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John Boehner is a pinhead

American said:
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Not a pinhead. He's a shrewd politician who feigned disagreement. In the end they all want more of our money.
 
Got re-elected didn't he?
 
He's a politician. Surprised?
 
I thought he did a great job keeping tax increases to only the range of the salary of the President. A very minor increase compared to Obama's fantasies. No wonder he was re-elected.
 
specklebang said:
I thought he did a great job keeping tax increases to only the range of the salary of the President. A very minor increase compared to Obama's fantasies. No wonder he was re-elected.
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He got no spending cuts, WTF are you talking about good job?
 
American said:
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It seems to me there is something in the forum rules about "troll baiting"...though I haven't been around here as long as you have, so I might be wrong.
 
I forget. Which cuts were those?

There aren't any spending cuts. We already know that. Hos main job was to minimize taxes, particularly preserving capital gains rates. That's what happened. Don't lose sight of the objectives here.


American said:
He got no spending cuts, WTF are you talking about good job?
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specklebang said:
I forget. Which cuts were those?

There aren't any spending cuts. We already know that. Hos main job was to minimize taxes, particularly preserving capital gains rates. That's what happened. Don't lose sight of the objectives here.
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You don't get to limit his objectives and yell victory. A large group of people wanted spending cuts, and he didn't fight for them.
 
The only people who want spending cuts are here on the internet talking about it. Nobody in Washington DC wants those cuts (except maybe the Tea Party minority) because there isn't anything to cut. Money is flowing to the favored and you don't bite the hand etc.

I've read a million posts here and have never seen an actual spending cut proposal that made any sense. WTF does "cut Medicare" mean? Cut what and how? They have "cut" Medicare and now Doctors are so poorly reimbursed that the "care" has gone from "medical care".

Even those silly projects where they spend a few million studying the cocaine use of columbian prostitutes go to friends and relatives of some politician or First Family member and nobody wants to take them on. So, I think he did the best he could under the circumstances. Actually, I'm the one who called victory, not him.

If you can propose a specific spending cut, that says how much and how it affects the end objective, please post it here and I'll read it respectfully. I don't think you can do it though. Not because you're not a good, intelligent man but because you can't alter reality.


American said:
You don't get to limit his objectives and yell victory. A large group of people wanted spending cuts, and he didn't fight for them.
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And this is news how? Besides you were not saying that awhile ago when you were blasting "libs" for saying the same thing? Oh my slinky/.
 
specklebang said:
The only people who want spending cuts are here on the internet talking about it. Nobody in Washington DC wants those cuts (except maybe the Tea Party minority) because there isn't anything to cut. Money is flowing to the favored and you don't bite the hand etc.

I've read a million posts here and have never seen an actual spending cut proposal that made any sense. WTF does "cut Medicare" mean? Cut what and how? They have "cut" Medicare and now Doctors are so poorly reimbursed that the "care" has gone from "medical care".

Even those silly projects where they spend a few million studying the cocaine use of columbian prostitutes go to friends and relatives of some politician or First Family member and nobody wants to take them on. So, I think he did the best he could under the circumstances. Actually, I'm the one who called victory, not him.

If you can propose a specific spending cut, that says how much and how it affects the end objective, please post it here and I'll read it respectfully. I don't think you can do it though. Not because you're not a good, intelligent man but because you can't alter reality.
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I don't know anyone that has really suggested cutting anything. It's about limiting future growth. By every forecast I've ever seen medicare projected cost increases are plain and simply unsustainable. There are many possible fixes, they are just politically impossible. At the end of the day it all comes down to healthcare costs, which is why many of us find the ACA so bizarre. You can't fix rising costs by raising costs. The sad part is it CAN be fixed. Same old story, no one wants to pay and no one wants to stop getting freebies. Eventually it will be "fixed", by a financial meltdown
 
FWIW I do get Medicare (not Medicaid) and the prices went up this year, at the Government level, at the insurance company level and at the co-pay level. So, that should have some impact. Also, Part D covers fewer drugs, even many generics are no longer discounted at all.

That's information, not a position.

So, you say it CAN be fixed. Could you expound on that a little more? I'll assume you're not going to say to stop it but that there is a way to make it sustainable. I'm really interested in your POV.




gingern44 said:
I don't know anyone that has really suggested cutting anything. It's about limiting future growth. By every forecast I've ever seen medicare projected cost increases are plain and simply unsustainable. There are many possible fixes, they are just politically impossible. At the end of the day it all comes down to healthcare costs, which is why many of us find the ACA so bizarre. You can't fix rising costs by raising costs. The sad part is it CAN be fixed. Same old story, no one wants to pay and no one wants to stop getting freebies. Eventually it will be "fixed", by a financial meltdown
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