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Kilmar Abrego Garcia on way back to US to face criminal charges: Sources

rahl said:
It’s demonstrably false.
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So as I asked, why do you say such demonstrably false nonsense?
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Lack of respect? Native dishonesty? Because he usually gets away with it?
 
stealthycat said:
fact is, Biden DID open borders and allow 10-12 million or more here illegally which of course led to a lot of deportations and you and I have no idea where they were sent or what due processes they did or didn't get because liberal media didn't harp on it

now that they are? liberal left are using it to hate because they're told to
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The bold ⬆️ is a lie. Biden did not open the borders. Why do you need to lie? Such lack of credibility follows you from thread to thread. 🌽🪕

Lursa said:
I love how the MAGA arguments swing wildly...based on convenience...that Biden irresponsibly allowed millions into the country illegally and Biden's work to remove illegal immigrants from the US were almost as bad as TACO's.

The MAGA hypocrisy is hilarious...and shows just how desperate the position. They cannot defend TACO's actions honestly with facts...must obey the king! And so they waffle desperately to find any other excuse. Your posts are a lovely record here on the forum, for all to see.
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Hey, dont forget to stay up tonite waiting for me to send you, as you requested, the details on the millions Biden deported without due process. I'm working on it...stay tuned...dont go to bed!:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
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Deuce said:
We're fighting for due process of law.

Here's a serious question: when did you people stop being skeptical of your government?
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When they chose and submitted to a king.
 
What stands out to me is that the prosecutor resigned, because the case was being brought in bad faith.
 
rahl said:
The economy was booming under Biden after Covid. That is when illegal immigration surges. Biden deported more people than Trump did.
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The economy was booming? Are you trying to suggest it was the economy that caused over 8 million illegal aliens to illegally cross the border? What kind of ridiculous leap of logic is that?
 
rahl said:
Yes

That is what causes illegal immigration

Reality.
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Ridiculous. Biden dropped the wall construction. That was message to illegals to come on in. He ham stringed border agents and signaled that you can come over claim asylum and be released into the country. That was a big invite to come on in. He dropped the remain in Mexico agreement and over 8 million flooded in caravans into the country. Booming economy some how is the cause. What a farce.

Now Trump is in office and that food stopped. It stopped cold.
 
ClaraD said:
There is no evidence of human trafficking. The Trooper didn’t even obtain legal status on the passengers and did not arrest him then or anyone else. ICE didn’t show up either
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We have him transporting passengers for 9 years. We will likely get some kind of legal status for at least a few of them.
 
ClaraD said:
There is also a Supreme Court case that I cited where they determined that simply giving someone a ride in a work vehicle, if part of your job, does not equate transportation of undocumented immigrants under the criminal statute...and that is precisely what he was doing...also, there is the fact we do not know the status of those passengers.
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We don’t need a Supreme Court case for that. Federal law was always about knowingly transport of illegal immigrants. That the driver knew they were illegal immigrants. So it’s not a monumental case in of itself.
 
ElChupacabra said:
Such high level crimes that were not brought before; so strange and oddly convenient. This was such a high level crime that neither the THP nor the FBI thought to have him and the others arrested, yet now there's a case against him. This might fool the folks who are easily fooled by bait and switch games, but not so much for everyone else. As for being "on the wrong side of the issue", that again is one divided between those who parroted the administration's talking points and those who saw right through them.
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Because Biden is fine with bringing criminal immigrants into the country.
 
Linuxcooldude said:
Because Biden is fine with bringing criminal immigrants into the country.
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Who cares? Is Biden in charge of the border?

But, feel free to quote where he ever even implied that. I mean, can you salvage anything from your post?
 
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justoneman said:
Ridiculous.
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Reality
justoneman said:
Biden dropped the wall construction.
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The wall would have had no effect on illegal immigration.
justoneman said:
That was message to illegals to come on in.
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Nope
justoneman said:
He ham stringed border agents and signaled that you can come over claim asylum and be released into the country.
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No he didn’t. He deported more illegals than Trump did.
justoneman said:
That was a big invite to come on in.
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You lied.
justoneman said:
He dropped the remain in Mexico agreement and over 8 million flooded in caravans into the country.
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Mexico stopped allowing them to remain there.
justoneman said:
Booming economy some how is the cause.
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Yes. It’s why they come here.
justoneman said:
What a farce.
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Reality.
justoneman said:
Now Trump is in office and that food stopped. It stopped cold.
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No it didn’t 😂
 
rahl said:
Reality

The wall would have had no effect on illegal immigration.

Nope

No he didn’t. He deported more illegals than Trump did.

You lied.

Mexico stopped allowing them to remain there.

Yes. It’s why they come here.

Reality.

No it didn’t 😂
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www.npr.org

Biden Suspends Deportations, Stops 'Remain In Mexico' Policy

Under the new administration, the Department of Homeland Security looks set to roll back several Trump-era immigration policies and to establish a path to citizenship for immigrants.
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Biden Suspends Deportations, Stops 'Remain In Mexico' Policy
January 21, 20212:45 AM ET
 
It's interesting how wildly inaccurate (read: false) these assertions about Biden and the border are. Yes, post-covid the number of encounters increased (duh), but CPB efficiency in stopping crossing increased substantially under Biden to 78%, far exceeding Trump's first term and he's on pace to do much worse this term (about half). It's less about the number of attempted crossings, and more about the inefficiency of operations.

This is largely the result of two factors: first, under Biden, CBP focused on more efficient methodologies for interdiction. Second, Trump wasted effort on ineffective methods (like his non existent border wall) in the first term; and in this term has been pulling hundreds of Border Patrol officers (at least 500) and equipment away from the border to chase their tails and non-threatening, long term residents that are ICE's responsibility in the interior. All to generate numbers and distract from the failure at the border (which they no longer publish...).

Trump is a grandstanding idiot, and his minions are worse. As a case in point, CBP aircraft have been pulled off the border to assist ICE in the interior. That means they aren't minding the border. That is in addition to several thousands of FBI agents and HSI agents - even Treasury agents - not performing their criminal investigation duties.

The stupidity and dishonesty is rank.
 
justoneman said:
www.npr.org

Biden Suspends Deportations, Stops 'Remain In Mexico' Policy

Under the new administration, the Department of Homeland Security looks set to roll back several Trump-era immigration policies and to establish a path to citizenship for immigrants.
www.npr.org www.npr.org

Biden Suspends Deportations, Stops 'Remain In Mexico' Policy
January 21, 20212:45 AM ET
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Mexico wouldn’t allow them to remain there any longer. Biden deported more people than Trump did. I know reality sucks for your ideology. But it’s not going anywhere.
 
Lursa said:
You wrote criminals ⬇️ . Now...where is the quote I asked for where he ever even implied "he's fine" with that?
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Like Kilmer Abrego Garcia, the very topic of this thread? Bidens FBI/DOJ were fine with letting him go when police suspected him of trafficking illegals. Bidens open border must be complied with.

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rahl said:
Mexico wouldn’t allow them to remain there any longer. Biden deported more people than Trump did. I know reality sucks for your ideology. But it’s not going anywhere.
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Too many untruths. Biden campaigned on stopping the remain in Mexico policy as he said it was inhumane. Then when the Supreme Court ruled he could stop the policy, he did. It’s Biden who stopped it, not Mexico.

In fact Biden reinstated the remain in Mexico policy briefly after negotiation with Mexico in 2021. As the crisis on the border was unpopular with Americans. But ended it after the Supreme Court ruling. Thus, your Mexico ended the policy is false.
 
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Linuxcooldude said:
Like Kilmer Abrego Garcia, the very topic of this thread? Bidens FBI/DOJ were fine with letting him go when police suspected him of trafficking illegals. Bidens open border must be complied with.
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Bobbin and weavin'. Desperate to divert. ⬆️ How about this? Where's that quote? ⬇️

Linuxcooldude said:
Because Biden is fine with bringing criminal immigrants into the country.
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