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Laura Loomer laid low by COVID

Take that horse medicine. Laura. I've heard the more you take the better your chances are!
I herd if you follow your doctor's prescriptions and take the medicine early in your infection it will help.
 
"That's my point."

No it wasn't.

"One should mind his own business and not presume to dictate posting rules."

Isn't that what you just did? OK, I'll ask you a specific question "Please provide a link to the official document that you "merely reworded". Thanks in advance.

"I have no idea what you're asking for?"

That much is obvious.
Now you're telling me what my point was? I can't make this any simpler than I already have.

Here's what a 5 minute search turned up
 
I herd if you follow your doctor's prescriptions and take the medicine early in your infection it will help.
Was that typo on purpose?
 
as far as I know, she hasn't even gone to the hosptial

See, people like Laura Loomer are most likely secretly vaccinated while still spreading an anti-vaxx gospel.
Of course I could be dead wrong, and maybe truly evil people really do live forever in this world.
 
See, people like Laura Loomer are most likely secretly vaccinated while still spreading an anti-vaxx gospel.
Of course I could be dead wrong, and maybe truly evil people really do live forever in this world.
She would not have gone from 'it's no worse than some bad fajitas' to 'I am in so much pain, pray for me' if that was true.
 
Far-right anti-vaxxer (and recent candidate to represent Florida in the House) Laura Loomer is asking for prayers after contracting COVID:


Last year, Loomer expressed a wish that she could catch COVID to show everyone that it was no big deal. She wrote on Parler in December 2020: “I hope I get COVID just so I can prove to people I’ve had bouts of food poisoning that are more serious and life threatening than a hyped up virus. Have you ever eaten bad fajitas? That will kill you faster than COVID.”

She got her wish:

“Just pray for me please,” she wrote. “Can’t even begin to explain how brutal the body aches and nausea that come with COVID are. I am in so much pain.”

She reports she is now on a regimen of Hydroxychloroquine and Regeneron, among other meds/supplements. Remains adamant that she will never take a COVID vaccine, says the government "doesn't want you to know what it does."
Wait....she asked for this and is now complaining?
 
I mean, when you're so far right and obnoxious you get kicked out of a CPAC convention...
And yet this is what gets these politicians traction/security within the party - appealing to the fringe that everyone else is running scared against.

Is it calculated careerism? Sincere belief? Doesn't really matter since the country is worse off for it either way, particularly when it concerns public health.
 
Florida’s Republicans were unfazed by unhinged pro-Trump candidate Laura Loomer (shown here in her former Twitter profile photo,) writes Sun Sentinel columnist Fred Grimm. And it gets worse.
 
Depends on age and health status, of course - those are the numbers of those who are DIAGNOSED with COVID, e.g. the case fatality rate. And, frequently include those that "die with covid" as well as those that "die because of covid". I read something a few weeks ago that said those that die of COVID with no comorbidities comprise at .2% of cases.
That might be because "COVID" doesn't kill anyone. Just like "cancer" doesn't kill you. Cancer and COVID damage a critical organ or organs and it's that damage, which is listed on the death certificate, that actually kills someone. So COVID will be the UCOD, the thing that started the train rolling toward death, and then the death certificate lists what actually killed them - liver failure, lungs, stroke, heart attack, whatever.
 
That might be because "COVID" doesn't kill anyone. Just like "cancer" doesn't kill you. Cancer and COVID damage a critical organ or organs and it's that damage, which is listed on the death certificate, that actually kills someone. So COVID will be the UCOD, the thing that started the train rolling toward death, and then the death certificate lists what actually killed them - liver failure, lungs, stroke, heart attack, whatever.
Nice try, but nope.
 
Nice try, but nope.
Here's a table from CDC of 'Comorbidities.'


Comorbidities and other conditions​

Table 3 shows the types of health conditions and contributing causes mentioned in conjunction with deaths involving coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19). The number of deaths that mention one or more of the conditions indicated is shown for all deaths involving COVID-19 and by age groups. For over 5% of these deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned on the death certificate. For deaths with conditions or causes in addition to COVID-19, on average, there were 4.0 additional conditions or causes per death. For data on deaths involving COVID-19 by time-period, jurisdiction, and other health conditions

See for example, "respiratory failure" and "respiratory arrest" and "cardiac arrest" and "cardiac failure." Those are not pre-existing conditions, but how COVID kills someone. If this is what you're citing, the only death certificates with nothing else listed on this table or an expanded table are incorrect, because "COVID" is not a cause of death, it's what COVID did to you that causes death. What COVID does is cause one or more organs to fail, and it's THAT which is deadly. Not "COVID." As we all know, 10s of millions got "COVID" and didn't die.

A big one on the list is pneumonia, which is generally a CONSEQUENCE of COVID (and influenza). You get sick with COVID then it's the pneumonia that you contract while sick that kills you, and then pneumonia damages your lungs, fill with fluid, they're unable to absorb oxygen, respiratory failure, and it's that which kills you, etc......

If you disagree, you can argue the point if you want, but I think you're misreading the data. And "nope" isn't a rebuttal.
 
Here's a table from CDC of 'Comorbidities.'




See for example, "respiratory failure" and "respiratory arrest" and "cardiac arrest" and "cardiac failure." Those are not pre-existing conditions, but how COVID kills someone. If this is what you're citing, the only death certificates with nothing else listed on this table or an expanded table are incorrect, because "COVID" is not a cause of death, it's what COVID did to you that causes death. What COVID does is cause one or more organs to fail, and it's THAT which is deadly. Not "COVID." As we all know, 10s of millions got "COVID" and didn't die.

A big one on the list is pneumonia, which is generally a CONSEQUENCE of COVID (and influenza). You get sick with COVID then it's the pneumonia that you contract while sick that kills you, and then pneumonia damages your lungs, fill with fluid, they're unable to absorb oxygen, respiratory failure, and it's that which kills you, etc......

If you disagree, you can argue the point if you want, but I think you're misreading the data. And "nope" isn't a rebuttal.
I posted this a couple of days ago. Thanks anyway.
 
Here's a table from CDC of 'Comorbidities.'




See for example, "respiratory failure" and "respiratory arrest" and "cardiac arrest" and "cardiac failure." Those are not pre-existing conditions, but how COVID kills someone. If this is what you're citing, the only death certificates with nothing else listed on this table or an expanded table are incorrect, because "COVID" is not a cause of death, it's what COVID did to you that causes death. What COVID does is cause one or more organs to fail, and it's THAT which is deadly. Not "COVID." As we all know, 10s of millions got "COVID" and didn't die.

A big one on the list is pneumonia, which is generally a CONSEQUENCE of COVID (and influenza). You get sick with COVID then it's the pneumonia that you contract while sick that kills you, and then pneumonia damages your lungs, fill with fluid, they're unable to absorb oxygen, respiratory failure, and it's that which kills you, etc......

If you disagree, you can argue the point if you want, but I think you're misreading the data. And "nope" isn't a rebuttal.

<SARC>

You are absolutely correct.

There has not been a single person who has COVID-19 who died whilst their heart was still beating - therefore there hasn't been a single death from COVID-19 because

ALL OF THOSE SO-CALLED "COVID DEATHS" HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN HEART FAILURE DEATHS.

<SARC>
 
I posted this a couple of days ago. Thanks anyway.
OK, so you don't understand the data. But by all means, show us your source so we can confirm it. Should be fun.
 
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