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Las Vegas Neo-Nazi Charged With Plot To Bomb Gay Club, Synagogue

Cuz why not?

Making America Great Again and then Keeping America Great....Again. And other such ignorant stupidity that ignores the fact that unintended consequences always follows extremist rhetoric. Good luck finding any of them to take responsibility though. This would take integrity.
 
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Show me a flyer or advert about removal of the statues or protest against such removal.
Show me ANY publicity at all that you can find.

Here's the flyer almost everyone saw:

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Where are the "very fine people" ???

One of them appears to have been a nursing home employee. From RealClearPolitics:

Lest you have any doubts that good people were in Charlottesville to protest the removal of the Robert E Lee statue, the New York Times confirmed it in a story they published the next day, August 16.

“’Good people can go to Charlottesville,’ said Michelle Piercy, a night shift worker at a Wichita, Kansas retirement home, who drove all night with a conservative group that opposed the planned removal of a statue of the Confederate general Robert E. Lee. After listening to Mr. Trump on Tuesday, she said it was as if he had channeled her and her friends… who had no interest in standing with Nazis or white supremacists…” 'Prager U' Steve Cortes: The Charlottesville Lie | Video | RealClearPolitics
 
How about sticking to the topic, which is not Trump? Or maybe it is because he's to blame for everything.

TDS seems to permeate so many threads. A plane crashes-it is Trump's fault. A US gymnast falls off the balance beam and the US loses a gold medal at the Pan Am Games-its Trump's fault. Some sociopathic nutcase decides to murder a bunch of people-including his own sister-its Trump's fault.
 
One of them appears to have been a nursing home employee. From RealClearPolitics:

Lest you have any doubts that good people were in Charlottesville to protest the removal of the Robert E Lee statue, the New York Times confirmed it in a story they published the next day, August 16.

“’Good people can go to Charlottesville,’ said Michelle Piercy, a night shift worker at a Wichita, Kansas retirement home, who drove all night with a conservative group that opposed the planned removal of a statue of the Confederate general Robert E. Lee. After listening to Mr. Trump on Tuesday, she said it was as if he had channeled her and her friends… who had no interest in standing with Nazis or white supremacists…” 'Prager U' Steve Cortes: The Charlottesville Lie | Video | RealClearPolitics

Dennis Prager is a revisionist.
You might as well link to an Alex Jones story, or Bozo the Clown.
 
In all probability, this man was egged on by FBI agents pretending to be “white supremacists”. The FBI is quite possibly the biggest domestic promoter of terrorism.

Absolutely not. That is straight up paranoia. This guy is a POS who is responsible for his own actions, the POS president definitely does hold some responsibility for his clear support of these ass holes. Period.
 
Glad this scumbag was caught, seems a lot of slime is oozing out from under rocks these days, wonder why that it? :roll:



Las Vegas neo-Nazi charged with plot to bomb gay club, synagogue - ABC News

Why do crazed Democrats like the Pulse nightclub shooter (Clinton supporter) and that guy feel the have to murder LGBTs?

When is the Democratic Party going to be declared a seditious domestic criminal organization and outlawed?!! How many more people have to die before the Party of the Confederacy is permanently eliminated by law?
 
So all those attending the rally who objected to the removal of the statues were white supremacists and/or neo-Nazis? All right-wing militia members are? All of them? And there was absolutely nobody who attended that rally simply in defense of the preservation of history? Not one, eh?
Correct.
 
Hey now, let's show some respect for the Office of the President of the United States, he has stipulated that the correct term is now "very fine people."

So basically the same term you use for sex offenders?
 
No, it's about a planned White Supremacist attack, attacks which have been on the increase. I think the reasons for this attack, and the reason why they are more common, is part of the topic.

White nationalism-fueled violence is on the rise

Trump Defends White-Nationalist Protesters: 'Some Very Fine People'

I believe it is in part because the POTUS publicly defends Neo Nazis and the KKK, as Trump did in Charlottesville when he referred to some as "very fine people", and that this emboldens White Supremacist movements.

Neo-Nazis Praise Trump's Response to Charlottesville: 'He Said He Loves Us All'



IMO, this is right on topic, however, if you disagree, I understand, and will quit discussing how having a POTUS defend them may have emboldened some to plan and commit these acts, feeling it was their patriotic duty.

Good to still you're still fervently pushing that same lie as always.

Knowing full well that he excluded him from his own statement.
 
Trump didn't refer to the neo-Nazis as "fine people." He said there were very fine people on both sides, meaning those with oppositional viewpoints, those trying to protect statues and those trying to tear them down.

Good luck trying to talk any sense into him. I've chased him off more times than I care to count at this point.

I'm just going to wait for him to tuck tail like all the others.
 
The rolleyes indicated Trump, JustHanging got it. Trump has shown some support for these 'fine' people and that's why they've been acting up and feel empowered. Many republicans are also supporting them, even if it's just by their deafening silence, very sad to see the party go this route so extremely since the new administration. I'm sure there's plenty of proof of that on the White Supremacist and Neo-Nazi websites, but I don't frequent those and won't be giving them any clicks or recognition with links.

Great, and now you've been caught lying too.

Didn't think my respect for you could be shaken like this.
 
He said there were some "very fine people" on both sides.

One side was:

1) A rally hosted by White Supremacists.

2) A rally which was well publicized to be a White Supremacist rally.

3) A rally with the stated purpose of uniting White Supremacists from across the USA.

4) A rally where KKK and Neo Nazi flags paraphernalia was common

5) A rally which had a numerous and exclusively White Supremacist speakers, except for the last person who was apparently "neutral", and so not on either "side".

6) A rally where White Supremacists were carrying torches to honor the KKK

7) A rally where White Supremacists were chanting Nazi anti-Jewish slogans to honor the Neo Nazis present.


If you were there, and you were on that "side," you are not a "very fine person", unless you think White Supremacists are "very fine people".

And the lie surfaces again, good job JustHanging.
 
So all those attending the rally who objected to the removal of the statues were white supremacists and/or neo-Nazis? All right-wing militia members are? All of them? And there was absolutely nobody who attended that rally simply in defense of the preservation of history? Not one, eh?

That's right blacks, Asian, Latino, and even mixed raced individuals now are white supremacist. It does' matter that they attended the rally, and were just present to protest having the statue removed.

They're now culpable to what the Unittheright rally was doing.
So I guess that anyone who even remotely shares JustHanging's political views, does something adverse. It means that he shares in that save adversity.

If we're going to be playing by his rules at the very least.

I know a few anti-trumpers in county lockup who were caught for some rather salaciously illegal crap. So I guess that makes make him culpable in their doings, by his rules alone.
 
Short hand for they saw what they wanted to see... give me a ****ing break.

They saw what the media wanted them to see and were told that was all Trump was thinking (talking?) about when he asserted that some people who opposed the statue removal were "fine people". That same media showed a picture of a HS student, in a *gasp* MAGA hat, standing silently and smiling yet described that as being aggressive toward a Native American beating a drum and chanting.
 
This is ridiculous. All of this is factually true about the rally:

1) A rally hosted by White Supremacists.

2) A rally which was well publicized to be a White Supremacist rally.

3) A rally with the stated purpose of uniting White Supremacists from across the USA.

4) A rally where KKK and Neo Nazi flags paraphernalia was common

5) A rally which had a numerous and exclusively White Supremacist speakers, except for the last person who was apparently "neutral", and so not on either "side".

6) A rally where White Supremacists were carrying torches to honor the KKK

7) A rally where White Supremacists were chanting Nazi anti-Jewish slogans to honor the Neo Nazis present.


You're really going to argue that the POTUS saying there were "some very fine people" on this side is magically not referring to these people? That is asinine.

The White Supremacists agreed with the rest of the non-Trump supporting world, and certainly didn't have any problem figuring it out.

Neo-nazis celebrate Trump's remarks about Charlottesville riots
The founder of the Daily Stormer, a neo-Nazi and white supremacist website that considers itself a part of the alt-right, celebrated the fact that Trump "outright refused to disavow" the white nationalist rally and movement.

"People saying he cucked are shills and kikes," wrote the founder, Andrew Anglin. "He did the opposite of cuck. He refused to even mention anything to do with us. When reporters were screaming at him about White Nationalism he just walked out of the room."

...
"Trump comments were good," said another Daily Stormer commenter. "He didn't attack us. He just said the nation should come together. Nothing specific against us. He said that we need to study why people are so angry, and implied that there was hate... on both sides! So he implied the antifa are haters."

The commenter continued: "There was virtually no counter-signaling of us at all. He said he loves us all. Also "Trump comments were good," said another Daily Stormer commenter. "He didn't attack us. He just said the nation should come together. Nothing specific against us. He said that we need to study why people are so angry, and implied that there was hate... on both sides! So he implied the antifa are haters."

The commenter continued: "There was virtually no counter-signaling of us at all. He said he loves us all. Also refused to answer a question about white nationalists supporting him. No condemnation at all. When asked to condemn, he just walked out of the room. Really, really good. God bless him." . No condemnation at all. When asked to condemn, he just walked out of the room. Really, really good. God bless him."

And yet, here you are still pushing the same lie.

I'm about ready to say that such crap should belong in the conspiracy threads with the rest of the garbage.
 
Were the very fine people chanting "Jews will not replace us"? I can't imagine someone who just wanted to protect historic monuments doing something like that.

No, because he excluded them.
 
This guy is a POS who is responsible for his own actions, the POS president definitely does hold some responsibility

Amazing. I didn't even need to use ellipsis.
 
Trump didn't refer to the neo-Nazis as "fine people." He said there were very fine people on both sides, meaning those with oppositional viewpoints, those trying to protect statues and those trying to tear them down.

From the interview

Reporter: "The neo-Nazis started this. They showed up in Charlottesville to protest --"
Trump: "Excuse me, excuse me. They didn’t put themselves -- and you had some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides. You had people in that group. Excuse me, excuse me. I saw the same pictures as you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name."

In Context: Donald Trump’s ‘very fine people on both sides’ remarks (transcript) | PolitiFact

There are no fine Nazis. Neo or otherwise.
 
Trump didn't refer to the neo-Nazis as "fine people." He said there were very fine people on both sides, meaning those with oppositional viewpoints, those trying to protect statues and those trying to tear them down.

Can you honestly say what this character means or meant? I can't because it seems he doesn't even know his own mind and speaks to play to the particular mob he's preaching to on any particular day. He's doing tricks for the vote.

Even when he says something, he'll say the opposite the next day and then deny ever even saying it to begin with. I was one of those who said he won the election, let's give him a fair chance. Well, after watching, listening and observing, I personally don't give him any benefit of the doubt anymore.

He has talk show hosts like Rush and Hannity whispering in his ear on how he can defend his outrageous remarks once they spill out of his mouth, I listen to conservative talk radio a lot and know all about that. Unfortunately all of the AM talk radio stations have been taken over by conservative christian owners, and they just added a new station to the mix.

There are no alternatives, the republicans are scrambling to get their 'opinions' out in a big way, there are no opposite views to be found. I listen on and off to hear what they're saying, and each day I'm amazed to hear how far out they're becoming. Even hosts like Dennis Prager who use to be somewhat truthful and realistic, has become a Trump worshiper and has lost any credibility he's ever had...sad in a way to see them fold like that. They're jumping through hoops to make excuses for this guy in office.

I really did wish him success, didn't want him to fail, and wished the best for the country under his watch, but like many others, am not only disappointed, but thoroughly disgusted. Just my opinion, but I can't see how folks continue to excuse his behavior and speech.
 
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