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Klobuchar: Mandatory gun buybacks is not gun confiscation

Rich2018 said:
So I know.

You're the one who's admitted making home made guns.

Slapping a big target on your back.


Than you for your cooperation.
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No. So you presume. You also assume I have a target on my back. There are many gunsmiths and people work on their own firearms. None have targets on their backs unless they have broken laws.
 
Rich2018 said:
Yes, I'd use law enforcement, like presidents and legislators do.
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Most LEOs I know are the ones leading the charge against you gun grabbers. Here in MA they organize gun training classes, permitting, CC and one their most popular classes is ladies night....where women get together and learn how to carry and shoot. Very popular. Nothing more attractive than a women defending her rights while making fun of man bun wearing leftist gun grabbers. How weak can a person get?
 
AlphaOmega said:
You should volunteer to come get them.
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Do you also feel people in favor of gun control should seize illegal drugs ?

Your hero Trump is quick to assassinate some, he's also quick to whine about non-existent "bone spurs" - explain that one would you ?


Most LEOs I know are the ones leading the charge against you gun grabbers. Here in MA they organize gun training classes, permitting, CC and one their most popular classes is ladies night....where women get together and learn how to carry and shoot. Very popular. Nothing more attractive than a women defending her rights while making fun of man bun wearing leftist gun grabbers. How weak can a person get?
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Maybe they should choose a different career ?


Perhaps if we ask those same LEO's after they survived a gunshot wound ?
 
Rich2018 said:
Do you also feel people in favor of gun control should seize illegal drugs ?

Your hero Trump is quick to assassinate some, he's also quick to whine about non-existent "bone spurs" - explain that one would you ?




Maybe they should choose a different career ?


Perhaps if we ask those same LEO's after they survived a gunshot wound ?
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I'll pass your comments on to them. Nice rant though...gunshot wounds...drugs, assasination and a Trump rant all in one succinct post.
 
AlphaOmega said:
I'll pass your comments on to them. Nice rant though...gunshot wounds...drugs, assasination and a Trump rant all in one succinct post.
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I like to keep things concise.

They say that a liberal is a conservative who's just been busted by the police
And a conservative is a liberal who's just been mugged.
 
jamesrage said:
From the same people who are trying to tell you that they aren't trying to ban or take away guns when they are trying to ban semiautomatic firearms. Just more dishonesty from anti-2nd amendment trash.
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And resistance to keep these guns, despite how dangerous they are, is coming from the gun lobby trash.
 
Rich2018 said:
And resistance to keep these guns, despite how dangerous they are, is coming from the gun lobby trash.
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Only a anti-2nd amendment piece of **** would call pro-2nd amendment groups "gun lobby trash".
 
jamesrage said:
Only a anti-2nd amendment piece of **** would call pro-2nd amendment groups "gun lobby trash".
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I wonder when they're going suggest that the "gun lobby trash" be loaded on to cattle cars.
 
jamesrage said:
From the same people who are trying to tell you that they aren't trying to ban or take away guns when they are trying to ban semiautomatic firearms. Just more dishonesty from anti-2nd amendment trash.
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There is a gun problem in the US. Gun deaths are rising. Gun injuries are rising. The cost of gun violence is rising. The number of guns is rising. You like to label anyone seeking solutions to the firearm issue....yet you yourself have no solution and display no cooperativeness in having a mature and factual discussion.

Semi-Automatic weapons are weapons not toys, not this necessary object that is fundamental for survival. A ban would be good. It has worked well in Australia for the better of the country and citizens safety rather than following the demands of the obsessive and unhealthy relationship some have with firearms.
 
goldkam said:
Not anti-gun just good old common sense. Its called a good and reasoned policy to curb gun deaths, reduce gun injuries, reduce the financial and economic burden, reduce the number of firearms and call into question the unhealthy and obsessive gun culture.
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It's "anti-gun". The ultimate goal is an outright ban on gun ownership and complete confiscation. Anyone who says otherwise is either lying, or stupid.
 
goldkam said:
There is a gun problem in the US. Gun deaths are rising. Gun injuries are rising. The cost of gun violence is rising. The number of guns is rising. You like to label anyone seeking solutions to the firearm issue....yet you yourself have no solution and display no cooperativeness in having a mature and factual discussion.

Semi-Automatic weapons are weapons not toys, not this necessary object that is fundamental for survival. A ban would be good. It has worked well in Australia for the better of the country and citizens safety rather than following the demands of the obsessive and unhealthy relationship some have with firearms.
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Guns don't kill people, hence there's no way there can be a gun problem.
 
CLAX1911 said:
Yeah this is something people like to say but if it is a buying then I could refuse to sell and it wouldn't be a crime. Got to charge 5 trillion for it which is not enough for you you can go by someone else's.

It's a lie in every sense of the word to call it a buyback.
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It's a "mandatory" buyback. That's just a nice way to say "confiscation".
 
apdst said:
It's a "mandatory" buyback. That's just a nice way to say "confiscation".
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They cite Australia and their "buy back" but the only reason Aussies called it that was because the government can't confiscate property. So it was a loop hole. I guess people think it sounds better.
 
goldkam said:
There is a gun problem in the US. Gun deaths are rising. Gun injuries are rising. The cost of gun violence is rising. The number of guns is rising. You like to label anyone seeking solutions to the firearm issue....yet you yourself have no solution and display no cooperativeness in having a mature and factual discussion.

Semi-Automatic weapons are weapons not toys, not this necessary object that is fundamental for survival. A ban would be good. It has worked well in Australia for the better of the country and citizens safety rather than following the demands of the obsessive and unhealthy relationship some have with firearms.
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Which of congress's legislative powers would allow a ban along the lines you're thinking?
 
Rich2018 said:
Why ?

There's nothing in the 4th amendment giving anyone a right to a gun.
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Why? You do know what it is? " The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. " Warrantless raid on unreliable info innocent people killed hell even wrong addresses. So yeah 4th and Patriot Act.
 
zsu2357 said:
Why? You do know what it is? " The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. " Warrantless raid on unreliable info innocent people killed hell even wrong addresses. So yeah 4th and Patriot Act.
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So the government or their agencies should search your property or seize anything of your property without a warrant.

(unless of course the unconstitutional Patriot Act is cited)


Now where in the 4th amendment is anything preventing a blanket gun ban ?
 
Rich2018 said:
So the government or their agencies should search your property or seize anything of your property without a warrant.

(unless of course the unconstitutional Patriot Act is cited)


Now where in the 4th amendment is anything preventing a blanket gun ban ?
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Which of congress's enumerated legislative powers would enable a blanket gun ban?
 
=Rich2018;1071352548]But such searches would be lawful and the only thing seized would be illegal weapons.
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How would they be lawful since I'm guessing they would be warrantless since their would simply be so many (and the Patriot Act would say o.k.)
And when nothing is found then what? Ah sorry bad tip have a nice day.
Made illegal by the amendment that's repealed the 2nd amendment. So it would be 100% constitutional.
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Dream on about repealing it.
But I'd have a bulletproof shield with me....
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Your shield would be the other side of town. Waaayyy back.
Lethal injection or hanging ...or life without parole
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I think you see things from your view of what you'd do.

I am guessing you're no longer a cop
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Ah no. And yes that question is for CLAX not me. But I think most cops would ignore it.
You must have been rooting for David Koresh...one of his fans was so bummed out when he lost that he blew up a government building in Oklahoma City
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Yes Koresh got screwed over. But you are really reaching aren't you?

What is your evidence of this ?
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Well you would be okay with extermination, why should we pass on making guns. Which isn't rocket science.
 
zsu2357 said:
How would they be lawful since I'm guessing they would be warrantless since their would simply be so many (and the Patriot Act would say o.k.)
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I listed the number of possible causes the police might have on another thread - I think I got to 13 and that was off the top of my head.

Eg: if you've ever bought ammunition or gyn parts/accessories on-line


And when nothing is found then what? Ah sorry bad tip have a nice day.
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Then it's a failed search - I'll bet the police are smarter than that though.


Dream on about repealing it.
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Another who says it's impossible
So you have no fear that registration might lead to confiscation ?


Your shield would be the other side of town. Waaayyy back.
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Explain


I think you see things from your view of what you'd do.
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Well actually more like what I imagine LEO's would do.


Yes Koresh got screwed over. But you are really reaching aren't you?
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So he wasn't a woman abusing rapist ?


Well you would be okay with extermination, why should we pass on making guns. Which isn't rocket science.
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Because home made guns are small scale, and I'm not sure I'd want to trust my life with one...should I ever have to defend my home and family from an armed hoe invasion, I want the best, most reliable guns available.
 
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