Latino Drivers Boycotting Florida Over Immigration Laws

[jakiejakester]

Oh dood...theres no hiding the fact that I loathe leftist pieces of shit and the destruction they have done to the country. What is telling is you are damaged because i point out the facts...and not the damage your party rats have done.

you dont interest me...at all.

Maybe in a prior life you were an ostrich? Maybe you're just one of those posters here who bluster and spew what read as hate-filled conspiracy theories and in real life you're not always angry like your posts read - always? Do you consider yourself a bully? Everyone has encountered bullies in the real world and almost always they're sad, pathetic people who are so insecure they have to bully others to make themselves feel better...you know the type, i.e. Trump? Jim Jordan? Matt Gaetz, MTG et al? They're also the one who hate people who are different than they are the most.

 

[RealityNow]

Hmm… was that based on race?

you figure it out

 

[RealityNow]

because it was not race related, Get it?!

You probably need to think more, the Political and Racial Divisiveness Trump Promoted is very much entwined into the Covid and Vaccine Deniers, 9X.x% of those Trucker were white men and woman.

 

[VanceMack]

Maybe in a prior life you were an ostrich? Maybe you're just one of those posters here who bluster and spew what read as hate-filled conspiracy theories and in real life you're not always angry like your posts read - always? Do you consider yourself a bully? Everyone has encountered bullies in the real world and almost always they're sad, pathetic people who are so insecure they have to bully others to make themselves feel better...you know the type, i.e. Trump? Jim Jordan? Matt Gaetz, MTG et al? They're also the one who hate people who are different than they are the most.

You labelled me a racist...and then cry like Trump grabbed your *****.

Deal with the facts...deal with the problem...and stop concerning yourself with me...because I dont have time for people like you.

 

[ClaraD]

I can paint my own bedroom.

perhaps like a 5 year old. Can you also repair your own termite damage? Roof your own home? Install an electrical panel? Repair fire damage? Install a wood floor or ceramic tile? That roof just started costing you $50,000....and it isn't just the labor....those materials went up as well.

 

[ttwtt78640]

perhaps like a 5 year old. Can you also repair your own termite damage? Roof your own home? Install an electrical panel? Repair fire damage? Install a wood floor or ceramic tile? That roof just started costing you $50,000....and it isn't just the labor....those materials went up as well.

Hmm… let’s say that $50K roof job bill includes $20K in labor costs. If that roof job’s labor took three workers, three (8 hour) days to complete then each worker could be paid $250/hour ($18K total hourly labor).

 

[ClaraD]

Hmm… let’s say that $50K roof job bill includes $20K in labor costs. If that roof job’s labor took three workers, three (8 hour) days to complete then each worker could be paid $250/hour ($18K total hourly labor).

Those labor costs at 100 an hour for the grunt that doesn't know nothing...it would be higher for someone else...you also have forgotten labor costs aren't the only cost there...nor are materials the only cost. So, let's go with your 20k in labor costs....the owner, secretary, accountant also get paid. Also, 25 to 30% comes off the top for taxes. So 15k off the top just for taxes. That takes you to 35k. Then your labor that takes you to 15k, you haven't figured overhead or materials yet. So, what was that about getting rich again?

 

[ttwtt78640]

Those labor costs at 100 an hour for the grunt that doesn't know nothing...it would be higher for someone else...you also have forgotten labor costs aren't the only cost there...nor are materials the only cost. So, let's go with your 20k in labor costs....the owner, secretary, accountant also get paid. Also, 25 to 30% comes off the top for taxes. So 15k off the top just for taxes. That takes you to 35k. Then your labor that takes you to 15k, you haven't figured overhead or materials yet. So, what was that about getting rich again?

Your business doesn’t pay $15K in taxes for doing a $50K roofing job. That $50K is your business’s gross income (from that roofing job). Business income taxes are paid on net income, which is after deducting material and labor costs.

You also aren‘t likely paying your “grunt” labor $100/hour.

 

[ClaraD]

Your business doesn’t pay $15K in taxes for doing a $50K roofing job. That $50K is your business’s gross income.

You don't just pay taxes on yourself....you have to pay taxes on the employees..

 

[ttwtt78640]

You don't just pay taxes on yourself....you have to pay taxes on the employees..

You pay some FICA payroll taxes (on behalf of the employees) at a rate of 7.65%, but nowhere near what you claimed.

 

[poweRob]

They are illegal immigrants that shouldnt be here in the first place...but SINCE the idiot leftists in this country insist one getting them here, they should damn well own the problem those ****ing nitwits created.

If they come here to claim amnesty, then they are not illegal. Because that is the legal process. Just thought you should know.

 

[Plasmaball]

Leftists really angry FLorida is following the nations and state immigration laws. Makes sense...considering leftists have done their level best to **** over the country at every level.

What?

 

[Chillfolks]

I'm pretty sure clothing and safety equipment is part of the job, including vaccines.

Do you deny this? Can I tell my boss earplugs aren't part of my job? Will you picket with me when I get fired?

Vaccines are not PPE good try.

 

[Hypothetical]

So you can complain more about the cost of renting or buying?



So am I correct in assuming you are all for a living wage? You won’t complain about McDonalds paying $15 an hour, right?

mcdonalds should have to pay whatever it takes to get American citizens and legal immigrants to work for them. that is decent capitalism.

 

[ttwtt78640]

mcdonalds should have to pay whatever it takes to get American citizens and legal immigrants to work for them. that is decent capitalism.

Hmm… are you asserting that no American citizens or legal immigrants currently work for McDonalds or other employers offering similar hourly pay?

 

[Michael Cole]

Vaccines are not PPE good try.

You're serious. Funny. I'm pretty sure protection against a deadly virus qualifies as personal protection. Where it serves to protect is totally irrelevant.

"My job is to deliver goods, not to wear steel-toed boots."

Your try was pathetic.

 

[ttwtt78640]

You're serious. Funny. I'm pretty sure protection against a deadly virus qualifies as personal protection. Where it serves to protect is totally irrelevant.

"My job is to deliver goods, not to wear steel-toed boots."

Your try was pathetic.

OK, but does it “qualify” as equipment?

 

[Michael Cole]

OK, but does it “qualify” as equipment?

That's a deflection. The argument is that it isn't required to do the job.

Vaccine requirements are not part of the job, delivering goods is.

Steel-toed boots aren't part of my job, welding pipe is.

 

[Hypothetical]

Hmm… are you asserting that no American citizens or legal immigrants currently work for McDonalds or other employers offering similar hourly pay?

absolutely not... I am contrasting the 2 issues with what is being stated.

So McDonalds seems to have no problem hiring legal immigrants and citizens. Apparently though, according to the resident contractors, Americans and legal immigrants will not work their jobs unless they pay much better. oh well, I'm afraid those are the breaks. that is fair capitalism. We don't just allow loopholes that put citizens and legal immigrants out of work so they can make more profit.

Having said that, this also ranges from a systemic problem with our fiat currency and its tendency to always inflate along with other economic issues... they can talk to the government about that.

 

[Port & Starboard]

I was just over at the Truckers Report website and no talk about boycotts into Florida. A few blowhards are talking about a fuel price strike.

The Tik Tok crowd flamed out again on this one.

But, I'm sure that they will find 10 drivers who will just run their mouths on social media.

The drivers know their asses will be sent back to the nearest terminal to turn in their power units if they play that game.

 

[ttwtt78640]

absolutely not... I am contrasting the 2 issues with what is being stated.

So McDonalds seems to have no problem hiring legal immigrants and citizens. Apparently though, according to the resident contractors, Americans and legal immigrants will not work their jobs unless they pay much better. oh well, I'm afraid those are the breaks. that is fair capitalism. We don't just allow loopholes that put citizens and legal immigrants out of work so they can make more profit.

Having said that, this also ranges from a systemic problem with our fiat currency and its tendency to always inflate along with other economic issues... they an talk to the government about that.

That (bolded above) is made worse by the existence of numerous “safety net” programs. If someone (or a household) requires $X in order to make ends meet then how much (of that $X) comes from a meager paycheck and how is added (or made unnecessary) by “safety net” benefits doesn’t much matter. Since the “safety net” options are reduced for ‘undocumented’ residents, and employing them is fairly unlikely to result in serious repercussions, they are more dependent on their paychecks.

 

[Hypothetical]

That (bolded above) is made worse by the existence of numerous “safety net” programs. If someone (or a household) requires $X in order to make ends meet then how much (of that $X) comes from a meager paycheck and how is added (or made unnecessary) by “safety net” benefits doesn’t much matter. Since the “safety net” options are reduced for ‘undocumented’ residents, and employing them is fairly unlikely to result in serious repercussions, they are more dependent on their paychecks.

ok whoa whoa... lets address the real issue.... why is McDonalds able to get legal workers but not contractors?

its not the safety net that is the problem , its seems more the reluctance to pay for the necessary workforce on the side of the contractors.

if there are now contractors who have taken advantage of the situation and cannot now easily change that, due to using the loophole to make the market artificially low, i'm afraid that is too bad. It still does not mean we should continue to let that happen.

perhaps we need to make a visa system allowance just for that, but the people using it will still have to come in legally.

setting the market using illegal labor to get the price they want is crony capitalism , and the EXACT mindset that the corrupt globalists have that are screwing our country, just on a larger scale.

Their mindset is why we do not produce anything anymore, are dependent on a tyrannical state , people working standard jobs cannot make enough to live anymore and we are in decline.

 

[ttwtt78640]

ok whoa whoa... lets address the real issue.... why is McDonalds able to get legal workers but not contractors?

The work is physically easier, the job site is fixed (reducing wasted windshield time and commuting costs) and performed in a temperature controlled environment. How many ‘rain days’ is a McWorker likely to experience per month?

its not the safety net that is the problem , its seems more the reluctance to pay for the necessary workforce on the side of the contractors.

Nope, many (if not most) “contractors” pay more per hour than McDonalds.

if there are now contractors who have taken advantage of the situation and cannot now easily change that, due to using the loophole to make the market artificially low, i'm afraid that is too bad. It still does not mean we should continue to let that happen.

Agreed, yet gaining support for a federal eVerify mandate with adequate enforcement hasn’t happened.

perhaps we need to make a visa system allowance just for that, but the people using it will still have to come in legally.

That’s not necessary unless you want to help depress US wages.

 

[Chillfolks]

You're serious. Funny . I'm pretty sure protection against a deadly virus qualifies as personal protection. Where it serves to protect is totally irrelevant.

"My job is to deliver goods, not to wear steel-toed boots."

Your try was pathetic.

I’m pretty sure = I’m just pulling shit put my ass. Thanks for playing

 

[Michael Cole]

I’m pretty sure = I’m just pulling shit put my ass. Thanks for playing

Thanks for conceding the argument.

Yes, your argument was most definitely something you pulled out of your ass. I'd say thanks for playing, but it was incredibly boring.

Tell me Chill, is wearing safety boots part of a welder's job? Isn't his job to weld pipe? You know, like a truck driver's job is to deliver goods.