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Josh Duggar Had Membership to Cheating Website Ashley Madison (Report)
19 Kids and Counting star Josh Duggar is among those who had a paid membership to the cheating website Ashley Madison, according to data published by Gawker. The affair service was the victim of a hack in July, with member information posted online.

According to Gawker, a credit card under the name Joshua J. Duggar was use to pay for an account. The address listed along with the card was that of the Fayetteville, Arkansas home his grandmother Mary owns. The residence was featured on 19 Kids and Counting, whichTLC canceled in July after Duggar admitted to having molested several underage girls years ago, including two of his sisters.
That credit card was used to purchase two different monthly Ashley Madison subscriptions, costing $986.76 from February 2013 to May 2015. He reportedly opened another account using his address in Oxon Hill, Maryland, where he lived when he was lobbying as part of his job as the executive director of the conservative Family Research Council. That account was registered in July 2014, and was paid monthly through May 2015.

Duggar resigned his role in Family Research Council in the wake of the molestation scandal. The organization fought against gay marriage and says its mission is "to champion marriage and family as the foundation of civilization."
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At least he's doing it with adults......this time
 
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Amazing how he claimed same-sex marriage devalued marriage when he was paying to cheat on his wife. The "family values" crowd is so predictable.
 
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You know there's something to be said about this guy that cheating on his wife isn't the worst thing he's done.
 
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ThePlayDrive said:
Amazing how he claimed same-sex marriage devalued marriage when he was paying to cheat on his wife. The "family values" crowd is so predictable.
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A number of the accounts allegedly had fake email addresses. But, it will be interesting to see who else in the U.S. pop up. A bunch of military email addresses showed up, as well as Vatican ones.
 
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RAMOSS said:
A number of the accounts allegedly had fake email addresses. But, it will be interesting to see who else in the U.S. pop up. A bunch of military email addresses showed up, as well as Vatican ones.
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There's more to this than just a fake email acct
a credit card under the name Joshua J. Duggar was use to pay for an account. The address listed along with the card was that of the Fayetteville, Arkansas home his grandmother Mary owns.
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RAMOSS said:
A number of the accounts allegedly had fake email addresses. But, it will be interesting to see who else in the U.S. pop up. A bunch of military email addresses showed up, as well as Vatican ones.
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I didn't hear about the Vatican ones. Wow.
 
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sangha said:
There's more to this than just a fake email acct
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I am sure that Josh is a real one. i am waiting to see if someone pulls a presidential candidate out of the hat.

Some email addresses were 'whitehouse.gov'.. But that domain is not valid for any email addresses.
 
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sangha said:
There's more to this than just a fake email acct
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Still, it's not confirmed Josh used the card to pay for the account.

Credit Card Fraud is not uncommon, once you have a number, and a residential address you can use someone else's card very easy.

it's also common for identity theives to mine data, if you have a name, and an identity thief wants it, coming up with your residential address or that of a close relative is not hard. in Wash because of a conservative leaning activist who wanted to rout out voting fraud there's even a searchable database of WA state voters.
Sound Politics Washington State Voter Database know someone's name? if they're registered to vote in WA you probably can get their address too.

you can easily come up with mine if you had my real name, which you could probably piece together based off of the stories and things I've said on this forum.

many banks sometimes issue cards without even pulling credit reports.

I'm not defending Josh per se, really I don't care if he's getting a glass of horizontal refreshment on the side, the abuse of minors was a far bigger deal then this will be.

however lets be aware, that many people who had nothing to do with Ashley Madison may very well be listed on the site and may be victims of identity theft or credit card fraud. maybe even blackmail.

lets face it, the smarter users of this site probably aren't using their identity or cards issued in their name,
 
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There's just a special delight when a holier-than-thou sanctimonious morality-maker takes a hit of this nature.
 
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EMNofSeattle said:
Still, it's not confirmed Josh used the card to pay for the account.
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I took a look at the data already. The credit card transaction dump is separated by month which shows the recurring transactions associated with Duggar's subscription. As sangha said, it contains all of Duggar's information.

He's been nailed.
 
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Give me them talibornagain family values!
 
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I read earlier that he actually had 2 separate accounts, and he had a laundry list of special types of sex that he was looking for. :lol:
 
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Superfly said:
I read earlier that he actually had 2 separate accounts, and he had a laundry list of special types of sex that he was looking for. :lol:
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yes, the article notes that he had 2 accts.
 
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SheWolf said:
He paid probably over $1,000 for Ashley Madison... :shock:

OMG. No way he didn't cheat on his wife. I can't imagine how his wife is going to react to this. :(
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He probably spent more then it woulda cost to go to Elko, Nev. And the house in Elko would've made sure his privacy was taken care of for a grand.
 
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Assuming this is actually true (I wouldn't put it past a bunch of agenda driven hackers to forge data, after all), it would appear that he's pretty clearly got some personal demons to work through. He's had them for quite some time, if his track record is any indication.

That's something I'm sorry to hear, and I wish his wife and family the best of luck therein. However, I can't really say that I care much about the issue besides that. One son of a small time celebrity family being outed as a philandering douche is ultimately just that - One son of a small time celebrity family being outed as a philandering douche.

If it weren't for his name and the (quite frankly, irrational) hysterics of earlier this year, no one would give a damn. It's not even like he's an especially important Conservative figurehead. He was a mere cog in the machine at best.

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He probably spent more then it woulda cost to go to Elko, Nev. And the house in Elko would've made sure his privacy was taken care of for a grand.
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No ****, right? What the Hell kind of weirdo even uses something like "AshleyMadison" to begin with? That's what I can't figure out.

The guy's 28, not ugly, reasonably affluent, can claim a certain degree of celebrity cred, and was working in a fairly prestigious position (in certain circles, anyway) as a political lobbyist. He couldn't have just found some starry eyed intern to bang on the side like all the rest of the D.C. bigwigs?

Hell! How hard is it to just line up a call girl? Why go to a paid site specifically meant for hooking up with other adulterous married people?

Fetish, I guess? :screwy
 
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Gathomas88 said:
Assuming this is actually true (I wouldn't put it past a bunch of agenda driven hackers to forge data, after all), it would appear that he's pretty clearly got some personal demons to work through. He's had them for quite some time, if his track record is any indication.

That's something I'm sorry to hear, and I wish his wife and family the best of luck therein. However, I can't really say that I care much about the issue besides that. One son of a small time celebrity family being outed as a philandering douche is ultimately just that - One son of a small time celebrity family being outed as a philandering douche.
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I dunno, quite a lot of high profile Christians who condemn anything but heterosexual marriage have been caught in these kinds of things: Jimmy Swaggart and Ted Haggard come to mind. ;)
 
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PoS said:
I dunno, quite a lot of high profile Christians who condemn anything but heterosexual marriage have been caught in these kinds of things: Jimmy Swaggart and Ted Haggard come to mind. ;)
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And how about the Clintons and Kennedys? Hell! Ted Kennedy seems to have straight up murdered a girl he was almost certainly screwing on the side, and the Clintons basically seem to have been living a sham marriage for political purposes for the last several decades.

Pound for pound, no. I don't think Conservative Christians are worse than the other side of the aisle. The opposite is most likely the case, in point of fact.

Christians just take more crap for it when they do fall, because they hold themselves to a higher standard to begin with.

The real problem here is, and pretty much always has been, the corrupting influence of money, power, and fame. Combined with the sorts of problematic personality types which tend to be drawn to more "public" and "political" careers in the first place, it can tend to be a lethal combination.
 
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Gathomas88 said:
And how about the Clintons and Kennedys? Hell! Ted Kennedy seems to have straight up murdered a girl he was almost certainly screwing on the side, and the Clintons basically seem to have been living a sham marriage for political purposes for the last several decades.
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Yeah but the Kennedys weren't exactly high horse preachers like the examples I gave, which was my point. :2razz:
 
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PoS said:
Yeah but the Kennedys weren't exactly high horse preachers like the examples I gave, which was my point. :2razz:
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Are the Nazis less to blame for the Holocaust simply because they didn't exactly preach a philosophy of "justice, peace, and love?" Bad behavior is bad behavior. :shrug:

The bottom line here is that you're looking at men, and men are flawed. Trying to pass off the individual failings of a few individual men as also being the failings of every broadly taken idea to which they might've ever happened to subscribe is fallacious at best, and nonsensical at worst.

At the end of the day, no one's hands are clean, and no one is without a skeleton or two in the closet.

After all, it was not said that...

"Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people." - Eleanor Roosevelt​


...for no reason.

Unfortunately, headlines like these tend to make for a veritable field day for the "small minded." [emoji38]
 
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Gathomas88 said:
And how about the Clintons and Kennedys? Hell! Ted Kennedy seems to have straight up murdered a girl he was almost certainly screwing on the side, and the Clintons basically seem to have been living a sham marriage for political purposes for the last several decades.

Pound for pound, no. I don't think Conservative Christians are worse than the other side of the aisle. The opposite is most likely the case, in point of fact.

Christians just take more crap for it when they do fall, because they hold themselves to a higher standard to begin with.

The real problem here is, and pretty much always has been, the corrupting influence of money, power, and fame. Combined with the sorts of problematic personality types which tend to be drawn to more "public" and "political" careers in the first place, it can tend to be a lethal combination.
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the difference is, no one in the democratic party actually cares that clinton was helping himself to a little extra on the side. no one in the democratic party really condemned that affair. the republicans however, did. big.

so part of the issue is not that people on both sides sometimes have character defecencies, but that one side makes a big deal about being superior based on their percieved lack of flaws.
 
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Gathomas88 said:
Are the Nazis less to blame for the Holocaust simply because they didn't exactly preach a philosophy of "justice, peace, and love?" Bad behavior is bad behavior. :shrug:

The bottom line here is that you're looking at men, and men are flawed. Trying to pass off the individual failings of a few individual men as also being the failings of every idea to which they might've ever happened to subscribe is fallacious at best, and nonsensical at worst.

At the end of the day, no one's hands are clean, and no one is without a skeleton or two in the closet.

After all, it was not said that...

"Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people." - Eleanor Roosevelt​


...for no reason.

Unfortunately, headlines like these tend to make for a veritable field day for the "small minded." [emoji38]
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LOL first you bring up the Kennedys and now youre bringing up the Nazis? Calm down. :lol:

My point is that people ought to practice what they preach: if one engages in homosexuality and adultery then dont preach against it in public.
 
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As much as my evil side gets satisfaction from seeing those who hate the hardest those who are "not like them", and hold themselves up as so much better than those who are "not like them" to have their hypocrisy exposed, this entire incident of being able to hack into websites and release user information en mass should really not be applauded. Would any of us like our web-shopping exposed to the world? If I have said I think the Minions are silly, would I want the world to know I ordered a $40 talking Minion for my husband? (I love the Minions, btw) When I go around preaching that cigs are bad and everyone who smokes should quit for their own good, do I really want the world to know that after being cig free for 17 years, I still am hooked on Nicorette gum and order it every month?

Dumb examples, I know, but the point is not that these people were cheating on their spouses; the point is that somebody hacked a website to tell the world they were cheating on their spouses, thereby ruining a lot of families and a lot of lives.
 
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PoS said:
LOL first you bring up the Kennedys and now youre bringing up the Nazis? Calm down. [emoji38]

My point is that people ought to practice what they preach: if one engages in homosexuality and adultery then dont preach against it in public.
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Well... Yeah. Obviously. Lol

If a person's going to be a hypocritical douchebag, they should expect that to eventually catch up with them. All I'm saying here is that the sheer amount of shallow "outrage" these occasional outings tend to generate from certain, equally shallow, corners of public and political opinion is more than a bit hypocritical in and of itself.

Claiming that Conservatism or Christianity as a whole are discredited every time some closet case is outed, when some of the modern Left's greatest icons are easily among the most despicable and corrupt slime balls to ever disgrace American political discourse - rampant adultery, mob connections, murder allegations, and all - is more than a bit silly.

Don't get me wrong. Josh Duggar would certainly appear to be more than a bit of an asshole, and he's absolutely been discredited on a personal basis as such - hence why he resigned his position to begin with. However. I wouldn't say that the event is necessarily indicative of much more than that.

When a group holds itself to a higher standard, it's inevitable that a few of its members will fail to uphold that standard here and there. :shrug:
 
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I had never even heard of this show before today (to my knowledge)...19 Kids and Counting.

Why the 'f' would you have that many children? How on Earth can you give each of them enough love and attention? Judging by what this Josh guy did to his siblings - you cannot.

Scratch someone that wants a gigantic family today and more times then not you will find an emotionally disturbed and/or STAGGERINGLY stupid individual.
 
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