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Judge sides with Florida’s Rick Scott, cites ‘violation’ of state constitution by election officials

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Judge sides with Florida’s Rick Scott, cites ‘violation’ of state constitution by election officials
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ju...n-of-state-constitution-by-election-officials

QUOTE: "A state judge on Friday sided with Florida Republican Rick Scott in ordering that Republicans be granted “immediate” access to requested information about ballots in Broward County, amid explosive lawsuits against the county’s top election official.

In their lawsuit against Broward, Scott – the Republican gubernatorial incumbent narrowly leading in the state's race for a U.S. Senate seat -- and the National Republican Senatorial Committee (NRSC) allege that officials there are hiding critical information about the number of votes cast and counted.

In an emergency court hearing on Friday afternoon, state Judge Carol-Lisa Phillips ruled there has “been a violation of the Florida constitution,” as well as the state’s public records act, by not turning over requested records.

Phillips ordered Broward County Supervisor of Elections Brenda Snipes to allow for the “immediate inspection” and “photocopying” of the requested records no later than 7 p.m. Friday.

It comes as Scott has warned of possibly “rampant fraud,” two heavily Democratic counties continue to report new votes, and three top races in the state appear headed for recounts.

Scott's emergency complaint accused Snipes, the Broward County supervisor of elections, of being "unwilling to disclose records revealing how many electors voted, how many ballots have been canvassed, and how many ballots remain to be canvassed," and charges that the uncertainty "raises substantial concerns about the validity of the election process"......" (SNIP)
 

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The leftwing mobs only know how to lie, cheat and steal
 

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Looks like they put the corrupt Broward bitch in the corner.
 

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Looks like they put the corrupt Broward bitch in the corner.

it is always that county.
I so like that out of no where 80k ballots are just found.

WTH.

no other county had that happen. same with palm beach just tens of thousands of ballots are just found.
laying around.

the courts are right. i see this ending in another bush v gore.

even though Nelson has already conceeded the race.
so did gillum
 
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"We expect the supervisors, regardless of their party affiliation, will discharge their constitutional duties," said Marc Elias, an election lawyer representing the Nelson campaign."

https://www.floridatoday.com/story/news/2018/11/07/election-results-rick-scott-recount/1917570002/

Now, for those who don't know....

"Marc Erik Elias (born February 1, 1969)[SUP][1][/SUP] is an American attorney. He is a partner at the law firm Perkins Coie LLP and head of its Political Law practice. He was the general counsel for Hillary Clinton's 2016 presidential campaign and for John Kerry's 2004 presidential campaign."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_Elias

"He served as lead counsel for Senator Al Franken in the 2008 Minnesota Senate election recount and contest, the largest recount and contest in American history.[SUP][6][/SUP] "

So, no funny business going on there right liberals? Yeah right....:roll:
 

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After the 2000 swindle in the election of Potus by Florida elections officials and Clarence Thomas et al the Republicans across the country might need to settle down from their propaganda hysteria...


Something Very Odd Happened With Broward County’s Ballots in the Florida Senate Election

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Democratic election lawyer Marc Elias told the Sun Sentinel that he thinks the undervotes were due to voting machines not detecting genuine votes. “I am pretty confident what you are going to see are markings that were not picked up by the machines or a calibration issue that was not registering that part of the ballot,” he said.

On Friday, there was more evidence showing that the design of the ballot in Broward County could explain why the Senate race—and thus Nelson—got proportionally fewer votes than they did in the rest of the state. The Sun Sentinel reported, “More than 24,900 Broward residents voted for Florida governor but not for U.S. senator,” and that the pattern of fewer votes in the Senate race than in lower-profile statewide races “appears in no other major Florida county.”

The reason for the vote gap could be that Broward put the Senate race below the instructions for filling out the ballot in the far left column, which violates established best practices for ballot design, according to experts cited by the Sun Sentinel.


https://slate.com/news-and-politics...es-broward-county-bill-nelson-rick-scott.html


The kneejerk anger and impulsive fury is predictable given Republicans took a big hit nationally on Tuesday. The Trump Train in the US House went off the rails and straight into a swamp. As votes are counted in close races the blue wave continues to get bigger which is how these things happen. D's are up to a 35 seat House gain and counting. Lots of red House seats that normally go for the Republican by 20 points went for the Democrat by one percent or less. This is indeed how it happens as we're seeing in red Arizona and elsewhere. This is what Republicans are looking at in Florida too. We just don't know yet so let's keep some balance and perspective.
 

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After the 2000 swindle in the election of Potus by Florida elections officials and Clarence Thomas et al the Republicans across the country might need to settle down from their propaganda hysteria...


Something Very Odd Happened With Broward County’s Ballots in the Florida Senate Election

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Democratic election lawyer Marc Elias told the Sun Sentinel that he thinks the undervotes were due to voting machines not detecting genuine votes. “I am pretty confident what you are going to see are markings that were not picked up by the machines or a calibration issue that was not registering that part of the ballot,” he said.

On Friday, there was more evidence showing that the design of the ballot in Broward County could explain why the Senate race—and thus Nelson—got proportionally fewer votes than they did in the rest of the state. The Sun Sentinel reported, “More than 24,900 Broward residents voted for Florida governor but not for U.S. senator,” and that the pattern of fewer votes in the Senate race than in lower-profile statewide races “appears in no other major Florida county.”

The reason for the vote gap could be that Broward put the Senate race below the instructions for filling out the ballot in the far left column, which violates established best practices for ballot design, according to experts cited by the Sun Sentinel.


https://slate.com/news-and-politics...es-broward-county-bill-nelson-rick-scott.html


The kneejerk anger and impulsive fury is predictable given Republicans took a big hit nationally on Tuesday. The Trump Train in the US House went off the rails and straight into a swamp. As votes are counted in close races the blue wave continues to get bigger which is how these things happen. D's are up to a 35 seat House gain and counting. Lots of red House seats that normally go for the Republican by 20 points went for the Democrat by one percent or less. This is indeed how it happens as we're seeing in red Arizona and elsewhere. This is what Republicans are looking at in Florida too. We just don't know yet so let's keep some balance and perspective.

Then it was their own fault for using improper ballots.
those ballots should have been tested through.
 

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Then it was their own fault for using improper ballots.
those ballots should have been tested through.

That's more reasonable to say or claim.

It contrasts directly with posters who are accusing a Democratic party lawyer of being, well, a Democratic party lawyer. The right hasn't started rounding up D party lawyers yet to dump into stadiums but who knows. The right is saying too that a judge in AZ they don't like is unethical while leaning heavily on the FL judge who made what is likely to be a normative ruling.

The question of the odd undervote in the FL Senate race remains open at this point. We'll see about the Broward ballots in question through public scrutiny.
 

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Extra votes found in storage area of an elementary school in heavily dem broward cty yesterday.
More than likely those were provisional ballots. They always go to the trash eventually, and are never counted.
That is unless they are needed for the dems to win.
Democrats have been stealing elections since the days of Tammany Hall in the 1850s,
and now it looks like they've added stuffing the ballot AFTER an election to their repertoire.

We are witnessing the biggest voter fraud sting operation in history.
I understand Snipes asked Jim Acosta to hold on to some of the ballots.
I hear he's got a vise-like grip.
 

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Only two heavily Democratic precincts can't follow the rules in Florida
 

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Broward County, Florida: assholes who can't count votes and cowardly County LEOs.
 

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Extra votes found in storage area of an elementary school in heavily dem broward cty yesterday.
More than likely those were provisional ballots. They always go to the trash eventually, and are never counted.
That is unless they are needed for the dems to win.
Democrats have been stealing elections since the days of Tammany Hall in the 1850s,
and now it looks like they've added stuffing the ballot AFTER an election to their repertoire.

We are witnessing the biggest voter fraud sting operation in history.
I understand Snipes asked Jim Acosta to hold on to some of the ballots.
I hear he's got a vise-like grip.

Magically appearing ballots. Something stinks, and it's coming from Broward County.
 

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I'll wait for actual proof of rampant fraud.

We hear this every election but studies and final reports show it is extremely rare.
 

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Palm beach county refuses to follow a court order to provide the Scott campaign with the total numbers of votes cast. There are 67 counties in Florida and Bourad and Palm Beach are the only two that consistently have problems following Florida voter law. Even the panhandle of Florida that just suffered a massive hurricane damage a month ago followed the law. 90 thousand votes have magically showed up in Bourad and Palm Beach county.
 
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I'll wait for actual proof of rampant fraud.

We hear this every election but studies and final reports show it is extremely rare.

reports conducted by people with self interested motives. the political fallout of admitting there was systemic fraud in a major close election would be unbearable and so it's far easier to turn a blind eye. In this case we have an election official who is pretty much violating every law that was passed to prevent an environment where fraud is possible, so you can't claim it's not occuring is a self interested one.
 

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As the Right likes to chant in its mantras, get back to us when you have specific and concrete charges, evidence and actual legal activity by LEA investigators...


But so far, no one crying foul has produced any evidence that Snipes or anyone in her office is fabricating ballots in these midterms. On the contrary, the Florida Department of Law Enforcement said Scott never made an official request to investigate voter fraud, and added it had no reports of any illegal activity. Neither had the state’s Division of Elections, which weeks ago sent two observers to Broward to watch the elections process at Scott’s request.

Democrats, on the other hand, alleged voter disenfranchisement. Attorneys for Nelson conferenced with a federal judge in Tallahassee Friday afternoon hoping to preserve thousands of absentee and provisional ballots rejected due to discrepancies in signatures. The case remains alive, but the judge declined to extend the noon Saturday deadline for supervisors to submit their unofficial results to the state.

“This is a feature, not a flaw, of our Democratic system,” Nelson attorney Marc Elias said of the state’s ballot-counting and looming recount process. Elias, on a conference call with reporters, ripped Scott for asking a state agency to investigate the counting of ballots in a race in which he’s running. “This is not a third-world dictatorship. We don’t let people seize ballots when they think they’re losing.”

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/po...ticle221439325.html#storylink=readmore_inline


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Brenda Snipes should have handed over the information when legally ordered to. And the republicans should allow ALL VOTES TO BE COUNTED. Right now all I've read is that a dangerous mob of republicans have descended on the election office and threatening to kill Brenda Snipes. Snipes should hand over the information and Rick Scott should stop inciting his mob to commit violence.
 

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Calm down over there plse thx.

This is a normal wave election. When the challenger wins it's by something like one percent or by half that. When the party that's on the hook wins, i.e., Republicans, it's not by ten percent. In year 2000 for instance Republicans won by a very close vote of 5-4. And in that election nine voters got to vote twice, once in their home precinct and once at the office.


POLITICS / 2018 MIDTERM ELECTIONS

Here Are The Big Midterm Election Races That Are Still Undecided

Somehow, the midterms aren’t over — there are a handful of big Senate and gubernatorial races that are still too close to call.


Three Senate races:

Election Results
Arizona US Senate General Election
1,483 of 1,489 (99.6%) precincts reporting, 1,910,971 votes counted
Updated Nov 10, 2018, 7:57 pm
Candidate Votes Percent
(D)
Kyrsten Sinema
937,500 49.1%
(R)
Martha McSally
929,244 48.6%
(I)
Angela Green
44,227 2.3%
Source: Decision Desk HQ


In Montana, incumbent Democrat Jon Tester is running neck and neck with Republican Matt Rosendale, with less than 2,000 votes separating the two. Tens of thousands of votes remained to be counted as of Wednesday morning, KRTV reported. (Update: On Wednesday the AP called the race for Tester.)

Election Results
Montana US Senate General Election
682 of 682 (100.0%) precincts reporting, 491,245 votes counted
Updated Nov 10, 2018, 7:57 pm
Candidate Votes Percent
(D)
Jon Tester
246,291 50.1%
(R)
Matt Rosendale
230,973 47.0%
(I)
Rick Breckenridge
13,981 2.8%
Source: Decision Desk HQ


In Florida, Republican Rick Scott is running ahead of incumbent Democrat Bill Nelson by a margin of slightly over 50,000 votes. Scott claimed victory on Tuesday night, but Nelson’s campaign said it was waiting for all the votes to be counted (Decision Desk HQ has called the race for Scott). But the closeness of the race — more than 8 million votes were cast — may trigger an automatic recount; that would mean manual vote counting and close scrutiny of “overseas and military ballots, provisional ballots and vote by mail ballots that have defects such as a missing or non-matching signature,” the Miami Herald reported.

Election Results
Florida US Senate General Election
6,007 of 6,007 (100.0%) precincts reporting, 8,173,848 votes counted
Updated Nov 10, 2018, 7:57 pm
Candidate Votes Percent
(R)
Rick Scott
4,094,474 50.1%
(D)
Bill Nelson
4,079,374 49.9%
Source: Decision Desk HQ
One governor’s race is still in play:

In Georgia, Republican Brian Kemp has a two-point lead over Democrat Stacey Abrams. Abrams did not concede the race on Tuesday night, and her campaign told CNN that it expects at least 77,000 more votes to be counted from Democrat-leaning districts. If Kemp ends up with less than 50% of the total vote (he currently has 50.6%) then Georgia law would require a runoff election between the two candidates.



There are still a number of House seats to be declared. Among them:

In California, where a bunch of races have yet to be called, Republican incumbent Dana Rohrabacher is running a little under 3,000 votes behind Democratic challenger Harley Rouda in the 48th District.

In Georgia's 6th District, in what could be one of the biggest upsets of the election, Democratic challenger Lucy McBath has a lead of fewer than 2,000 votes over incumbent Republican Karen Handel. (Update: On Thursday morning, McBath declared victory and Handel conceded.)


And in Maine, US election history could be made in a race where the candidates are currently separated by less than 200 votes: With both incumbent Republican Bruce Poliquin and Democratic challenger Jared Golden both hovering around 45% of the vote, the state’s new ranked-choice congressional voting system — the first of its kind in the nation — could be used to decide the race.

The system lets voters rank candidates in order, rather than just tick a box for one of them, and if no candidate secures more than 50% of the vote, people's second choice votes come into play. Such systems are used in democracies around the world, but it would be the first time such a vote has elected someone to the US Congress.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/tomgara/midterm-election-races-undecided
 
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T
he analogy was perfect:

QUOTE: "......Voting after the polls have closed has captured the attention of the entire country. Voting after the polls have closed. That’s what’s going on. Voting is still going on! When you’re looking for ballots, when you’re saying count every vote, that means you’re looking for ballots, you’re looking for more votes.

And the schoolteacher down in Miramar found a box of ’em. If it works in Florida, why not the NFL? For example, if your team loses in the NFL, why not say, “Wait a minute. We need to extend the game because the referees blew a bunch of calls in this game.” “We need 10 more minutes,” says the losing team. What would people’s reaction be? “You can’t. We have rules. You can’t do that. You lost.” How about if jurors did it after every jury reaches a verdict?

How about the defendant says, “You know, what? I don’t like. I lost. I want a new jury. Bring in a new jury.” How cool would it be for convict murderers to get a new jury after having been found guilty? (interruption) What do you mean, what’s…? (interruption) Of course it would never happen. But why does happen in our elections? “But, Rush! But, Rush! They haven’t been certified.” Exactly. They haven’t been certified because the left still says there are votes out there to be found and they keep finding votes in schoolrooms and trunks of cars
....."

source link
 

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Brenda Snipes should have handed over the information when legally ordered to. And the republicans should allow ALL VOTES TO BE COUNTED. Right now all I've read is that a dangerous mob of republicans have descended on the election office and threatening to kill Brenda Snipes. Snipes should hand over the information and Rick Scott should stop inciting his mob to commit violence.

How is Rick Scott doing that, by insisting on a fair election and calling out those who openly flaut election law and come up with boxes and boxes of uncounted ballots and saying, "oops, we forgot to count these"?
 

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T
he analogy was perfect:

QUOTE: "......Voting after the polls have closed has captured the attention of the entire country. Voting after the polls have closed. That’s what’s going on. Voting is still going on! When you’re looking for ballots, when you’re saying count every vote, that means you’re looking for ballots, you’re looking for more votes.

And the schoolteacher down in Miramar found a box of ’em. If it works in Florida, why not the NFL? For example, if your team loses in the NFL, why not say, “Wait a minute. We need to extend the game because the referees blew a bunch of calls in this game.” “We need 10 more minutes,” says the losing team. What would people’s reaction be? “You can’t. We have rules. You can’t do that. You lost.” How about if jurors did it after every jury reaches a verdict?

How about the defendant says, “You know, what? I don’t like. I lost. I want a new jury. Bring in a new jury.” How cool would it be for convict murderers to get a new jury after having been found guilty? (interruption) What do you mean, what’s…? (interruption) Of course it would never happen. But why does happen in our elections? “But, Rush! But, Rush! They haven’t been certified.” Exactly. They haven’t been certified because the left still says there are votes out there to be found and they keep finding votes in schoolrooms and trunks of cars
....."

source link

People shouldn't be watching the NFL. I put my money where my mouth was. I quit cold turkey and I ain't goin back.
 

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Brenda Snipes should have handed over the information when legally ordered to. And the republicans should allow ALL VOTES TO BE COUNTED. Right now all I've read is that a dangerous mob of republicans have descended on the election office and threatening to kill Brenda Snipes. Snipes should hand over the information and Rick Scott should stop inciting his mob to commit violence.

Snipes is in an elected position its the voters own fault if their votes don't get counted due to malfeasance or incompetence on Snipes part. We can't have 65 counties following the rules and two heavily democrat counties not following the rules. That gives them an unfair advantage. That is not equal application of the law.

Any counting should ALWAYS be done with observers from all sides.

It's not the people who vote that count. It's the people who count the votes." Joeseph Stalin
 

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As the Right likes to chant in its mantras, get back to us when you have specific and concrete charges, evidence and actual legal activity by LEA investigators...


But so far, no one crying foul has produced any evidence that Snipes or anyone in her office is fabricating ballots in these midterms. On the contrary, the Florida Department of Law Enforcement said Scott never made an official request to investigate voter fraud, and added it had no reports of any illegal activity. Neither had the state’s Division of Elections, which weeks ago sent two observers to Broward to watch the elections process at Scott’s request.

Democrats, on the other hand, alleged voter disenfranchisement. Attorneys for Nelson conferenced with a federal judge in Tallahassee Friday afternoon hoping to preserve thousands of absentee and provisional ballots rejected due to discrepancies in signatures. The case remains alive, but the judge declined to extend the noon Saturday deadline for supervisors to submit their unofficial results to the state.

“This is a feature, not a flaw, of our Democratic system,” Nelson attorney Marc Elias said of the state’s ballot-counting and looming recount process. Elias, on a conference call with reporters, ripped Scott for asking a state agency to investigate the counting of ballots in a race in which he’s running. “This is not a third-world dictatorship. We don’t let people seize ballots when they think they’re losing.”

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/po...ticle221439325.html#storylink=readmore_inline


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well it's kind of hard to prove when the elections official in question flagrantly violates the law and destroys evidence, in fact has been convicted of said.
 
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