC language controls. But that does not make the liberals the cause of the problem, conservatives never were forced to cave in, they just did. Just as COnservatives refused to fight to be part of the feminists movement letting the left take it over in the early 90's, just as conservatives failed to fight to be an equal partner in academia.

Trump is here for many different reasons depending on the slant vision being practiced, one of them is that R's have way to often capitulated to the efforts to control them by the left. All too often R's and conservatives have failed to enter the battlefield, they have been shut down by the lefts shame up manipulation.

They are weak, they have failed, and now they need to die for their crimes against the people.

That is why the people are out to put Trump in the POTUS chair, that is why the people who run the party have lost the people. They think they can push out $150+ million in anti Trump propaganda and keep him out of the Oval Office.

Call me skeptical.

 

[Henrin]

Re: Leftie: "Is Trump's popularity a result of the Left's alienation of Conservatives

Your language denigrating female anatomy is misogynistic and offensive, yes. Implication being that being female is a bad thing. Again, misogynistic.

Use your own anatomy to denigrate. I suspect you would find that too offensive, though.

:roll: Men have calling each other ******s forever and it's not sexist in the slightest. Take your feminist gibberish somewhere else.

 

[Hawkeye10]

Re: Leftie: "Is Trump's popularity a result of the Left's alienation of Conservatives

:roll: Men have calling each other ******s forever and it's not sexist in the slightest.

That makes you a dinosaur, this is no longer allowed, the language police informed you of this some time ago.

 

[JumpinJack]

Re: Leftie: "Is Trump's popularity a result of the Left's alienation of Conservatives

So now I'm "misogynistic" too..
Liberal women need to grow up and get some guts just as well as the men do, your votes count just as much.
It isn't my fault that words to describe toughness vs meekness are synonymous with gender..

You're wrong about female votes. They count more. A Republican can't win the presidency without the female vote, unless he far and away has a big lead, anyway. If he doesn't, he needs the woman vote. Which Trump does not have. Because Trump is misogynistic, undignified, not presidential, not classy, a philanderer, and he has a bimbo nude model for an arm candy wife (until the next wife comes along). He's toast. And the GOP knows it.

Losing the female vote is what cost "#bindersfullofwomen Romney the election.

And yes, it's your choice what words you use. You rightwing men need to man up and be accountable for your actions and words.

 

[Orly?]

Re: Leftie: "Is Trump's popularity a result of the Left's alienation of Conservatives

Your language denigrating female anatomy is misogynistic and offensive, yes. Implication being that being female is a bad thing. Again, misogynistic.

Use your own anatomy to denigrate. I suspect you would find that too offensive, though.

Orly?
Fine then.. Grow a pair, get some balls, tener cojones..

I'm supposed to be offended by that? LOL Serious?

You seriously suspect that I would be offended by that?

Your suspector is broken..

 

[Henrin]

Re: Leftie: "Is Trump's popularity a result of the Left's alienation of Conservatives

That makes you a dinosaur, this is no longer allowed, the language police informed you of this some time ago.

Frankly with some of the stupid **** going on today I welcome being a dinosaur.

 

[Hawkeye10]

Re: Leftie: "Is Trump's popularity a result of the Left's alienation of Conservatives

Frankly with some of the stupid **** going on today I welcome being a dinosaur.

You and a lot of others. Trump is 30 years out of date and look how popular he is! Fashion always comes back around though doesn't it (except for bell bottom jeans), a fact that the "progressives" on the Left will never understand, because they are programmed to reject the idea out of hand.

 

[Orly?]

Re: Leftie: "Is Trump's popularity a result of the Left's alienation of Conservatives

You're wrong about female votes. They count more. A Republican can't win the presidency without the female vote, unless he far and away has a big lead, anyway. If he doesn't, he needs the woman vote. Which Trump does not have. Because Trump is misogynistic, undignified, not presidential, not classy, a philanderer, and he has a bimbo nude model for an arm candy wife (until the next wife comes along). He's toast. And the GOP knows it.

Losing the female vote is what cost "#bindersfullofwomen Romney the election.

And yes, it's your choice what words you use. You rightwing men need to man up and be accountable for your actions and words.

So now your superior..

How bout this.. YOU are a prime example of the liberal enemy I have been describing in this thread..

 

[JumpinJack]

Re: Leftie: "Is Trump's popularity a result of the Left's alienation of Conservatives

:roll: Men have calling each other ******s forever and it's not sexist in the slightest. Take your feminist gibberish somewhere else.

Of course it's sexist. It's just not sexist to you, because it doesn't denigrate you.

Take your rightwingnut extremist language elsewhere. It's not fit for political discussion. "Man up" and learn to speak without denigrating other people. You went to school. You learned in elementary school how to make a point without resorting to hokey slang and insults. That's for the schoolyard.

 

[Hawkeye10]

Re: Leftie: "Is Trump's popularity a result of the Left's alienation of Conservatives

Of course it's sexist. It's just not sexist to you, because it doesn't denigrate you.

Take your rightwingnut extremist language elsewhere. It's not fit for political discussion. "Man up" and learn to speak without denigrating other people. You went to school. You learned in elementary school how to make a point without resorting to hokey slang and insults. That's for the schoolyard.

Pretty soon we are all going to be like those sorry fvck boys in elementary school, forced by power to imitate girls. Men cant be men anymore, because as we all know......................"MEN SUCK!"

 

[Orly?]

Re: Leftie: "Is Trump's popularity a result of the Left's alienation of Conservatives

You're wrong about female votes. They count more. A Republican can't win the presidency without the female vote, unless he far and away has a big lead, anyway. If he doesn't, he needs the woman vote. Which Trump does not have. Because Trump is misogynistic, undignified, not presidential, not classy, a philanderer, and he has a bimbo nude model for an arm candy wife (until the next wife comes along). He's toast. And the GOP knows it.

Losing the female vote is what cost "#bindersfullofwomen Romney the election.

And yes, it's your choice what words you use. You rightwing men need to man up and be accountable for your actions and words.

"Man up"

OMG I'm offended now.. Time to go cry..

You hateful misandrist..