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LA immigration protests live updates: 700 Marines deployed to Los Angeles

Michael Cole said:
And 0% of drunk driving accidents are caused by sober people.

Your point: ZERO.
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100% true - are you 100% backing drunk drivers? supporting them? are the in the streets rioting/looting/burning/attacking because they don't like the laws? are you hating the police that are trying to keep them off the roads ?

no - you'd be GLAD to get all drunk drivers off the road, wouldn't' you ?

now, thank Trump and be glad he's working to get the USA to having no illegally here people
 
Ikari said:
lol

I think you've lost the narrative. If you're going to suggest that if we deport 100% of "illegals" that we won't have murder or rape or gangs, then I have a bridge to sell ya.
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if we deported 100% of the illegals that's right, there would be no illegally here people committing any crimes at all, no rapes, no murders, no drug/human trafficking, no child abuse/kid porn, it wouldn't be costing cities/states/GOVT hundreds of millions of dollars to try and deal with them all ....

all the problems coming from illegals disappear when there are no illegals here
 
Arguing with dumb tautologies is...well...dumb.

0% of abortions happen to women who aren't pregnant.
100% of armed robberies are committed by people with a weapon.
ZERO points are made by using dumb tautologies.

You hate immigrants. Hate. Hate. Hate. Hope it doesn't affect your health.
 
So huzzah at affecting the crime rate by like 5%. Keep pretending you're on some moral crusade. MAGA is really chasing windmills with this nonsense.
 
Why must?
 

you keep making true points - good for you !

and you keep ignoring the truth - the core problem here is illegally here people ...... if they were not here all the problems we have associated with them dissappear

solution - deport every illegally here person

even a left wing TDS suffer can agree with Bill Clinton and Obama on that, right ?
 
W_Heisenberg said:
I don't care. I am going to use the term because it's appropriate even if it isn't perfect.
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It's the right word. Fascism has invariably started as corrupt gangsterism, and then hardened into a degenerate state based on human sacrifice.

Now, a lot of Trumpistas are straight up falangists, given their theocratic obsessions.
 
Ikari said:
So huzzah at affecting the crime rate by like 5%. Keep pretending you're on some moral crusade. MAGA is really chasing windmills with this nonsense.
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I thought every life mattered ??

Its not just murders/rapes/crimes .... its the economic impact from taking care of millions and millions of illegally here people and all the negative that comes with them

there should be no illegally here people
 
stealthycat said:
I thought every life mattered ??
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Don't be silly. Russian lives don't matter, for example. Neither do MAGA lives. Even MAGAs believe that, which can be demonstrated by their rejection of modern medicine in favor of woo woo hippie shit.
 
Hamish Howl said:
Don't be silly. Russian lives don't matter, for example. Neither do MAGA lives. Even MAGAs believe that, which can be demonstrated by their rejection of modern medicine in favor of woo woo hippie shit.
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wow

you literally said Trump voters lives don't matter


wow
 
Uncensored2008 said:
This insurrection is about and for illegal aliens - with democrat support for colonization of the USA. And yes, those who are actively engaged in insurrection to end the Constitutional Republic are our enemies.
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What insurrection?

And despite the deportations, protests & riots being about illegal aliens, in response to someone posting, "citizens of the US are not our enemies," you replied illegal aliens are not citizens. Completely ignoring there are U.S. citizens involved in this.
 
stealthycat said:
you keep making true points - good for you !
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I'm mocking your tautological stupidity.

stealthycat said:
and you keep ignoring the truth - the core problem here is illegally here people ...... if they were not here all the problems we have associated with them dissappear
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And if every driver were sober, no one would get killed by a drunk driver.

You're not familiar with a tautology, are you?

stealthycat said:
solution - deport every illegally here person
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Solution to you breaking the speed limit? Lock you up and throw away the key.

stealthycat said:
even a left wing TDS suffer can agree with Bill Clinton and Obama on that, right ?
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You'll have to ask a leftwinger. Try the mirror?
 
Another aspect of this deployment that hasn't been discussed is that of military readiness. I mentioned earlier that it takes a good deal of conditioning to get ordinary people to be able to kill other human beings in battle. It is not a natural instinct. That conditioning is threatened when they are instead embedded into the civilian population with a contrary mission.

Soldier is a mindset. It's not becoming a "killing machine", they're still quite human. And the battlefields they engage on are diverse and complicated. Effective armies are finely tuned machines. The laws of war and rules of engagement are intended to keep discipline and prevent the mechanisms of warfare from spinning out of control and crushing the population. It's about restraint. The effects of such lack of restraint are apparent in Russia's behavior in Ukraine and Israel's in Gaza. The participants in those atrocities are severely damaged, socially and mentally, as are the fighting forces themselves.

Using soldiers in policing also damages them. Soldiery and policing are very, very different functions in society - hence the Posse Comitatas Act, a reaction to the use of the military in civil law enforcement after the Civil War - although both involve the potential use of violence and require a highly trained cadre with the appropriate discipline and mindset. It's difficult enough to keep police forces in check (see a long discussion of militarizing the police), but placing Soldiers, disciplined for battle, in such an environment creates an internal conflict.

Ordinary people cannot and should not be reduced to "threats" and "targets", and the reverse is also true. Battle is frequently a matter of timing and discernment - literally split second decisions. Introducing hesitation into that mindset can be fatal on the battlefield. It's corrosive to a fighting force.
 
stealthycat said:
wow

you literally said Trump voters lives don't matter


wow
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Value yourself enough not to bitch out to Donald ****ing Trump of all the possible rapey old bastards, and then, you know, make amends for inflicting him upon the world.

I mean, y'all could've elevated Michelle Bachmann or Ted Cruz, gotten all of your policy dreams into the White House, and had none of the broad-daylight grifting, fascism, Putin-fellating and White Nationalists in the streets.

****, man, you could've backed Liz Cheney. And we'd be arguing policy, not Argentine Junta style abductions...
 
That you're unaware the police setup a barricade on the other side of those doors, the top of which is clearly visible through the windows...



Means you forfeit any concern to your objections to police using any means necessary to protect members of Congress against an advancing angry mob.
 
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