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Kyle Rittenhouse, 17, charged with murder after two killed during Wisconsin protests

What part isn't true? He is running away. He trips/falls. He gets kicked by a man as he aims his gun. He fires at those near him. He then gets up and begins firing more as people flee.

The stand your ground law, is you don't have a duty to retreat - i believe. He did retreat. Stand your ground law, wouldn't be relevant to the charges.

The firing, was at people that kept attacking him. He trips, shoots the guy that attacks him. Stops shooting until he gets attacked again. Guy raises his hands, doesn't get shot until he starts running at the kid (still on the ground) again. All three of those are self defense. I don't know what occurred prior.
 
From video, we have this POS waving guns around in a gas station that they had taken it upon themselves to “defend”.

Exactly, He had to have known that his actions would provoke people that were already on edge. I believe that was the point.
 
It's fine for him to be there. It's not fine to shoot into an unarmed crowd of people.

has that been proven? the only video evidence shows him shooting those who are attacking him while not engaging a person who did run at him but then backed off and raising his hands in a sign of surrender
 
He inserted himself belligerently into the situation, and was carrying a semi automatic weapon and waving it around and shooting in public.

If he hadn't shown up with that weapon and openly waved it around, clearly provoking people already on edge, he would not have been in a position to take a life.
 
From video, we have this POS waving guns around in a gas station that they had taken it upon themselves to “defend”.

what created the environment where people would feel a need to defend businesses? answer-lawless leftwing looters and rioters
 
If he hadn't shown up with that weapon and openly waved it around, clearly provoking people already on edge, he would not have been in a position to take a life.

How does having a weapon provoke violent thugs?
 
Minimum age 18 with parents consent, with no consent the minimum age is 21.
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The actual statutes do not say that:

§ Sec. 430 ILCS 65/4 Application for Firearm Owner's Identification Card
(a) Each applicant for a Firearm Owner's Identification Card must:
(1) Make application on blank forms prepared and furnished at convenient locations throughout the State by the
Department of State Police, or by electronic means, if and when made available by the Department of State Police;
and
(2) Submit evidence to the Department of State Police that:
(i) He or she is 21 years of age or over, or if he or she is under 21 years of age that he or she has the written
consent of his or her parent or legal guardian to possess and acquire firearms and firearm ammunition and that
he or she has never been convicted of a misdemeanor other than a traffic offense or adjudged delinquent,
provided, however, that such parent or legal guardian is not an individual prohibited from having a Firearm
Owner's Identification Card and files an affidavit with the Department as prescribed by the Department stating that
he or she is not an individual prohibited from having a Card;



And what contexts are those?
At the very least, a minor of his age can legally carry and transport a firearm to use for hunting, at a gun range, hunter safety course, etc. There are no exceptions listed in the statutes, but there's always the possibility that case law has made a "in the spirit of the law" restriction.
 
How does having a weapon provoke violent thugs?

Come on now, showing up intentionally to chaotic and volatile event where people are emotional and irrational with a loaded deadly weapon. it's a safe bet that some of those emotional and irrational individuals are going to take that that weapon as a sign of provocation and a threat. Then they get shot. i suspect this kid knew or was hoping to pull the trigger. He's been charges with first-degree intentional homicide, so we'll see what happens.
 
There is not evidence to support this that I have seen.

Really? He shows up at a gas station and unilaterally declares that he’s going to defend it. He doesn’t own it. He’s not even from the neighborhood.

No, he was a white punk with a gun looking for trouble. And he got it.
 
If he hadn't shown up with that weapon and openly waved it around, clearly provoking people already on edge, he would not have been in a position to take a life.
Ah, yes. The old "she wore a skirt so she was asking to get raped" argument.
 
Really? He shows up at a gas station and unilaterally declares that he’s going to defend it. He doesn’t own it. He’s not even from the neighborhood.

No, he was a white punk with a gun looking for trouble. And he got it.
Yes, really.

If you want to see someone being belligerent, watch the video where the guy that eventually got shot in the head was trying to get physical and others were holding him back as he screamed "Shoot me nigga! Shoot me!"
 
Yes, really.

If you want to see someone being belligerent, watch the video where the guy that eventually got shot in the head was trying to get physical and others were holding him back as he screamed "Shoot me nigga! Shoot me!"

Yeah...but you can't then literally shoot him at that.
 
Come on now, showing up intentionally to chaotic and volatile event where people are emotional and irrational with a loaded deadly weapon. it's a safe bet that some of those emotional and irrational individuals are going to take that that weapon as a sign of provocation and a threat.
So in your view, it's not unlike a pretty woman who goes to a bar where there are horny and irrational men and it's her own damn fault if she gets raped.
 
So in your view, it's not unlike a pretty woman who goes to a bar where there are horny and irrational men and it's her own damn fault if she gets raped.

No, nothing like that. Your end of the lesson.
 
Yeah...but you can't then literally shoot him at that.
No, but when the same belligerent asshole who has already shown himself to behave irrationally tries to attack you and doesn't let up when you retreat to diffuse the situation, things change.
 
No, but when the same belligerent asshole who has already shown himself to behave irrationally tries to attack you and doesn't let up when you retreat to diffuse the situation, things change.

And he was being held back by others, so you take that opportunity to GTFO, not shoot the jerk in the head.
 
Really? He shows up at a gas station and unilaterally declares that he’s going to defend it. He doesn’t own it. He’s not even from the neighborhood.

No, he was a white punk with a gun looking for trouble. And he got it.
Actually, he attempted to run from trouble.

Twice.
 
And he was being held back by others, so you take that opportunity to GTFO, not shoot the jerk in the head.
So because there was a belligerent asshole on the street, everyone with a gun should have run away?
 
So because there was a belligerent asshole on the street, everyone with a gun should have run away?

There are belligerent assholes everywhere. You don't get to shoot someone for being a belligerent asshole. There'd be no one left if we did.
 
There are belligerent assholes everywhere. You don't get to shoot someone for being a belligerent asshole. There'd be no one left if we did.
Good thing he didn't shoot him for that.

This is a good teachable moment for idiots everywhere. Don't go screaming and chasing down someone with a rifle that has done nothing wrong and is doing his best to get away from you.
 
Good thing he didn't shoot him for that.

They guy was being a belligerent asshole, the kid shot him. That kicked off everything else. That's the end all of it. He had plenty of opportunity to remove himself from the situation. Hell, he drove all the way up from Illinois with a gun to specifically PUT himself in that situation.

Some guy screaming "shoot me" doesn't excuse shooting them.
 
They guy was being a belligerent asshole, the kid shot him. That kicked off everything else. That's the end all of it. He had plenty of opportunity to remove himself from the situation. Hell, he drove all the way up from Illinois with a gun to specifically PUT himself in that situation.

Some guy screaming "shoot me" doesn't excuse shooting them.
it wasn't exactly a long trip
 
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