Josh Duggar (of TLC's 19 Kids and Counting) admits to molesting.... [W:171,357]

[americanwoman]

As to whether the Duggars are politically influencing things I just found the dad was a state representative. So will people still deny their political influence?

Jim Bob Duggar. James Robert "Jim Bob" Duggar (born July 18, 1965) is an American real estate agent, politician, and television personality on the now suspended reality series 19 Kids and Counting. He served in the Arkansas House of Representatives (1999-2002)

Jim Bob Duggar - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[nota bene]

I haven't been keeping up with the Duggars, but has Jim Bob been politically active locally or on the state level since 2002?

 

[nota bene]

The Duggars are on Megyn Kelly's show on Fox right now.

I watched the rerun later last night and was glad that I did. I was satisfied by what they said about the steps they took, including professional counseling for their kids and so on. They seemed very sincere and thoughtful to me.

 

[sangha]

I watched the rerun later last night and was glad that I did. I was satisfied by what they said about the steps they took, including professional counseling for their kids and so on. They seemed very sincere and thoughtful to me.

I just started watching it right now on YouTube, and it starts out with Jim Bob telling a lie. When asked about how he reacted when he first found out, he says that Josh came to him on his own and confessed

The truth is that one of his daughters came to him after witnessing Josh sneaking into the bedroom and molesting her sisters

on edit: now Michelle is repeating that lie.

 

[nota bene]

I saw probably the last 20 minutes of the rerun last night.

 

[tres borrachos]

I watched the rerun later last night and was glad that I did. I was satisfied by what they said about the steps they took, including professional counseling for their kids and so on. They seemed very sincere and thoughtful to me.

I watched it when it was on. Interesting. I don't really care for either Michelle or Jim Bob (I find them to be very annoying) but it was worth a watch because a lot came out that I didn't know. According to them they did take Josh and the girls to professional counseling with certified counselors/therapists whatever. It was also interesting when they talked about how they asked the sisters and the sisters didn't realize anything had happened to them. But it sounds like this happened quite a few times over time. I think Josh was a very disturbed boy.

They were sincere IMO. I can't imagine being in that position that they were. They may not have handled it the way I would but I'm lucky and so far haven't had something like this happen to my kids.

I thought Megyn did a good job. She wasn't soft on them.

But what broke my heart was the end and them showing Jill & Jessa who I guess will be on again on Friday? One just had a baby and the other is pregnant. Their names being dragged out in public and people talking about them and all of it, I feel so sorry for them. And I do agree with Jim Bob that whoever leaked this needs to pay. It may have satisfied some craving that person had to destroy the religious parents and son, but the real victims here are the daughters.

 

[sangha]

Jim Bob just said that they talked to other parents and that "a lot of people have said they've had similar things happen in their families"!!!!!!

 

[americanwoman]

I haven't been keeping up with the Duggars, but has Jim Bob been politically active locally or on the state level since 2002?

Duggar and his wife endorsed Mike Huckabee in 2008 during his campaign for the Republican Party presidential primaries.[SUP][40][/SUP] In January 2012, the Duggars endorsed former Republican U.S. Senator Rick Santorum for president.[SUP][41][/SUP] In October 2013, the Duggar family began campaigning for Ken Cuccinelli, the unsuccessful Republican gubernatorial candidate in Virginia.

Seems to be atleast keeping their names out there endorsing and openly campaigning or candidates.


Not every family is perfect and I've always liked the Duggars but it's jus a bad situation here.

 

[tres borrachos]

I haven't been keeping up with the Duggars, but has Jim Bob been politically active locally or on the state level since 2002?

Like all celebrities they lend their names and their opinions to causes, if that's considered "politically active". They also do appearances (and probably monetary donations) for causes like pro-life, and all that. But Jim Bob hasn't held a political office in over 12 years.

 

[nota bene]

Jim Bob just said that they talked to other parents and that "a lot of people have said they've had similar things happen in their families"!!!!!!

I don't recall the word "similar" being used, but I did hear Jim Bob Duggar make reference to other families having serious troubles and agreed with him. There are a lot of families with a pre-teen/young teen who has problems.

 

[americanwoman]

They dont just lend their names they actively campaign and participate.

Josh Duggar and Mike Huckabee: Duggars

The Duggars’ political connections run deep. While they are best known for their hit TLC show “19 Kids and Counting,” the family has spent years campaigning for Republican presidential, senatorial and gubernatorial candidates and have directly dabbled in politics.
Dad Jim Bob served in the Arkansas House of Representatives from 1999 to 2002, and in 2002 made an unsuccessful bid for a U.S. Senate seat, saying he was “called by God” to do so. Mom Michelle has made a name for herself (outside the show) as a social activist, and grabbed national headlines last year for being the voice of a robocall, asking residents of Fayetteville, Arkansas to protest an anti-discrimination city ordinance. She contended that “males with past child predator convictions that claim they are female to have a legal right to enter private areas that are reserved for women and girls.”
The kids, as they’ve gotten older, have also become fixtures on the political scene.
Josh Duggar, the eldest at 27, has been rather active in Republican politics, sharing photos of himself posing with presidential hopefuls.

 

[ThePlayDrive]

Jim Bob just said that they talked to other parents and that "a lot of people have said they've had similar things happen in their families"!!!!!!

That entire interview was a mess. Jim Bob is a piece of **** and the mother seems to just defer to him.

 

[Somerville]

That entire interview was a mess. Jim Bob is a piece of **** and the mother seems to just defer to him.

Her deference to her husband is a tenet of their religious beliefs

 

[ThePlayDrive]

Her deference to her husband is a tenet of their religious beliefs

Which also explains why they seemed more concerned about their son than their daughters the entire interview.

 

[sangha]

I don't recall the word "similar" being used, but I did hear Jim Bob Duggar make reference to other families having serious troubles and agreed with him. There are a lot of families with a pre-teen/young teen who has problems.

The words in quotation marks are a quote from Jim Bob. He not only used the word "similar" but later on in the interview he states that some of the stories from other families were "worse" than his.

 

[tres borrachos]

Which also explains why they seemed more concerned about their son than their daughters the entire interview.

Why do you say that? I saw the interview and I didn't get that impression. Why did you - was it something they said, or didn't say?

 

[Josie]

Which also explains why they seemed more concerned about their son than their daughters the entire interview.

For once, I agree with you.

 

[nota bene]

The words in quotation marks are a quote from Jim Bob. He not only used the word "similar" but later on in the interview he states that some of the stories from other families were "worse" than his.

Why do you have a problem with this statement?

 

[ThePlayDrive]

Why do you say that? I saw the interview and I didn't get that impression. Why did you - was it something they said, or didn't say?

They (especially Jim Bob) constantly minimized what Josh did, minimized its impact on their daughters and, when pressed by Megyn Kelly to directly address their daughter's feelings, completely deflected and went back to focusing on Josh again. They did not once acknowledge the effect that sexual abuse could have (and likely did have) on their daughters. Instead, they focused on saying that their daughters "didn't even know it had happened" and "Josh just touched most of them over their clothes". They also lied about several things in order to make themselves look better.

 

[tres borrachos]

They (especially Jim Bob) constantly minimized what Josh did, minimized its impact on their daughters and, when pressed by Megyn Kelly to directly address their daughter's feelings, completely deflected and went back to focusing on Josh again. They did not once acknowledge the effect that sexual abuse could have (and likely did have) on their daughters. Instead, they focused on saying that their daughters "didn't even know it had happened" and "Josh just touched most of them over their clothes". They also lied about several things in order to make themselves look better.

Okay, I missed Megyn Kelly pushing them on their daughters' feelings and them deflecting back to Josh. What did they say?

If they didn't think what Josh did to the girls may have had an effect on them, then why did they take their daughters to counseling?

I'm curious what you think they should have said about all of this, 13 years after it happened. If you were the parents of all of these kids, what would you say about it?

 

[ThePlayDrive]

Okay, I missed Megyn Kelly pushing them on their daughters' feelings and them deflecting back to Josh. What did they say?

If they didn't think what Josh did to the girls may have had an effect on them, then why did they take their daughters to counseling?

I'm curious what you think they should have said about all of this, 13 years after it happened. If you were the parents of all of these kids, what would you say about it?

1. After the parents kept talking about Josh, but not their daughter's, Kelly asked Jim Bob to specifically comment on how he felt looking at his 5-year-old know that Josh's behavior had been ongoing. Jim Bob ignored that question and instead talked (again) about how thankful he was Josh had come to him and how other families deal with worse things.

2. I don't know and considering that they outright lied several times in the interview, I don't know that they actually did get them professional counseling. I do now, however, that they repeatedly stated that the girls "probably didn't even know it happened" and that they "didn't understand it" whenever Kelly would ask them about how it affected the girls.

3. If I were the parent, I would have handled it completely differently so this wouldn't have even been a scandal. But if I were doing such an interview, I would have felt and showed a lot more empathy for my daughters and I would not have lied repeatedly.

 

[sangha]

2. I don't know and considering that they outright lied several times in the interview, I don't know that they actually did get them professional counseling. I do now, however, that they repeatedly stated that the girls "probably didn't even know it happened" and that they "didn't understand it" whenever Kelly would ask them about how it affected the girls.

After Oprah and an anonymous caller notified the authorities of the molestations, the police investigated. When the police found that the statute of limitations had passed, they referred the matter to Social Services. That's when the girls received "professional counseling"

IOW, the Duggars did not seek or even want their children to receive professional counseling - they were forced to get it (years after the molestation occurred)

 

[tres borrachos]

1. After the parents kept talking about Josh, but not their daughter's, Kelly asked Jim Bob to specifically comment on how he felt looking at his 5-year-old know that Josh's behavior had been ongoing. Jim Bob ignored that question and instead talked (again) about how thankful he was Josh had come to him and how other families deal with worse things.

2. I don't know and considering that they outright lied several times in the interview, I don't know that they actually did get them professional counseling. I do now, however, that they repeatedly stated that the girls "probably didn't even know it happened" and that they "didn't understand it" whenever Kelly would ask them about how it affected the girls.

3. If I were the parent, I would have handled it completely differently so this wouldn't have even been a scandal. But if I were doing such an interview, I would have felt and showed a lot more empathy for my daughters and I would not have lied repeatedly.

1. I didn't get quite that from the interview. Is this the part you're referring to?

KELLY: And we'll going to get to that in one second. The subsequent incidents after the first one involved daughters who were awake, at least a couple of them?

J. B. DUGGAR: There was a couple, yes. And they didn't really understand, though, what happened.

KELLY: Yes. What --

M. DUGGAR: It was more his heart, his intent. He knew that it was wrong. But in theirs they weren't even aware. They were like, you know, it wasn't -- to them they didn't probably even understand that it was an improper touch.

KELLY: I know that the ultimate one before you really got help involved a very young daughter, and I'll avoid the age because I don't want to identify anyone specifically, but a single digit. I mean, what was that like for you to hear? You know, one, you must have thought for some time this is a pubescent boy, I don't know what he's going through, but he's testing. But when it moves to a young daughter --

J. B. DUGGAR: Right. At that point, that's when we pulled him out of the house and we said, he can't be here. And so, we pulled him out and then, he went through working with that man --

KELLY: Yes. He goes through counseling.

2. What were the lies?

3. I also would have handled it differently as a parent, because I wouldn't send my kids to faith based healing. But I wouldn't have handled it differently so it "wouldn't even have been a scandal". Is that what would worry you as a parent - the scandal? Not the victims, or your son?

 

[ThePlayDrive]

1. I didn't get quite that from the interview. Is this the part you're referring to?

KELLY: And we'll going to get to that in one second. The subsequent incidents after the first one involved daughters who were awake, at least a couple of them?

J. B. DUGGAR: There was a couple, yes. And they didn't really understand, though, what happened.

KELLY: Yes. What --

M. DUGGAR: It was more his heart, his intent. He knew that it was wrong. But in theirs they weren't even aware. They were like, you know, it wasn't -- to them they didn't probably even understand that it was an improper touch.

KELLY: I know that the ultimate one before you really got help involved a very young daughter, and I'll avoid the age because I don't want to identify anyone specifically, but a single digit. I mean, what was that like for you to hear? You know, one, you must have thought for some time this is a pubescent boy, I don't know what he's going through, but he's testing. But when it moves to a young daughter --

J. B. DUGGAR: Right. At that point, that's when we pulled him out of the house and we said, he can't be here. And so, we pulled him out and then, he went through working with that man --

KELLY: Yes. He goes through counseling.

2. What were the lies?

3. I also would have handled it differently as a parent, because I wouldn't send my kids to faith based healing. But I wouldn't have handled it differently so it "wouldn't even have been a scandal". Is that what would worry you as a parent - the scandal? Not the victims, or your son?

1. No, I was talking about this part:

KELLY: I'm asking you more as the father of your girls than as the father of Josh. You know, it must have been very hard to look at your little one and know the behavior had been ongoing, as difficult as your position was.

J. B. DUGGAR: Right. I was so thankful, though, that Josh came and told us. And our girls, even though this was a very bad situation, as we've talked to other families who have had, you know, other things happen, a lot of their stories were even worse.

Source: Exclusive: The Duggars open up about molestation allegations on 'The Kelly File' | Fox News

2. Duggar Interview: 7 Crucial Facts They Didn

3. I literally said that I would have FELT and showed more EMPATHY for my daughters which makes your questions nonsensical. I can already tell that this is about to turn into a personal conversation so I'm going to let this be my last post. Take care.

 

[tres borrachos]

1. No, I was talking about this part:


2. Duggar Interview: 7 Crucial Facts They Didn

3. I literally said that I would have FELT and showed more EMPATHY for my daughters which makes your questions nonsensical. I can already tell that this is about to turn into a personal conversation so I'm going to let this be my last post. Take care.

You're offended because I used your own words? Okay.

Sorry, the In Touch Weekly list doesn't show any lies. By the way, his sisters (the ones you seem to think were screwed over by their parents) are being interviewed by Megyn Kelly tonight. If they say they don't think he molested them, and they don't remember anything, and they weren't hurt by what he did, and they believe their parents protected them, will you call them liars too?