Just as I predicted, yet another mass shooting...

[vegas giants]

As this thread further unravels into the inevitable idiocy presaged by the OP, it does have value in that it sheds light on why England drowns in acid and its own blood.

Those who could clean up their own backyard instead look into another's, whynging about that which does not concern them in any way.

That Dude on the mount spoke of this; He might observe:

"Remove the knife - and acid - from your own eyes, and concern yourself not with the speck in your neighbor's."

Amen, & good luck to England in addressing it's monumental humanitarian crisis of acid and blood.

eace

40,000 deaths is a speck to you.


Wow....just wow

 

[snakestretcher]

40,000 deaths is a speck to you.


Wow....just wow

Apparently mass-shootings, according to that poster, are "incredibly rare" and barely worth mentioning.

 

[Thoreau72]

Apparently mass-shootings, according to that poster, are "incredibly rare" and barely worth mentioning.

The rational question is, "are they worth examining?"

For some "yes", for others "no".

 

[vegas giants]

The rational question is, "are they worth examining?"

For some "yes", for others "no".

I wonder if the families of the victims have an opinion on that

 

[Thoreau72]

I wonder if the families of the victims have an opinion on that

I wonder if the families of the victims like the appeal to emotion as much as you do?

I wonder if they reject close examination of the story as you do?

 

[vegas giants]

I wonder if the families of the victims like the appeal to emotion as much as you do?

I wonder if they reject close examination of the story as you do?

I bet they do. I bet it is very emotional to them. I bet they want something done

 

[Thoreau72]

I bet they do. I bet it is very emotional to them. I bet they want something done

I bet you're right.

But I know that legislation driven by emotions is not sane legislation. Public policy driven by emotions will certainly backfire and cause harm.

 

[snakestretcher]

I wonder if the families of the victims like the appeal to emotion as much as you do?

I wonder if they reject close examination of the story as you do?

I suggest losing a family member or friend to a random shooter is quite an emotive experience. Of course I could be wrong.

 

[Trump]

Good. The more that these appalling tragedies are highlighted, the better. I guess you would prefer they were brushed under the rug and ignored.

bet you’d like more front page stories on teen suicides also

 

[ttwtt78640]

I bet they do. I bet it is very emotional to them. I bet they want something done

Something was done - good guys with "access to" guns killed the bad guy.

 

[snakestretcher]

bet you’d like more front page stories on teen suicides also

You can bet whatever you like old chum.

 

[snakestretcher]

Something was done - good guys with "access to" guns killed the bad guy.

A bit late for that after the event, don't you think?

 

[vegas giants]

I bet you're right.

But I know that legislation driven by emotions is not sane legislation. Public policy driven by emotions will certainly backfire and cause harm.

Let's try it and see

 

[Thoreau72]

I suggest losing a family member or friend to a random shooter is quite an emotive experience. Of course I could be wrong.

I know that losing a family member or friend to a drug overdose or an automobile or boating accident is very much an emotional experience, as well it should be, it is a perfectly normal response and experience. So what's the point? That life is cruel? Many of us knew that by the time we were 21 years old.

I also know that, to repeat myself, legislation as a form of emotional compensation will likely be very poor legislation indeed.

I also know that those who cannot or will not examine the details of certain public events are much closer to emotional beings than to rational beings.

 

[ttwtt78640]

A bit late for that after the event, don't you think?

Yep, if only we could sentence (execute?) criminals before they committed crimes then the police state could better assure public safety (absence of risk).

 

[Thoreau72]

Let's try it and see

It's not up to you or me. It's up to our illustrious leaders, our "elected representatives" who have us in Year 17 of a perpetual war brought with lies and deception.

Like so many "elected representatives" in the history of mankind, they have done a very poor job. I don't trust them as far as I can throw them, but I do recognize that there are a few good men and women up there, but the system is stacked against them and rotten to the core.

 

[snakestretcher]

Yep, if only we could sentence (execute?) criminals before they committed crimes then the police state could better assure public safety (absence of risk).

Perhaps if you took the common-sense approach and banned guns the incidence of mass-shootings would pale into insignificance; just as in every other advanced nation with stringent firearm legislation which enacted laws after experiencing the sort of massacres America seems to find perfectly normal. And please, spare me 'they'll just find another weapon', or, 'swimming pools kill'. I've heard all the excuses.

 

[haymarket]

Yep, if only we could sentence (execute?) criminals before they committed crimes then the police state could better assure public safety (absence of risk).

I saw that movie. Didn't it star Tom Cruise?

 

[ttwtt78640]

Perhaps if you took the common-sense approach and banned guns the incidence of mass-shootings would pale into insignificance; just as in every other advanced nation with stringent firearm legislation which enacted laws after experiencing the sort of massacres America seems to find perfectly normal. And please, spare me 'they'll just find another weapon', or, 'swimming pools kill'. I've heard all the excuses.

Yep, freedom is the root cause of crime - if only freedom (of the law abiding) could be restricted enough (via gun and knife bans?) then violent crime would cease to be a problem.

 

[ttwtt78640]

I saw that movie. Didn't it star Tom Cruise?

Beats me - maybe we should try the "A Clockwork Orange" approach?

 

[3leftsdoo]

You certainly like hyperbole and melodrama, I'll give you that. Have you considered taking up acting?

Hey - I'm Brad Pitt; I played a cop in Seven.

Tragic facts about the bloody, acid-stained streets of England:

- Fatal stabbings are at a SEVENTY YEAR HIGH.

- There's a stabbing EVERY FOUR MINUTES. (The >official< stats say "only" every 12 minutes - :shock: - but that's still a staggering humanitarian crisis.)

- Acid attacks have tripled to nearly THREE PER DAY, or ONE EVERY EIGHT HOURS.

And what are many fine Hinglishmen doing about it?

Denying that the crisis is real.

:damn

 

[3leftsdoo]

40,000 deaths is a speck to you.


Wow....just wow

That's forty thousand stabbings - >officially< - not all of them fatal, though fatal stabbings ARE at a seventy year high in England.

The reality is that it's over one hundred thousand, or a stabbing every four minutes.

But that's a speck to you?

Wow.

Just wow.

 

[3leftsdoo]

Apparently mass-shootings, according to that poster, are "incredibly rare" and barely worth mentioning.

Genuine mass shooting in the US are indeed INCREDIBLY rare.

Stabbings in England?

A sad humanitarian crisis, with one occurring every FOUR minutes.

 

[snakestretcher]

Genuine mass shooting in the US are indeed INCREDIBLY rare.

Stabbings in England?

A sad humanitarian crisis, with one occurring every FOUR minutes.

Keep believing the lies and rubbish you spew and I, and most normal people on this forum who aren't wearing denialist blinders, will continue to call you out. More mass shootings than days in 2019, so far, is not "incredibly rare" by any standards, except yours alone. One stabbing "every four minutes"? Where, and show me your evidence. No, tabloid newspapers will not be accepted. And what is a "genuine mass-shooting"? Are you suggesting there are fake mass-shootings where people don't die?

 

[3leftsdoo]

Perhaps if you took the common-sense approach and banned guns the incidence of mass-shootings would pale into insignificance; just as in every other advanced nation with stringent firearm legislation which enacted laws after experiencing the sort of massacres America seems to find perfectly normal. And please, spare me 'they'll just find another weapon', or, 'swimming pools kill'. I've heard all the excuses.

England is experiencing a SEVENTY YEAR high in fatal stabbings, and a stabbing every FOUR minutes.

Is it happening because the English can't be bothered to address it?

How many more children must be stabbed to death before common sense knife control is enacted?

Acid attacks?

They've TRIPLED.

An absolute crisis.