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John Durham demands docs from DNC, Hillary Clinton campaign, Fusion GPS

To be specific, Sussmann told the C.I.A. about odd internet data suggesting that someone using a Russian-made smartphone (YotaPhones) may have been connecting to networks at Trump Tower and the White House, among other places. In other words, he went to the proper authorities when he found something that appeared odd.

Mr. Sussmann had obtained that information from a client, a technology executive named Rodney Joffe. Joffe’s company, Neustar, had helped maintain internet-related servers for the White House.

So the C.I.A. was skeptical. That doesn’t mean Sussmann was wrong; doesn’t mean it was BS and doesn’t mean it was fabricated. At trial, Sussmann will call the C.I.A. to testify how they reached their conclusion.
Yep, Im sure that what they mean when they describe the information as not technically plausible and doesn't pass initial scrutiny and don't forget user generated.

You want to know what political spin looks like? Hold your post up to a mirror.
 
Yep, Im sure that what they mean when they describe the information as not technically plausible and doesn't pass initial scrutiny and don't forget user generated.

You want to know what political spin looks like? Hold your post up to a mirror.
Let’s see what the court says.

If YOU hold the mirror, you will see someone expecting Durham to blow the whole Clinton, Obama, Biden crime team wide open. This Sussmann case is the best he got and it’s weak.
 
The crime was lying to the FBI about something not particularly consequential. Legal experts say that’s a flimsy charge and a difficult prosecution.

Sussmann didn’t think it was nonsense, that’s why he went to the FBI in the first place. You don’t know what he knew, as you can’t read his mind.

At trial, Sussmann will have the opportunity to reveal his information. That’s why this isrisky for Durham, because it exposes that it wasn’t bs.

We already know it was bs because the FBI investigated and found it to be bs.
The latest story is that the CIA also thought it bs.

We don't need to read Sussman's mind-- just his emails and texts that have been released thus far.
Which indicate he and company didn't think much of it all.

As far as any trial-- it would seem that Sussman is trying to limit the release of information admitted into evidence-- and not trying to get as much information admitted as possible.
 
Let’s see what the court says.

If YOU hold the mirror, you will see someone expecting Durham to blow the whole Clinton, Obama, Biden crime team wide open. This Sussmann case is the best he got and it’s weak.

The expectation is that it will demonstrate that the longstanding claim that Trump & Co. were essentially acting as agents of Russia to not simply be baseless (that has long been demonstrated), but instead to have been the creation of a political campaign.
 
The Hillary is in deep doo doo "clingers-on" brigade seem to have found a pivot man and are forming a circle.
 
Good for Durham, everyone needs a hobby!
 
Let's say all that's true. Then bust her. But the reality is, HRCs under investigation, the DNC, the DNC and Hillary's lawyers, Hunter Biden and his associated pals are all under investigation, yet Donald Trump plays golf, holds rallies and may run for the WH again after an attempted coup.

Tell me it's not so lord. Up is down and black is white.

The whataboutism does not matter, what does is the asinine assumption that Hillary is a noble human being.
 
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we saw almost half of the population agree with that assessment when they went to the polling booth in 2016 ... over half of the states

hardly the perspective of a nation that saw "Hillary is this straight arrow politician and lawyer"

they thought so little of her that they instead elected a sociopath

Consider that further for a moment if you will.

This nation literally elected an overprivileged, narcissistic, sociopathic, multiple bankruptcy "art of the deal" businessman, and orange spray tanned "grab 'em by the *****" tv reality star over Hillary Clinton.

Let that sink in when it comes to how terrible of a candidate Hillary was.

If Durham finds out she is a piece of shit it should surprise no one.
 
I don't think the democrat party is nuts enough to nominate the old hag again, however that does not mean she is not attempting to angle for it. I am basing her intentions based on her political history. When she starts tossing in her two cents on the issues on a regular basis, it generally means she has plans.

No need for the right to invent conspiracy theories about the Clintons. They have had non stop scandals going all the way back to Bill's multiple terms as governor of Arkansas. As for your rant about right wing noise and conspiracy theories, I'll take that with a grain of salt considering the four year Russian Collusion hoax, and many other left wing conspiracy theories on every republican president going back to Nixon . One even had George HW Bush flying to Paris on an SR-71 spy plane to meet the Iranians prior to the 1980 US election and ask them to delay releasing the American Embassy hostages until after the election.

Suit yourself.

but Trump’s collusion with the Russians is very well documented, and is pretty much a given at this point.

”. One even had George HW Bush flying to Paris on an SR-71 spy plane to meet the Iranians prior to the 1980 US election and ask them to delay releasing the American Embassy hostages until after the election.”

Neat how you embellished that one, spun it, and labeled it!

It was aLao attributed to James Baker.

But there seems to be some evidence that the initial contact happened in the Mayflower Hotel.
 
The whataboutism does not matter, what does is the asinine assumption that Hillary is a noble human being.
She's been investigated for twenty years or more. Nothing sticks. Enough's enough of these endless fool's errands.
 
She's been investigated for twenty years or more. Nothing sticks. Enough's enough of these endless fool's errands.
Some people are better than others at leaving no footprints.
 
Let’s see what the court says.

If YOU hold the mirror, you will see someone expecting Durham to blow the whole Clinton, Obama, Biden crime team wide open. This Sussmann case is the best he got and it’s weak.
Nope, what I expect Durham to do is show the government allowed their political prejudice to overcome their professionalism and prosecuted a case against a sitting President because they wanted to believe it, not because the evidence went there. He is doing an excellent job of that.

The Sussmann case is just one element of his entire investigation. His questioning of Halper and Downer showed he was going after each element used to open Crossfire Hurricane. While you are saying he is moving slowly he is working like a veteran investigator and covering the entirety of the case and making sure those in opposition to his investigation cannot point to one element he didn't examine. Each leg of the government case is proving to be an external pressure and manipulated, not an organic event where the campaign sought things out, but rather those acting on behalf of government or the DNC or the Clinton campaign sought them out to give an appearance of guilt.
 
She's been investigated for twenty years or more. Nothing sticks. Enough's enough of these endless fool's errands.
What's amusing is you think this is an investigation of Hillary. Its not, all the evidence is pointing to her but that wasn't the reason for the actual investigation. The fact that all the evidence points to her manipulation of the DoJ, the FBI, and the political system should be telling you something.
 
Suit yourself.

but Trump’s collusion with the Russians is very well documented, and is pretty much a given at this point.

”. One even had George HW Bush flying to Paris on an SR-71 spy plane to meet the Iranians prior to the 1980 US election and ask them to delay releasing the American Embassy hostages until after the election.”

Neat how you embellished that one, spun it, and labeled it!

It was aLao attributed to James Baker.

But there seems to be some evidence that the initial contact happened in the Mayflower Hotel.
Tom, even Mueller conceded there was no evidence of coordination or cooperation between the administration and Russian operatives and Russian government.

Quit buying into the lies the DNC has been feeding you to cover its own ass.
 
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John Durham demands docs from DNC, Hillary Clinton campaign, Fusion GPS


This is getting close to the flame. Watch now as the DNC and Clinton toadies fight to keep documents out of prosecutors hands.

What are they hiding? Isn't that what they've said about Trump docs? November can't come soon enough.

1) The Mueller Report conducted by a registered Republican and former FBI Director who served under both Parties was dismissed as a "hoax" and a "witch hunt" - despite the fact that he was appointed by the Deputy Attorney General (2017-2019) appointed/confirmed under the Trump Administration!

2) John Durham, also a registered Republican, was nominated/confirmed as US Attorney for Connecticut by the Trump Administration in 2018 - he was subsequently appointed as Special Council in 2019 by Attorney General Wm Barr to "investigate" the "investigators" - in retaliation to the Mueller Report!

3) All the parties involved would have been well aware of a basic "conflict of interests" - as Special Council, Durham was tasked with conducting an independent investigation, while retaining his position as US Attorney in the DOJ where he was still accountable to the Attorney General!

4) It was not until the eve of that Attorney General's resignation from the Trump Administration in December 2020, that Wm Barr finally revealed to Congress that he had appointed Durham as Special Council months earlier - without their knowledge!

5) Given that Special Councils was not legally required to divulge records of his expenditures, the Trump Administration had conveniently left no "loose ends" - a betrayal of trust, leaving no evidence of a "money trail" that might have revealed the fact that Durham was engaged in a conspiracy of conducting a secret, partisan investigation involving the President's political opponents, without their knowledge!

CONCLUSION

6) Durham is now investigating Mueller, both registered Republicans, both appointed by an Attorney General/Acting AG in the Trump Administration - the Democrats had no role in appointing the Special Councils nor determining the scope of their inquiries!

7) Given that President Trump and his supporters were adamant in condemning the Mueller Report, Durham was tasked with discrediting it - the Trump Administration was in fact investigating itself when the first Report failed to arrive at the "pre-determined" conclusion exonerating Trump!

8) Durham's credibility as an independent Special Council was suspect from the beginning, given that as US Attorney employed by the DOJ, he was still under the authority of the Attorney General - a political appointee serving at the pleasure of a President whose words and actions were in turn at the heart of both investigations!


 
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John Durham demands docs from DNC, Hillary Clinton campaign, Fusion GPS


This is getting close to the flame. Watch now as the DNC and Clinton toadies fight to keep documents out of prosecutors hands.

What are they hiding? Isn't that what they've said about Trump docs? November can't come soon enough.
I hope they fight this all the way to the Supreme Court like Trump always does. It will serve them right. No one cares who paid for the Steele dossier anyway. At least the premise of the document was proven right by Mueller and the Bipartisan Senate report. Putin interfered in the 2016 election to help Trump, No one knew what they were doing before the dossier was released.
 
I hope they fight this all the way to the Supreme Court like Trump always does. It will serve them right. No one cares who paid for the Steele dossier anyway. At least the premise of the document was proven right by Mueller and the Bipartisan Senate report. Putin interfered in the 2016 election to help Trump, No one knew what they were doing before the dossier was released.
If no one cared, they wouldn't have tried so damned hard to hide it.

Fabricated but true? WTAF. You just dropped your credibility into a black hole.
 
I hope they fight this all the way to the Supreme Court like Trump always does. It will serve them right. No one cares who paid for the Steele dossier anyway. At least the premise of the document was proven right by Mueller and the Bipartisan Senate report. Putin interfered in the 2016 election to help Trump, No one knew what they were doing before the dossier was released.

give it up, everyone now knows this was hogwash.
 
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I hope they fight this all the way to the Supreme Court like Trump always does. It will serve them right. No one cares who paid for the Steele dossier anyway. At least the premise of the document was proven right by Mueller and the Bipartisan Senate report. Putin interfered in the 2016 election to help Trump, No one knew what they were doing before the dossier was released.

Durham's Report will be nothing more than a predetermined, self-serving conclusion in search of evidence, real or imagined - just as with the ballot recounts, Trump and his supporters will continue to demand more investigations until they finally get the results they're willing to accept!

What credibility can be attributed to a Special Council willing to conduct the investigation of Trump's political opponents in secret - the revelation of whose very existence was dependent on the Attorney General's resignation, given that Barr could no longer be held responsible for this deception?

What confidence can the American public have in the judgement of a Special Council (SC) who also retained his former position as US Attorney with DOJ - an obvious "conflict of interest" that placed him subordinate to the Attorney General - whose loyalties resided with the same President whom the SC was investigating?
 
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So Durham can demand anything he likes.

Judging from the last few years, all he has to do is enforce it.

Good luck.
 
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