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If you don't believe in the freedom to have and express ugly thoughts, you don't believe in freedom.
If you don't believe in the freedom to associate with others on whatever basis you wish (if they'll have you), even if it's those ugly thoughts, then you don't believe in freedom.
I weep for the future of journalism.Hey you can think what you want, it's when you apply your opinion to businesses and reject people because you don't like the way they look when you are getting rid of freedom. Also I'm not bashing Paul per se I'm bashing the entire part where the Libertarians have this idea that its fine to not serve people based on color or if they don't like the way they look, and they all mostly got this idea from the fact that Ron Paul, their great one, is a racist old man.
Ultimately, discrimination is self-defeating. Basically, you would be fining yourself for your own biases, and if you were biased enough, you'd go out of business. It's kinda funny, but laws like CRA probably do more to keep racist business owners in business than putting them out of business.I happen to be a business owner, and I must say -- I don't WANT the right to refuse service to a person based upon their race or ethnicity. It's not as if my owning a business makes me lord and master of all I survey, you know.
Since he jumped ship to FOX News he can say whatever he wants you mean.
Also it's disheartening that people would agree to get their rights taken away. Where would it stop? A hospital or pharmacy could refuse a certain race or whatever service. What if it was a white guy in a Hispanic neighborhood? I guess buses should refuse to seat mexicans, could make black bus, white bus, mexican bus.
Hey you can think what you want, it's when you apply your opinion to businesses and reject people because you don't like the way they look when you are getting rid of freedom.
Also I'm not bashing Paul per se I'm bashing the entire part where the Libertarians have this idea that its fine to not serve people based on color or if they don't like the way they look, and they all mostly got this idea from the fact that Ron Paul, their great one, is a racist old man.
Libertarians, at least the ones who aren't obsessed with drugs, are generally the most independent-minded folks in the political sphere. .
and to prove it, they all say the exact, same things about the exact, same issues.
I happen to be a business owner, and I must say -- I don't WANT the right to refuse service to a person based upon their race or ethnicity. It's not as if my owning a business makes me lord and master of all I survey, you know.
Take a step back for a second and think about it - do you actually think that any of this would ever happen?
:lamo Are you ****ing serious? Google "barack obama racism" and see what it pulls up. Guess that proves he's a big, fat racist, right?@Johnny just google "Ron Paul racism" and see what it pulls up.
People who follow the same political philosophy frequently say many of the same things. Are you just now learning this?Also, I'm with gardener. It's like you guys get a pamphlet and read off bullet points. A non poltical forum I went to had a "world affairs" section and there was a thread about Ron Paul and word for word they all said the same exact things as if though they were Jehovah's witnesses going door to door.
Also, I'm with gardener. It's like you guys get a pamphlet and read off bullet points. A non poltical forum I went to had a "world affairs" section and there was a thread about Ron Paul and word for word they all said the same exact things as if though they were Jehovah's witnesses going door to door.
:lamo Are you ****ing serious? Google "barack obama racism" and see what it pulls up. Guess that proves he's a big, fat racist, right?
You've got to be ****ing kidding me with this Google ****.People who follow the same political philosophy frequently say many of the same things. Are you just now learning this?
No wonder today's media is in such a sorry state ...
It's old news. He's addressed it to most intelligent people's satisfaction. It's been addressed on this very forum numerous times. In any event, it has **** all to do with any political stance he or any other libertarian has.Also what do you mean media? Most media doesn't talk about his newsletters from the 90s or his op-ed pieces he wrote instead focusing on how he is right now. I guess the picture I posted wasn't proof enough though huh? What politican in their right mind would pose with Don Black?
So what the hell does this mean? Are you going to give examples or just keep vomiting forth emotional hyperbole like a teenage girl?Used to be people thought for themselves and didn't follow something like it was the Bible.
No I don't because the CRA will stay intact.
Also, I'm with gardener. It's like you guys get a pamphlet and read off bullet points. A non poltical forum I went to had a "world affairs" section and there was a thread about Ron Paul and word for word they all said the same exact things as if though they were Jehovah's witnesses going door to door.
It's old news. He's addressed it to most intelligent people's satisfaction. It's been addressed on this very forum numerous times. In any event, it has **** all to do with any political stance he or any other libertarian has.
And when I say "media," I mean you. Do you know why guilt by association is a losing tactic in political debate? I suggest you learn if you expect to be taken seriously.So what the hell does this mean? Are you going to give examples or just keep vomiting forth emotional hyperbole like a teenage girl?
Since he jumped ship to FOX News he can say whatever he wants you mean.
However, I was very clearly posing you a hypothetical question in response to your hypothetical doomsday scenario. Do you mind answering it?
Well I will concede that point just seems like FOX seems to get the most people that work in absolutes.He's been a vocal Libertarian, years before joining Fox.
Well I could see quite a few places down in Mississippi or hate to say this, my home state of SC (ever been to Maurice's BBQ?) embracing such an amendment to CRA, it's only a matter of time until a black or hispanic ran shop decides to do the same thing if not for anything else, but out of spite.
Dude that already happens.
Which is....where?
There are certain parts of town, where white people aren't allowed to go.
Now there aren't any signs or declarations but you just know, it isn't a place to visit.
Edit: that's what I was saying earlier in this thread.
Me and some buds went to eat at the Varsity in Atlanta late one night, it was closed so we went across the street to another restaurant.
They wouldn't serve us and the customers present were hostile.
Correction, you were to scared to get served and didn't feel like making a big **** about it. The same has happened to me in Atlanta, Cincinnati, etc that doesn't make it legal though. I'll be honest I never really made a big **** about it either, but it works both ways and I've never been anywhere in broad daylight that wouldn't serve me. Racism without a doubt exist from both sides but giving people a license to institute it isn't a good idea either.
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