KUDOS To Lt. Col. Stuart Scheller ......... For Telling it like it is.

[Port & Starboard]

You had to be a victim.

You lost, and decided to go stupid about 8 posts ago.

You're not very bright.

 

[noonereal]

The military needs more good officers like him.

Marine Battalion Commander Fired After Blasting 'Inept' Military Leadership Over Afghanistan Withdrawal

A sitting Marine battalion commander on Thursday blasted the “ineptitude” of U.S. military leadership over the disastrous Afghanistan withdrawal, saying he was willing to risk losing his 17-year career and future retirement pension in order to “demand accountability” from top military brass.

freebeacon.com

He may have just been fired, but I'll bet there are many many young Marines who would follow him anywhere.

Yawn

Anything is better than spending another 20 years there and this was going to happen whenever we left.

 

[Fishking]

The military needs more good officers like him.

Marine Battalion Commander Fired After Blasting 'Inept' Military Leadership Over Afghanistan Withdrawal

A sitting Marine battalion commander on Thursday blasted the “ineptitude” of U.S. military leadership over the disastrous Afghanistan withdrawal, saying he was willing to risk losing his 17-year career and future retirement pension in order to “demand accountability” from top military brass.

freebeacon.com

He may have just been fired, but I'll bet there are many many young Marines who would follow him anywhere.

17 years down the drain. Ouch. He isn't wrong, though. They ****ed it up. Then you have that stupid ****face general in Congress recommending woke bullshit reading material and being a giant douche and moron who still has a job.

 

[Fishking]

I don't admire breaking rules in the military. He should have retired first. He lacks integrity.

It wouldn't be integrity. What he did was an act of integrity. What he lacked was military discipline.

 

[Common Sense 1]

It appears the Trumper fantasy "I know more than the generals" results in "Trump would have saved the day."

You know, like he did with Covid.

Stuck on president Trump? Again?

 

[911Sparky]

Tucker must have used the phrase "group think" and it caught on amongst the faithful.

 

[ecofarm]

Stuck on president Trump? Again?

Your objection is stupid. This is a political debate forum and Trump is apparently running for President. People parroting Trump's claims that US generals are fake is relevant in a thread about US generals being criticized.

"Leave Trump alone! Leave him alone!" is horribly stupid. Acting like a major party's candidate for President is ever irrelevant in a political debate is terribly stupid.

 

[braindrain]

You being a Trumper doesn't change anything. The officer is a shitbag. A coward. If he believed what he said, he would have retired first. But he didn't wanna cut the cord. He wasn't willing, let alone more than willing.

It's still funny to watch it be denied.

Funny how I don’t remember you complaining like this when the CPT of the TR complained about his command. Hmm I wonder what the difference could be. Do you really not realize just how obvious you are.

But to perfectly honest I really couldn’t care less what the opinion of a E4 is.

 

[ecofarm]

Funny how I don’t remember you complaining like this when the CPT of the TR complained about his command. Hmm I wonder what the difference could be. Do you really not realize just how obvious you are.

But to perfectly honest I really couldn’t care less what the opinion of a E4 is.

If you wanna cheerlead for an undisciplined integrity lacking office slouch, go right ahead.

 

[braindrain]

If you wanna cheerlead for an undisciplined integrity lacking office slouch, go right ahead.

So you have nothing condemning the cpt and f the TR when he spoke out against his command. Hmmmm such a mystery why that is.
Honestly it’s not. No one cares about the military opinion of an E4.

 

[ecofarm]

So you have nothing condemning the cpt and f the TR when he spoke out against his command. Hmmmm such a mystery why that is.
Honestly it’s not. No one cares about the military opinion of an E4.

Give a term to search with my username.

 

[Argent]

Meh. He's getting his 15 minutes of fame and maybe even a book deal. I watched his video a few times. Something is off with that guy -- body language, facial expression, tone. I smell a rat.

Note in the article what he states as his life purpose. Delusions of grandeur perhaps?

And this: “But what I’ll say is, from my position, potentially all those people did die in vain if we don’t have senior leaders that own up and raise their hand and say ‘we did not do this well in the end,’” he said. “Without that we just keep repeating the same mistakes.”

I'm not sure who he is referring to by "all those people" so I'm assuming he means members of the military. What a slap in the face to the soldiers who died in Afghanistan and to their families -- to say their deaths would be in vain if their commanders did not admit to making mistakes. Any soldier whose life ends while serving is a hero regardless of the ineptitude of military leaders. To suggest that their deaths were in vain because of the ineptitude of military leaders is demeaning and an unconscionable insult.

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[ecofarm]

Funny how I don’t remember you complaining like this when the CPT of the TR complained about his command. Hmm I wonder what the difference could be. Do you really not realize just how obvious you are.

So you have nothing condemning the cpt and f the TR when he spoke out against his command. Hmmmm such a mystery why that is. Honestly it’s not.

I'm consistent.

His method was bad for a lot of reasons. He had plenty of non-press options.

He didn't resign. He could have, instead of going to the press. But he didn't want to sacrifice his career for his men. He wanted to sacrifice his career for fame.

I await your apology. What rank are you, anyway. Us Joes wanna know what's apologizing to an E4.

 

[Argent]

P.S. Forgot to add to my post above that he probably has a bright future awaiting him in the Proud Boys or similar group.

 

[ecofarm]

No one will ever find a post of mine that's partisan because I'm not. I've never denigrated liberals or conservatives, Dems or Reps. How many other members can say that? Very few. And I've been here a decade.

I'm a real independent. My principles, not politics, determine my positions.

Let someone else doubt that. I can't wait.

 

[notquiteright]

The Chain of Command should be called out. You freaking liberals cheered the Captain of a Navy ship when he got tired of the stone walling from DC when his ship was infected, so don't sit their all sanctimonious. You liberals called him a hero. But this guy is a shit bag in your book because of your group think. Pure hypocrisy.

IIRC that Captain's men cheered him long before anyone else did. I didn't hear the Marine Coronel's men cheering him in a home made video like the Navy Captain. There is a difference. Don't try to deflect...

The Marine isn't trying to protect his unit from anything like the Navy Captain did. The Jarhead is posting on social media like a butt hurt drama queen. A poorly thought out emotional reaction put on a very public media- not the kind of leadership that should give anyone who's life is literally in his hands a warm fuzzy.

Could you imagine a Bn Cmdr decrying his leadership to the public if during combat operations he feels a different plan of attack would have been better???

After the fact, perhaps he could do so, but to lose control of his emotions when his former unit is engaged???

Now the Navy Captain- Cpt Brett Crozier- was reinstated BY THE NAVY (so more than us liberals approved) and the acting secretary resigned...

You shouldn't accuse others of group think- Vindman didn't go full diva on social media, but the MAGA mindset only sees the Orange Buffon's 'perfect' version of a conversation being contradicted and howled full throttle.

The MAGA hypocrisy isn't very pure...

 

[braindrain]

I'm consistent.



I await your apology. What rank are you, anyway. Us Joes wanna know what's apologizing to an E4.

My apologies. I misremembered your posts about the TR. Shouldn’t have been posting while drinking.
You are right that you were consistent and though I don’t agree with your opinion on this consistency is a lot more then you get from many people here.

 

[GummyVitamins]

It appears the Trumper fantasy "I know more than the generals" results in "Trump would have saved the day."

You know, like he did with Covid.

I was wondering how many posts it would take before someone tried to make this conversation about Trump and Covid. The answer was nine.

 

[ecofarm]

I was wondering how many posts it would take before someone tried to make this conversation about Trump and Covid. The answer was nine.

Takes a long time for someone to bring up the former President and Republican Presidential candidate at a political debate forum, huh? I bet large mouth bass is a real gotcha at the freshwater fishing forums.

 

[GummyVitamins]

Takes a long time for someone to bring up the former President and Republican Presidential candidate at a political debate forum, huh? I bet large mouth bass is a real gotcha at the fresh water fishing forums.

Actually it didn't take very long. But, it's still pretty awkward considering it's not germane to the thread topic of a Marine posting a video complaining about the strategy of the current administration. His complaint was about current military leaders making the mistake of closing Bagram early and misleading the people in Afghanistan about the threat they were facing. Trump didn't make them do that. The Biden administration did that. You'd think there would have at least been some on topic conversation before the knee-jerk TDS started to kick in. It does say a lot that rather than attacking his points people are attacking his character and Trump. Nothing good about the people doing it, but it says a lot nonetheless.

 

[ecofarm]

Actually it didn't take very long. But, it's still pretty awkward considering it's not germane to the thread topic of a Marine posting a video complaining about the strategy of the current administration. His complaint was about current military leaders making the mistake of closing Bagram early and misleading the people in Afghanistan about the threat they were facing. Trump didn't make them do that. The Biden administration did that. You'd think there would have at least been some on topic conversation before the knee-jerk TDS started to kick in.

This is a political debate forum. Complaining about the mention of Trump is stupid. It's victim narrative bs. Go cry "leave him alone!" on Facebook.

 

[GummyVitamins]

This is a political debate forum. Complaining about the mention of Trump is stupid. It's victim narrative bs. Go cry "leave him alone!" on Facebook.

Cool story bro. Rather than attacking his points it makes sense to attack his character and a previous president. It's a clear sign of TDS and the fact that he's right.

 

[ecofarm]

Cool story bro. Rather than attacking his points it makes sense to attack his character and a previous president. It's a clear sign of TDS and the fact that he's right.

I made a comment about the narrative and its relation to Trump rhetoric at a political debate forum. And you cry. Makes sense.

 

[GummyVitamins]

I made a comment about the narrative and its relation to Trump rhetoric at a political debate forum. And you cry. Makes sense.

The narrative is related to "Trump rhetoric?" How? Nobody is crying. Just laughing at failed attempts to justify TDS.

 

[roguenuke]

The Chain of Command should be called out.

You freaking liberals cheered the Captain of a Navy ship when he got tired of the stone walling from DC when his ship was infected, so don't sit their all sanctimonious.

You liberals called him a hero

But this guy is a shit bag in your book because of your group think.

Pure hypocrisy.

The Navy Ship Captain was trying to directly protect his crew. This guy was complaining, ranting on Facebook about military decisions he didn't like that had nothing directly to do with those within his command.