LA immigration protests live updates: 700 Marines deployed to Los Angeles

[SCrider]

no it was 100% the truth

are sanctuary cities Democrat ran ? yes
did Biden allow millions to come to the USA illegally starting day 1 of his presidency ? yes
who fights so hard to keep the illegally here people her? Democrats

look at this forum- its mostly liberal and ya'll losing your MINDS when illegals are being deported

c'mon, this is common knowledge, why lie and try to hide it ?

You really have no clue about this topic.

 

[LostInSeattle]

A coup with zero guns and zero KIAs isn't a coup. It was a riot.

It was not a coup, but a coup attempt. And it was not limited to the rioters/demonstrators. Trump claimed election fraud where there was none - against the assessment of his own Justice Department, tried to submit slates of fake electors, pressured Pence to reject certified electoral counts illegally and unconstitutionally, and generally sought to undermine, subvert and delay the process - including by having supporters storm the Capitol while in session - in the hope of throwing the decision to the House.

Yeah, it was a coup attempt.

 

[gbg3]

No. No. No.

Biden, Obama, Clinton, all deported more to little fanfare.



Yet we've had multiple polls upthread showing the contrary, or support dropping when Trump goes after the non-criminal he said he would not go after.

I don't know if you have a specific Trump quote in mind, but what I think was expressed is that they'd start with the most dangerous and go from there. Did Trump say he would not deport non-criminal illegals from the U.S. (of course, I mean crimes other than their obvious crime of entering the country illegally)?

Trump spent his whole campaign discussing deportations. And his administration has very regularly said they would deport all those illegals found when in the process of pursuing a dangerous illegal criminal.

 

[SgtRock]

Well, their actions indicate otherwise. They seem intent on deporting anyone and everyone, especially people just looking for work at Home Depot.

If they're in the country illegaly then they must be deported. Trump campaigned on mass deportations. He won all 7 swing states and the popular vote. 77 million American patriots turned out for President Trump. He has our blessing and a mandate to round them up and send them home.

 

[stealthycat]

You voted for a convicted felon, didn't you?

I did

Again, Trump was in court/found guilty in what he did ... what did her parents face? what convictions? what trials ?

nothing

if you excuse them, then excuse Trump right ? be consistent

 

[stealthycat]

Cherry picking photos from the loop you've been watching is sad.


Where are the photos of the peaceful protestors?

Your media is lying to you.

And you claim to have determined, through the watching of looped video, that you know more than the people on the ground.

so the photo's & video's are lies

wow


you are very very confused if you don't see the violence/unrest/attacks

peaceful protests are fine (they're also fantastic places for ICE to identify illegally here people for arrest and deportation) only when they turn into throwing bricks/rocks, attacking ICE/police, burning cars etc do law enforcement have to get involved/arrest/break up the rioting/looting etc

you know this, its common sense stuff everyone knows

 

[stealthycat]

Show where Biden allowed millions to illegally enter the U.S..

wow

ok, please don't enter topics/discussions when you don't even know the facts of the topic - it makes things SO much easier

illegal immigration under Biden - only the ones they know about, you can figure millions came in more because of Biden's Day One moves to weaken border and allow millions in

 

[Michael Cole]

so the photo's & video's are lies

The presentation is a lie, which you are parroting here.

wow


you are very very confused if you don't see the violence/unrest/attacks

peaceful protests are fine (they're also fantastic places for ICE to identify illegally here people for arrest and deportation) only when they turn into throwing bricks/rocks, attacking ICE/police, burning cars etc do law enforcement have to get involved/arrest/break up the rioting/looting etc

you know this, its common sense stuff everyone knows

Reality tells me this was a baby riot. Watching the same video of a tiny riot over and over, and presenting that as something bigger that it was, is a lie, yes.

It's okay to just admit you hate immigrants.

 

[stealthycat]

Names, crimes and gang affiliations please include on your list if you will, the evil gangsters working at Home Depot.

you're asking me for something you can't provide from Biden's administration right? the 'ol "show me names" move liberals pull .... LOL

https://www.ice.gov/newsroom is a good place to start

 

[stealthycat]

If none of them had come there would be none of that happening.... you checked the numbers of Americans in federal and State prisons? You lose all credibility when you make statements like you do

no its 100% fact

cities and states would spending no money on illegals if they wasn't here, there would be no backlogs in our court systems, they wouldn't have raped/murdered American citizens, they wouldn't have trafficked in drugs and people, kids, no kid porn/abuse ..... they'd not be rioting/burning/looting/attacking in LA tonight ....

that's 100% fact, and 100% the core problem

 

[Hamish Howl]

If they're in the country illegaly then they must be deported. Trump campaigned on mass deportations. He won all 7 swing states and the popular vote. 77 million American patriots turned out for President Trump. He has our blessing and a mandate to round them up and send them home.

And we have a blessing and a mandate to cripple his efforts at any opportunity.

Not because we have any particular love for illegal immigrants or whatnot, but out of spite. Because we hate him and we hate you.

 

[Hamish Howl]

I don't know if you have a specific Trump quote in mind, but what I think was expressed is that they'd start with the most dangerous and go from there. Did Trump say he would not deport non-criminal illegals from the U.S. (of course, I mean crimes other than their obvious crime of entering the country illegally)?

Trump spent his whole campaign discussing deportations. And his administration has very regularly said they would deport all those illegals found when in the process of pursuing a dangerous illegal criminal.

So...

...They already got all the dangerous ones?

 

[stealthycat]

No, all that would still occur because it's not just "illegals" doing it. They make up some small percentage of those commiting those crimes, but not the totality.

Tone down the hysterics.

no, an illegally here person CANNOT commit a crime if they're not here

100% fact

 

[stealthycat]

The presentation is a lie, which you are parroting here.

how can literal video's & pictures be lies ?

Reality tells me this was a baby riot. Watching the same video of a tiny riot over and over, and presenting that as something bigger that it was, is a lie, yes.
It's okay to just admit you hate immigrants.

oh so now its real, just "baby" ?

if it was just baby.... then why "Mayor Karen Bass said restrictions were in force in downtown areas of LA from 8pm to 6am local time (4am to 2pm UK time) until further notice as officials attempt to "stop the vandalism and stop the looting"."

Los Angeles protests: Riot police enforce curfew as demonstrations spread across US

The protests, in response to immigration enforcement raids, have now taken place in several cities beyond LA, including New York, Chicago, Philadelphia, Atlanta, Washington, Seattle and Las Vegas.

news.sky.com

its ok to admit you want love violence/rioting/looting

 

[W_Heisenberg]

If they're in the country illegaly then they must be deported.

Okay, but that's not what we were talking about. And that's not what you wrote. This is what you wrote: "Hard working gang members, child rapist, sex traffickers, murderers, and drug dealers. Those are the people that ICE has warrants for."

You tried to claim ICE had warrants, but they didn't, they were just rounding up people. So, what you said was not true. Now, that you got caught in a lie you're trying to change the topic.

And what you said sounds kind of racist, honestly. Do you want to take back that comment? Are you really suggesting that day laborers working at home depot are gang members, child rapists, sex traffickers, murderers, and drug dealers?

Trump campaigned on mass deportations. He won all 7 swing states and the popular vote. 77 million American patriots turned out for President Trump. He has our blessing and a mandate to round them up and send them home.

My take on Trump is he says a lot of stupid shit, whatever's on his mind, and people sort of take from that and believe whatever they want to believe. If you look at the polls the way people view deportations isn't as extreme. Your view, which appears to be very extreme, and appears to be that you want to deport every single illegal immigrant, is very extreme.

Polls show that abstract support for deporting all undocumented immigrants tops out around one-half of respondents, yet once surveys ask specific questions like if the immigrant has family ties, if they're a long-term residence, or if they are non-violent, large majorities shift to favor a pathway to legal status.

So the true support for your zero-tolerance blanket-deportation view is confined mainly to most racist, extreme Republicans. Only about 33% (Pew and Quinnipiac’s most recent national polls) say they back deporting every single undocumented immigrant.

Your view is radical, extreme, racist, and not supported by the majority of Americans. Even a huge chunk of your fellow Trump supporters don't agree with you.

 

[Hamish Howl]

no, an illegally here person CANNOT commit a crime if they're not here

100% fact

So what?

 

[Hamish Howl]

My take on Trump is he says a lot of stupid shit, whatever's on his mind, and people sort of take from that and believe whatever they want to believe. If you look at the polls the way people view deportations isn't as extreme. Your view, which appears to be very extreme, and appears to be that you want to deport every single illegal immigrant, is very extreme.

Trump fans are basically people who have grown weary of the burden of self-governance.

 

[Michael Cole]

how can

...the presentation be a lie? A 10 year old could explain it, but I told you anyway. Now you're just trolling.

Oh look. An insurrection.

literal video's & pictures be lies ?




oh so now its real, just "baby" ?

if it was just baby.... then why "Mayor Karen Bass said restrictions were in force in downtown areas of LA from 8pm to 6am local time (4am to 2pm UK time) until further notice as officials attempt to "stop the vandalism and stop the looting"."

Los Angeles protests: Riot police enforce curfew as demonstrations spread across US

The protests, in response to immigration enforcement raids, have now taken place in several cities beyond LA, including New York, Chicago, Philadelphia, Atlanta, Washington, Seattle and Las Vegas.

news.sky.com

its ok to admit you want love violence/rioting/looting

 

[stealthycat]

So what?

so ... deport every illegally here person and ALL these problems go away

this isn't rocket science

 

[stealthycat]

...the presentation be a lie? A 10 year old could explain it, but I told you anyway. Now you're just trolling.

Oh look. An insurrection.

just stop being dishonest, please

this is ABC news



watch this and come back and admit you're not being honest here

 

[Michael Cole]

just stop

You can't. Which is obvious.

Stop the insurrection.

 

[Nickyjo]

wow

ok, please don't enter topics/discussions when you don't even know the facts of the topic - it makes things SO much easier

illegal immigration under Biden - only the ones they know about, you can figure millions came in more because of Biden's Day One moves to weaken border and allow millions in

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This same canard rises once again. Biden sought to honor US legal and treaty requirements regarding asylum seekers. Trump doesn’t give a shit about laws and treaties. Did you know these “facts of the topic?”

 

[Nickyjo]

Question for the group. I hope this is wrong or I misunderstood, but just heard that ICE agents with masks and no ID are not identifying themselves but are apprehending people. Would someone be justified legally in violently resisting a person like this who laid hands on them?

 

[Chomsky]

I don't know if you have a specific Trump quote in mind, but what I think was expressed is that they'd start with the most dangerous and go from there. Did Trump say he would not deport non-criminal illegals from the U.S. (of course, I mean crimes other than their obvious crime of entering the country illegally)?

Trump spent his whole campaign discussing deportations. And his administration has very regularly said they would deport all those illegals found when in the process of pursuing a dangerous illegal criminal.

Trump/Homan initially claimed they would focus on the criminals. Then when he started the raids, Homan claimed they would pick-up those incidental to their criminal arrests. Lately, Noem has been putting-out statements that she's going after everyone. And finally Friday in L.A., ICE raided a Home Depot parking lot - kicking-off riots.

But regardless, the subject is the support for Trump's Deportations, and he only has (slight) positive support if he's going after criminals. When he goes after others, he does not enjoy positive support.

--

Here's the CBS poll many are referring to upthread:

(there's also a YouGov poll upthread, showing Trump is fully underwater on deportations)

A slight majority feel the administration's deportation efforts are prioritizing people they believe are dangerous criminals.

But if people don't think it is dangerous criminals who are the focus of the deportation effort, support drops dramatically.

Source:

Trump's deportation program nets positive approval amid contrasting views over its scope, CBS News poll finds

Americans think tariffs will lead to higher prices; Trump's perceived goals fare better than his approach.

www.cbsnews.com

 

[JMB1911A1]

And we have a blessing and a mandate to cripple his efforts at any opportunity.

Not because we have any particular love for illegal immigrants or whatnot, but out of spite. Because we hate him and we hate you.