Rolling Stone did not provide the pictures it used. The pictures at the link were taken by members of the kill team itself. These pictures were also censored by the Pentagon, but got out anyways.
Kill team pictures are here (Not for those with a weak stomach - consider yourself warned).
These soldiers disgraced their uniforms, and America too.
Finally, your argument was "prove it". I just proved it. You could have also proven it for yourself, if partisan hackery was not your motive. The links are all over the internet, and easy to find.
Yeah, there are links all over the net.
I found this one just this evening.
Yon: Rolling Stone’s report on “kill teams” is BS « Hot Air
Michael Yon's credibility as a journalist is purdy much untouchable.
Just going by what Yon reported. Maybe you should email him and tell him that he's full of ****?IIRC Rolling Stone never said the motorcycle kill was not legitimate. The problem was with the sharing and distribution of the combat footage.
Just going by what Yon reported. Maybe you should email him and tell him that he's full of ****?
It was a blog entry not an actual story. Yon is a professional but his blogs are just opinion, not actual reporting. And taking out the motorcycle kill out of the picture hardly makes the whole story "bull****." That's my personal opinion. I really don't care enough to e-mail anyone.
Yon was making a statement of fact.
If you looked at the photos from the link to Rolling Stone that Dana posted, the commentary next to the pics are anything but unbiased.IIRC Rolling Stone never said the motorcycle kill was not legitimate. The problem was with the sharing and distribution of the combat footage.
Which fact was that? That the motorcycle kill was legitimate? Nobody is even disputing that.
If you looked at the photos from the link to Rolling Stone that Dana posted, the commentary next to the pics are anything but unbiased.
Did you even read the material I provided you?
I guess it's true, you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink.
Rolling Stone specifically implecated these soldiers in a war crime.
'Motorcycle Kill': | Rolling Stone Politics | Photos
They specifically linked these troops with the "kill team" dickweeds. Yon's right, it's bull****. Where there's one bull**** story, there's probably another. Especially when RS tries to make a connecction between one of the kill team troops and Sarah Palin. How weak is that?
I stand corrected. You are right. My reading comprehension was off.
You keep acting like a grownup and you're going to turn into a Conservative. Be careful.
That being said, what Rolling Stone did, was take an actual crime and attempt to attach every other killing in Afghanistan to that group of soldiers, that it possibly could.
Rolling Stone specifically implecated these soldiers in a war crime.
'Motorcycle Kill': | Rolling Stone Politics | Photos
They specifically linked these troops with the "kill team" dickweeds. Yon's right, it's bull****. Where there's one bull**** story, there's probably another. Especially when RS tries to make a connecction between one of the kill team troops and Sarah Palin. How weak is that?
Yea, it's such bull**** that the military convicted them, and sentenced one of them to 24 years.
Yea, it's such bull**** that the military convicted them, and sentenced one of them to 24 years.
The fact that they were murdered makes them victims of war.
Ohh please, now you're arguing that these murder victims fall under "war victims" in the DoD regulations... hysterical
So, enemy KIA's are, "victims", now?
Those kids are just sick.
It makes me wonder, if some of them joined the military just because they wanted to kill people... It's really hard to believe that they simply went crazy from being in a war zone, or that they didn't know this was wrong.
What do you think?
...(e) Stuff happens: Many supporters of the Iraq War condemned Abu Ghraib as the poorly supervised, out-of-control prison it was. Lax American oversight resulted in the sexual humiliation of detained Iraqi insurgents. It was a deplorable episode, in which, nonetheless, no one was killed, and yet it took an enormous toll on the credibility of Bush-administration officials. But while the media were covering the Libyan bombing and the Middle East uprisings, a number of Afghan civilians allegedly were executed by a few rogue American soldiers. That was a far worse transgression than anything that happened at Abu Ghraib during Bush’s tenure — but it was apparently an incident that, in the new media climate, could legitimately be ignored. Obama made “stuff happens” an acceptable defense for those doing their best to run a war from Washington...
I would have lit up that motorcycle without hesitation. :shrug:
I'da probably took pics, like I was posing with a 12 point buck, too.
I hadn't thought about it before Oscar brought it up, but these pics and vids are about the only way that troops have to prove that kills are legit. If it's left up to the word of the soliders against the word of the media, the soldiers typically lose out.
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