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article said:A Montana judge has come under fire after handing down a 30-day sentence to a former high school teacher convicted of raping a 14-year-old student and for making statements in court that the victim was "older than her chronological age" and "as much in control of the situation" as her teacher.
Its **** like this why I support mandatory sentencing. This is a slam dunk case, the judge should have thrown the book at him.Not go oh the girl is a hoe so I will give the rapist a slap on the wrist.
Judge under fire for rape sentence, implying victim was promiscuous - CNN.com
Allen further claimed that the victim had agreed to have sex with Young, just not on campus, and "upon making this bad judgment, he admitted that he proceeded over her objections to stop, and he admitted that to the police."
Gee I dunno about this one. I know as I'm sure all of us are that at that age both male and female our hormones are raging and we are NOT in control. Hell, we barely know anything about sex, and what we do know usually comes from peers who are equally ignorant, or the internet which is full of the "wrong kind of sexual message".
The kid seemed to admit his guilt,
but in the judges opinion there was some culpability on the part of the victim, and why not. This whole narrative about women/girls not being responsible for unwanted advances is a diluted circumstantial argument. There are several ways in which a young lady (even if she says no) can avoid putting themselves in these kinds of situations, and sadly that is not reinforced by parents, and or schools often enough. The youth culture today is very reminiscent of the culture of the 60's. Free love, I can do whatever I want and shame.. What shame, what is shame should I feel it. Girl's that lost their virginity when I was a teenage were shamed, shunned and outcasts. Today, they are even celebrated by our media, and pop-culture. We have no coherent message from the adults in charge as to how we should behave when young adults.
The judge, judged this one as she saw it. Without knowing the full details of the testimony it seems disingenuous to form a static opinion on the circumstances surrounding this particular even.
t. If the guy was an adult, and the girl a teenager my opinion would be more staunch in favor of harsher penalties, but in this case, although still light on sentencing, I am willing to defer to the people that were in the room.
The only time I wouldn't sympathize at all with a rape victim is in the case of prostitution.
Irrelevant.This is a rape case.
He didn't "seem" to admit his guilt.He actually did admitted to it.
Whether or not the girl was promiscuous with other individuals at some other point in time irrelevant in his this case due to the fact the rapist admitted the girl said no. This isn't a he said she said case where the girl is saying he raped her and the guy is saying no he didn't rape her and they are trying to see who is more trustworthy as to whose testimony should be believed over the other.
The judge is a ****en twit who has no business being a judge.
18 years old is an adult.
Judge under fire for rape sentence, implying victim was promiscuous - CNN.com
"What we have here is an 18-year-old high school student who was very talented, very gifted," Allen said, adding that Young had scholarship offers from a "couple of universities."
What do you care?
What do you care?
You are already on record stating that politics are more important than allegations of rape, sexual assault, and sexual harassment.
In the thread where you readily admitted you dont CARE about what brought about the allegations and revelations re Clinton/Lewinsky. Like I said in THAT thread...THATS going to be the comical dance and bi-product of blindly supporting people that knowingly lie to cover instances of rape, sexual assault, and sexual harassment and willful destruction of anyone and everyone EXCEPT the guy that was perpetrating the deeds.That's just crazy Where did you come up with that
What do you care?
You are already on record stating that politics are more important than allegations of rape, sexual assault, and sexual harassment.
Can a prostitute not get raped?
They can, I simply have no sympathy. Do not misunderstand me.
Watching this on CNN right now and one of the commentators - Sunny Hostin, a former prosecutor of sexual offenders - felt the sentence was right. She cited the fact that the kid admitted his guilt the day of the incident and was apparently contrite. She also noted that registering as a sex offender for the rest of one's life is a pretty harsh punishment in and of itself.
She also thought the community service at a rape crisis center was sensible and likened it to drunk drivers being forced to confront victims of drunk driving.
I don't often agree with her and while I'm not sure about the last she seems on target otherwise.
Gee I dunno about this one. I know as I'm sure all of us are that at that age both male and female our hormones are raging and we are NOT in control. Hell, we barely know anything about sex, and what we do know usually comes from peers who are equally ignorant, or the internet which is full of the "wrong kind of sexual message". The kid seemed to admit his guilt, but in the judges opinion there was some culpability on the part of the victim, and why not. This whole narrative about women/girls not being responsible for unwanted advances is a diluted circumstantial argument. There are several ways in which a young lady (even if she says no) can avoid putting themselves in these kinds of situations, and sadly that is not reinforced by parents, and or schools often enough. The youth culture today is very reminiscent of the culture of the 60's. Free love, I can do whatever I want and shame.. What shame, what is shame should I feel it. Girl's that lost their virginity when I was a teenage were shamed, shunned and outcasts. Today, they are even celebrated by our media, and pop-culture. We have no coherent message from the adults in charge as to how we should behave when young adults.
The judge, judged this one as she saw it. Without knowing the full details of the testimony it seems disingenuous to form a static opinion on the circumstances surrounding this particular event. If the guy was an adult, and the girl a teenager my opinion would be more staunch in favor of harsher penalties, but in this case, although still light on sentencing, I am willing to defer to the people that were in the room.
Tim-
Gee I dunno about this one. I know as I'm sure all of us are that at that age both male and female our hormones are raging and we are NOT in control. Hell, we barely know anything about sex, and what we do know usually comes from peers who are equally ignorant, or the internet which is full of the "wrong kind of sexual message". The kid seemed to admit his guilt, but in the judges opinion there was some culpability on the part of the victim, and why not. This whole narrative about women/girls not being responsible for unwanted advances is a diluted circumstantial argument. There are several ways in which a young lady (even if she says no) can avoid putting themselves in these kinds of situations, and sadly that is not reinforced by parents, and or schools often enough. The youth culture today is very reminiscent of the culture of the 60's. Free love, I can do whatever I want and shame.. What shame, what is shame should I feel it. Girl's that lost their virginity when I was a teenage were shamed, shunned and outcasts. Today, they are even celebrated by our media, and pop-culture. We have no coherent message from the adults in charge as to how we should behave when young adults.
The judge, judged this one as she saw it. Without knowing the full details of the testimony it seems disingenuous to form a static opinion on the circumstances surrounding this particular event. If the guy was an adult, and the girl a teenager my opinion would be more staunch in favor of harsher penalties, but in this case, although still light on sentencing, I am willing to defer to the people that were in the room.
Tim-
http://www.debatepolitics.com/break...nsky-breaks-her-silence-4.html#post1063244700Where did you come up with your claims Vance? Please demonstrate.
How, by not going to school? Why the hell should girls have to worry about getting raped at school? Your blame the victim mentality makes me sick.There are several ways in which a young lady (even if she says no) can avoid putting themselves in these kinds of situations,
Gee I dunno about this one. I know as I'm sure all of us are that at that age both male and female our hormones are raging and we are NOT in control. Hell, we barely know anything about sex, and what we do know usually comes from peers who are equally ignorant, or the internet which is full of the "wrong kind of sexual message". The kid seemed to admit his guilt, but in the judges opinion there was some culpability on the part of the victim, and why not. This whole narrative about women/girls not being responsible for unwanted advances is a diluted circumstantial argument. There are several ways in which a young lady (even if she says no) can avoid putting themselves in these kinds of situations, and sadly that is not reinforced by parents, and or schools often enough. The youth culture today is very reminiscent of the culture of the 60's. Free love, I can do whatever I want and shame.. What shame, what is shame should I feel it. Girl's that lost their virginity when I was a teenage were shamed, shunned and outcasts. Today, they are even celebrated by our media, and pop-culture. We have no coherent message from the adults in charge as to how we should behave when young adults.
The judge, judged this one as she saw it. Without knowing the full details of the testimony it seems disingenuous to form a static opinion on the circumstances surrounding this particular event. If the guy was an adult, and the girl a teenager my opinion would be more staunch in favor of harsher penalties, but in this case, although still light on sentencing, I am willing to defer to the people that were in the room.
Tim-
How, by not going to school? Why the hell should girls have to worry about getting raped at school? Your blame the victim mentality makes me sick.
The guy is a ****ing scumbag who raped a 14 year old girl at school. He deserves the death penalty IMO.
And the judge is a typical idiot coddle the criminal and blame the victim Democrat.
Dallas is not even close to being a conservative community. And the judge is a typical liberal Democrat.Not bizarre. Typical for konservative communities.
Wrong! Quit letting the lamestream media brainwash you into thinking there is a Republican "war on women". It's a totally fictitious mantra meant to brainwash the gullible. Don't drink the kool-aid.It is laughable that you think it is typical of Democrats to be anti-Woman in matters of rape, when it is Republicans who have repeatedly expressed the anti-Woman rationales that this Judge used. She just happens to be a Democrat. Get real.
It most certainly is about politics. The judge is a typical big city Democrat who believes in coddling the most heinous violent sociopaths to leave room for victimless "criminals" like pot smokers who have harmed nobody in the prison system.This isn't about politics.
http://www.debatepolitics.com/break...nsky-breaks-her-silence-4.html#post1063244700
Face it...you guys have three years of this staring at you. You cant have it both ways.
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What do you care?
You are already on record stating that politics are more important than allegations of rape, sexual assault, and sexual harassment.
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