lease infringes on constitutional rights

[Goshin]

Hm. I really think in most cases, this is going to depend on what State law says on the matter. Lease issues do vary from state to state.

 

[RightinNYC]

It's not his residence if he doesn't live there

It's his property, but his rights end where mine begin: at the door.

Just as I can store a gun in my car while that car is on my employer's parking lot :2razz:

Maybe under your state's law or employer's rules, but you have no "right" to do so.

 

[Jerry]

Maybe under your state's law or employer's rules, but you have no "right" to do so.

Stop me :2wave:

 

[RightinNYC]

Stop me :2wave:

Your employer can fire your ass. I think that would constitute "stopping you."

 

[Jerry]

Your employer can fire your ass. I think that would constitute "stopping you."

Only if they found out, and then only if they were anti-gun, and then it's to late because I already did it :2razz:

 

[FlappyTheKinkajou]

Only if they found out, and then only if they were anti-gun, and then it's to late because I already did it :2razz:

You are speaking with enough hypothetical language that I know that the threat of firing has stopped you already.

 

[Jerry]

You are speaking with enough hypothetical language that I know that the threat of firing has stopped you already.

My tool belt stopped me, not some threat :2wave:

 

[FlappyTheKinkajou]

My tool belt stopped me, not some threat :2wave:

Come on, you are a smart guy. Do you expect me to believe a piece of material stopped you from achieving your objectives?

 

[Jerry]

Come on, you are a smart guy. Do you expect me to believe a piece of material stopped you from achieving your objectives?

Yup.



..............

 

[SpotsCat]

Hm. I really think in most cases, this is going to depend on what State law says on the matter. Lease issues do vary from state to state.

Right. And since rsay33 (the OP) lives in Kentucky, I posted the applicable Kentucky statute. There is no specific statue in Kentucky that prohibits a landlord from having a "no firearms allowed" clause in the lease.

But, I'm not a lawyer. That's why I said the best thing for him to do is to call the NRA.

 

[Ethereal]

lease infringes on constitutional rights

I would beg to differ. An individual may impose preconditions upon the use of their property; that is their right.

 

[Jerry]

I would beg to differ. An individual may impose preconditions upon the use of their property; that is their right.

You have no right to impose such "preconditions" on my person, that's where your property rights end.

 

[FlappyTheKinkajou]

You have no right to impose such "preconditions" on my person, that's where your property rights end.

And you have no right to live on my property.

 

[Jerry]

And you have no right to live on my property.

I never asserted one :2wave:

 

[RightinNYC]

I would beg to differ. An individual may impose preconditions upon the use of their property; that is their right.

You have no right to impose such "preconditions" on my person, that's where your property rights end.

And you have no right to live on my property.

I never asserted one :2wave:

Sounds like that's exactly what you did, unless you're just being pedantic and arguing that you didn't assert a right to live on FTK's specific property.

My property rights do not "end" when I tell you what you can and can't do on my property.

 

[FlappyTheKinkajou]

I never asserted one :2wave:

The validity of my statement does not rely on the intent behind your actions.

 

[Jerry]

Sounds like that's exactly what you did, unless you're just being pedantic and arguing that you didn't assert a right to live on FTK's specific property.

My property rights do not "end" when I tell you what you can and can't do on my property.

You never had any such nebulous authority to dictate just any and everything you feel like. It never existed. We can start with tenant's rights. For example, you can't state in your lease that you can walk in just whenever, because that' violates my right to personal privacy while on your property and is thus against the law. Even if I sign the agreement that stipulation is void.

That's proof of concept and negates your argument.

 

[Jerry]

The validity of my statement does not rely on the intent behind your actions.

Wow I have no idea what you're talking about :2wave:

 

[FlappyTheKinkajou]

You never had any such nebulous authority to dictate just any and everything you feel like. It never existed. We can start with tenant's rights. For example, you can't state in your lease that you can walk in just whenever, because that' violates my right to personal privacy while on your property and is thus against the law. Even if I sign the agreement that stipulation is void.

Constitutionally, it has and does exist for the topic of this thread.

 

[FlappyTheKinkajou]

Wow I have no idea what you're talking about :2wave:

Would you like to know what I am talking about?

 

[Jerry]

Constitutionally, it has and does exist for the topic of this thread.

Yeah, it does

 

[Ethereal]

You have no right to impose such "preconditions" on my person...

Then you may not live on my property. See how that works?

that's where your property rights end.

Nope. That's where I tell you to get the f*ck off my property.

 

[Jerry]

Would you like to know what I am talking about?

Not really.

 

[FlappyTheKinkajou]

Not really.

Why not, Jerry?

 

[Jerry]

Then you may not live on my property. See how that works?

I've always understood how that works, so...wtf are you talking about?

Nope. That's where I tell you to get the f*ck off my property.

That's when I put your own lease in your face and tell you to shove it. You're obligated too. Take me to court biache' :lol: