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Of course, we need a good definition of terms .. that all can agree to .. which is all but impossible ..
IMO, "ignorant" means uneducated, more so than simply stupid ..
"Knowing the truth" , in whose opinion ? .. this is so open, we have been here on this orb for 6,000 years and are not even close to knowing the truth ..
The old adage "a fool and his money are soon parted" is so very true .
If you had to choose between being ignorant and wealthy or being poor but understanding the truth, which would you choose?
That you believe this will cause you to be happy is your illusion.
I'd take knowledge over wealth.
The point jamesrage is that regardless of whether one is wealthy or not, he will experience various types of mundane happiness and distress. However, such experiences are transient and therefore the wise have concluded that they are illusory in nature. What is constant through these types of experiences is the phenomenon of sentience itself. The is because the soul, the atma is of the nature of a superior, transcendental spiritual potency that has come from the Supreme atma, the Paramatma, or God. The mundane, material energy is also an energy of God, but it is of an inferior nature and produces various types of illusory, mundane experiences for those who prefer those types of experiences. However, thoughtful and intelligent persons come to understand that these types of experiences do not give satisfaction, and therefore they turn their attention towards the substantial happiness that can be obtained through activity that is supported by the superior, transcendental, spiritual energy of God. These experiences are eternal in nature, like the atma, and it is there that real substantial happiness is to be found.
If you had to choose between being ignorant and wealthy or being poor but understanding the truth, which would you choose?
I'd take knowledge over wealth.
That you believe you can declare authoritatively what will or won't make me happy is your delusion.
When you have to live in a dangerous neighborhood because you can't afford to live in a decent neighborhood,when your kids have to attend lousy schools, when you manage to actually get something nice you have to wait until your neighbors are asleep so that they are not plotting to steal from you and many other things that poor people face then come back and let me know if you would rather be poor and know the truth or wealthy and ignorant.
the latter one.but we know life is a heaven when you are both ignorant and wealthy
Hm. Not lookin' like quite the Truth I had in mind.
I am very grateful that we are not limited to those two options. There is no shame in being ignorant because that is a correctable condition. So I think I would take the money and then use it to obtain knowledge. Of course those who have knowledge are unlikely to remain poor unless they choose to remain poor, but I would think having the financial resources to begin with would be more efficient and a lot faster. (Acknowledging that approaching it from this angle violates the philosophical point of the thread.)
too bad .I wish I was ignorant like you :mrgreen:Yep. Like I said before, a knucklehead girl! :lamo
Any rate, at least you got it half right.
too bad .I wish I was ignorant like you :mrgreen:
I honestly hope that you never have to be as ignorant as I am.
Come one Goshin. You have the heart of a warrior. Don't get all weak minded because the task of self realization is daunting.
LOL, Bush is much smarter than most Americans. Even White House Counsel Lanny Davis admitted that Bush was a genius when it came to understanding other people and being able to get along with them
His military IQ test demonstrated he scored higher than either Kerry or Kennedy. and like it or not, you cannot graduate from Harvard Business school if you are a moron.
when Bush was a pledge back in the days Yale had fraternities, he and all the other pledges were in some meeting with upper class members. Pledges were asked if they could name all the other pledges in the room and Bush not only did that, he had learned their home towns as well
sorry DF-Morons cannot do that sort of thing.
When you have to live in a dangerous neighborhood because you can't afford to live in a decent neighborhood,when your kids have to attend lousy schools, when you manage to actually get something nice you have to wait until your neighbors are asleep so that they are not plotting to steal from you and many other things that poor people face then come back and let me know if you would rather be poor and know the truth or wealthy and ignorant.
Then Davis is a sycophant. Bush 'understands people'? I'd be surprised if he understands how to wipe his ass without redecorating. Tell me this was an idle jest.LOL, Bush is much smarter than most Americans. Even White House Counsel Lanny Davis admitted that Bush was a genius when it came to understanding other people and being able to get along with them
Depends how big your daddy is. Prince William went to Edinburgh, despite his failure to attain the requisite grades for eligibility.His military IQ test demonstrated he scored higher than either Kerry or Kennedy. and like it or not, you cannot graduate from Harvard Business school if you are a moron.
You find this to be impressive, because?when Bush was a pledge back in the days Yale had fraternities, he and all the other pledges were in some meeting with upper class members. Pledges were asked if they could name all the other pledges in the room and Bush not only did that, he had learned their home towns as well
Of course they can. A paltry feat of memory hardly equates with inordinate cognition. He might treat us to a verbatim recital of Shakespeare's entire works. It means nothing.sorry DF-Morons cannot do that sort of thing.
Actually unless one is very advanced in terms of real knowledge to begin with, having the money is likely to be a very big obstruction on the path of knowledge. Usually people have to give up such things first.
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