Joe Biden Coronavirus Adviser: Vaccine Should Be Distributed Globally, Not to America First

[MAGAnificent]

Uh huh, yeah, right, sure.

In my opinion, the "Republicans" (whatever that means) are going to spend the next four years whining about "How The Left Stole The Election".

Ofcourse that is coming from a librul who spent the previous four years whining about Trump's election in 2016. Those same libruls pushed a very nutty "Russian collusion" conspiracy theory for three years.

 

[snakestretcher]

Ofcourse that is coming from a librul who spent the previous four years whining about Trump's election in 2016. Those same libruls pushed a very nutty "Russian collusion" conspiracy theory for three years.

Which, by the way, Mueller concluded that he could not exonerate Trump from. He remains an impeached president, and will be for the rest of his miserable days.

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

Ofcourse that is coming from a librul who spent the previous four years whining about Trump's election in 2016. Those same libruls pushed a very nutty "Russian collusion" conspiracy theory for three years.

Aside from the facts that I never "whined about Trump's election in 2016", and that I have consistently maintained that the Russians are not stupid enough to actually "conspire" with Mr. Trump (or anyone else of his nature) your . . .

Oh wait, the whole of your post doesn't make any sense if you don't buy into your fantasy that I "whined about Trump's election in 2016" and "pushed a very nutty "Russian collusion" conspiracy theory".

 

[Mika-El]

In short, it isn't going to be "free" it's going to be "at no direct cost" - right?

Doesn't sound like it in the US. I can say in Canada they say no direct cost. In Canada by the way over 65 medical prescriptions are free. Likewise for people on welfare or refugee claimants awaiting refugee hearings. In the US I believe if its distributed federally the federal government could subsidize it avoiding a direct cost but if its allocated to each individual US state I would not know if they added a surcharge or not for specific people and why.

Its actually one of the discussion points for all our nations on how you effectively distribute a vaccine because many people won't take it if they have to pay for it either because they will have no money or if they have to pay will wait. I think from a p.r. perspective there will be a lot of suspicious people not wanting to take the vaccine and to be effective it has to be taken on a wide spread basis so I would imagine governments will distribute it freely and then recapture the cost in taxes. That seems to be a consensus right now. Anything is possible right? I believe polio vaccines which would be a good analogy were distributed without cost in the US to wipe out that illness The rabies vaccine which is expensive I believe is never withheld from anyone bitten by an animal if they can not afford it in the US. The US is a complicated legal system. Your states have a lot of power in terms of medical distribution.

Ofcourse that is coming from a librul who spent the previous four years whining about Trump's election in 2016. Those same libruls pushed a very nutty "Russian collusion" conspiracy theory for three years.

The Ukrainian President confirmed Trump called him and linked military aid to getting dirty on Biden. There is nothing nutty in that. Its fact. Your partisan denial of what Trump even admitted is illogical. Trump did not even deny the link. His argument was not that he linked the two but that there was nothing wrong with his linking the two. Your revision of history to deny what even Trump admits is pointless. Its as pointless as his childish tantrum that he lost the election because of a conspiracy of fraud. Before you point the finger at anyone for having conspiracy theories, get a grip of reality. You support the world of a President who spent four years advancing fantasy and conspiracy theories and lied over 20,000 times. Swallow it and move on. For someone who claimed he was coming into office to clean it up what the phack did he do in four years. His entire legacy is as follows" 1-he passed a bill to lower taxes that did not accelerate the economy and added to the stifling amount of debt the country can't pay back which will cause many future generations negative consequences from that deficit; 2-he lied and lied and lied and lied; 3-he fired and fired and fired; 4-he signed pieces of paper with his signature for photo ops that were never turned into law; 5-he golfed more than Obama ever did; 6- he never once read a briefing and has no laws, no policies, no initiatives to show for his 4 years; 6-he denied Covid 19, got caugh Covid 19, got caught lying about Covid 19, spread Covid 19 to many including his own son and then to top it off walked up a flight of stairs barely able to breath telling people he beat Covid; 7-he spent each day attacking people with personal insults on his tweet or in person; 8-was exposed as a tax fraud; 9-insulted the armed forces describing soldiers as losers and mocking John McCain and prisoners of war; 9-alienated his closest allies and carried on like a groupy with foul dictators Putin, Kim and Erdogan/ Yah its quite the legacy. Can't wait for you to get him re-elected in 2024. Are you going to build his library now or after his next term? I can see it now. A library of tweets.

 

[MAGAnificent]

Which, by the way, Mueller concluded that he could not exonerate Trump from.

Mueller's investigation concluded that there was no evidence of Trump or Trump campaign. No exoneration needed.

He remains an impeached president, and will be for the rest of his miserable days.

There will always be a footnote. Bill Clinton deserved impeachment and did Richard Nixon. Special prosecutors concluded that they committed actual crimes. Trump was impeached over a left wing narrative based on a phony and coached whistleblower with second hand information. It was a completely political impeachment. The irony is that Biden actually committed what Trump was accused of.

 

[MAGAnificent]

Doesn't sound like it in the US. I can say in Canada they say no direct cost. In Canada by the way over 65 medical prescriptions are free. Likewise for people on welfare or refugee claimants awaiting refugee hearings. In the US I believe if its distributed federally the federal government could subsidize it avoiding a direct cost but if its allocated to each individual US state I would not know if they added a surcharge or not for specific people and why.

Its actually one of the discussion points for all our nations on how you effectively distribute a vaccine because many people won't take it if they have to pay for it either because they will have no money or if they have to pay will wait. I think from a p.r. perspective there will be a lot of suspicious people not wanting to take the vaccine and to be effective it has to be taken on a wide spread basis so I would imagine governments will distribute it freely and then recapture the cost in taxes. That seems to be a consensus right now. Anything is possible right? I believe polio vaccines which would be a good analogy were distributed without cost in the US to wipe out that illness The rabies vaccine which is expensive I believe is never withheld from anyone bitten by an animal if they can not afford it in the US. The US is a complicated legal system. Your states have a lot of power in terms of medical distribution.


The Ukrainian President confirmed Trump called him and linked military aid to getting dirty on Biden. There is nothing nutty in that. Its fact. Your partisan denial of what Trump even admitted is illogical. Trump did not even deny the link. His argument was not that he linked the two but that there was nothing wrong with his linking the two. Your revision of history to deny what even Trump admits is pointless. Its as pointless as his childish tantrum that he lost the election because of a conspiracy of fraud. Before you point the finger at anyone for having conspiracy theories, get a grip of reality. You support the world of a President who spent four years advancing fantasy and conspiracy theories and lied over 20,000 times. Swallow it and move on. For someone who claimed he was coming into office to clean it up what the phack did he do in four years. His entire legacy is as follows" 1-he passed a bill to lower taxes that did not accelerate the economy and added to the stifling amount of debt the country can't pay back which will cause many future generations negative consequences from that deficit; 2-he lied and lied and lied and lied; 3-he fired and fired and fired; 4-he signed pieces of paper with his signature for photo ops that were never turned into law; 5-he golfed more than Obama ever did; 6- he never once read a briefing and has no laws, no policies, no initiatives to show for his 4 years; 6-he denied Covid 19, got caugh Covid 19, got caught lying about Covid 19, spread Covid 19 to many including his own son and then to top it off walked up a flight of stairs barely able to breath telling people he beat Covid; 7-he spent each day attacking people with personal insults on his tweet or in person; 8-was exposed as a tax fraud; 9-insulted the armed forces describing soldiers as losers and mocking John McCain and prisoners of war; 9-alienated his closest allies and carried on like a groupy with foul dictators Putin, Kim and Erdogan/ Yah its quite the legacy. Can't wait for you to get him re-elected in 2024. Are you going to build his library now or after his next term? I can see it now. A library of tweets.

100% baloney.

 

[MAGAnificent]

Aside from the facts that I never "whined about Trump's election in 2016", and that I have consistently maintained that the Russians are not stupid enough to actually "conspire" with Mr. Trump (or anyone else of his nature) your . . .

Oh wait, the whole of your post doesn't make any sense if you don't buy into your fantasy that I "whined about Trump's election in 2016" and "pushed a very nutty "Russian collusion" conspiracy theory".

No offense, but I do not believe you.

 

[roguenuke]

Mueller's investigation concluded that there was no evidence of Trump or Trump campaign. No exoneration needed.



There will always be a footnote. Bill Clinton deserved impeachment and did Richard Nixon. Special prosecutors concluded that they committed actual crimes. Trump was impeached over a left wing narrative based on a phony and coached whistleblower with second hand information. It was a completely political impeachment. The irony is that Biden actually committed what Trump was accused of.

This is not true and it has been gone over on here, with plenty of evidence from various countries that prove Biden was not threatening to withhold financial aid from Ukraine for personal reasons, but rather for the very reason the aid was being given in the first place, to fight corruption. Maybe stop believing the conspiracy theories that are fed from Trump and his gang.

 

[snakestretcher]

Mueller's investigation concluded that there was no evidence of Trump or Trump campaign. No exoneration needed.



There will always be a footnote. Bill Clinton deserved impeachment and did Richard Nixon. Special prosecutors concluded that they committed actual crimes. Trump was impeached over a left wing narrative based on a phony and coached whistleblower with second hand information. It was a completely political impeachment. The irony is that Biden actually committed what Trump was accused of.

No, that is emphatically not what Mueller concluded. The report stated categorically that he could not exonerate Trump, no matter how you try to spin it. Trump is a crook who regards encounters with the law as an occupational hazard, and has been his entire life. You know it, I know it and there's plenty of documented evidence and court transcripts to prove it-from defrauding students with a fake university scam and having to settle with them for $25 million, to stealing millions of charity donations to enrich himself with in what the court called, "a shocking pattern of financial illegality", referring to his dealings with the Trump Foundation (ordered to dissolve).
Does that sound like an honest US President or a sleazy banana republic generalissimo?

 

[Mika-El]

100% baloney.

Well yes for Trumpets when you disagree with someone you stick your tongue out. Yah we know. See you in Washington for the tantrum about losing,

 

[MAGAnificent]

Well yes for Trumpets when you disagree with someone you stick your tongue out. Yah we know. See you in Washington for the tantrum about losing,

Sounds like TDS on the left.

 

[MAGAnificent]

No, that is emphatically not what Mueller concluded. The report stated categorically that he could not exonerate Trump, no matter how you try to spin it. Trump is a crook who regards encounters with the law as an occupational hazard, and has been his entire life. You know it, I know it and there's plenty of documented evidence and court transcripts to prove it-from defrauding students with a fake university scam and having to settle with them for $25 million, to stealing millions of charity donations to enrich himself with in what the court called, "a shocking pattern of financial illegality", referring to his dealings with the Trump Foundation (ordered to dissolve).
Does that sound like an honest US President or a sleazy banana republic generalissimo?

Mueller's investigation to begin with was a witch hunt over a hoax created by the Hillary camp. It was an investigation desperately searching for an underlying crime of collusion with the Russians to win the 2016 election. It has since come out in the intelligence community that it's original intention was to take heat off of the hildabeast over her email scandal. Mueller concluded that there was no evidence of Trump or Trump campaign collusion with the Russians. Trump did not do what they were seeking to charge him with. End of story. Claiming that he was not exonerated assumes guilt. And let's be honest. Mueller was just a figurehead, behind the scenes Andrew Weissman was running the investigation. You must have noticed when Mueller was testifying in the Senate on his conclusions, he barely knew what went on. As for the defrauding students allegations, I am not interested as it was a civil court matter.

 

[MAGAnificent]

This is not true and it has been gone over on here, with plenty of evidence from various countries that prove Biden was not threatening to withhold financial aid from Ukraine for personal reasons, but rather for the very reason the aid was being given in the first place, to fight corruption. Maybe stop believing the conspiracy theories that are fed from Trump and his gang.

No offense, but you are basically just making it up as you go along. Biden is on video bragging about withholding a billion dollar loan to Ukraine unless they fired a prosecutor looking into the company his son Hunter was a board member of. Claiming that he was doing so to fight corruption is utter nonsense. He was trying to protect his coke snorting son.

 

[Ethel2]

No offense, but I do not believe you.

Nobody cares what you believe. And nobody on the left claimed that the jackass rigged the 2016 election. But the jackass and his bootlickers are doing just that in this election, even though it wasn't even close.
Talk about sore losers......

 

[Deuce]

But don't forget, America is the country where the settlers killed the natives, and then owned slaves. So why should we get anything first?

That’s not remotely true. Conservatives continue to prove they don’t know shit about history.

 

[Ethel2]

No, that is emphatically not what Mueller concluded. The report stated categorically that he could not exonerate Trump, no matter how you try to spin it. Trump is a crook who regards encounters with the law as an occupational hazard, and has been his entire life. You know it, I know it and there's plenty of documented evidence and court transcripts to prove it-from defrauding students with a fake university scam and having to settle with them for $25 million, to stealing millions of charity donations to enrich himself with in what the court called, "a shocking pattern of financial illegality", referring to his dealings with the Trump Foundation (ordered to dissolve).
Does that sound like an honest US President or a sleazy banana republic generalissimo?

The jackass will try to pardon himself before he leaves on Jan 20. Take that to the bank. Unfortunately for him that only exonerates him for federal crimes, if its even legal. He will be sued and convicted on numerous state crimes he committed in NY. Lawsuits are already filed against him in that state.
And BTW: exactly how does he think it will help THE COUNTRY by denying the lawful winner of the election access to security briefings and other necessary transition data? Or perhaps he is just looking out for himself................again. He is a selfish pig.

 

[MAGAnificent]

Nobody cares what you believe. And nobody on the left claimed that the jackass rigged the 2016 election. But the jackass and his bootlickers are doing just that in this election, even though it wasn't even close.
Talk about sore losers......

Point 1. If you did not care what I think, you would not have bothered to respond. Point 2, You are an example of the worst aspects of the far left these days. Psychopathic hatred of Trump and his supporters is not serving your party well. It contributed to the defeat of the hildabeast in 2016.

 

[Ethel2]

Point 1. If you did not care what I think, you would not have bothered to respond. Point 2, You are an example of the worst aspects of the far left these days. Psychopathic hatred of Trump and his supporters is not serving your party well. It contributed to the defeat of the hildabeast in 2016.

Point one: just because I don't care what you think doesn't mean I am going to allow you and your ilk to spout nonsense here. Don't feel bad: no one cares what I think here either
Point two: I do not have a "psychopathic hatred" of the supporters of the jackass. I don't even dislike them or some of how they side on political issues. I ONLY have a hatred of all mass murderers, and the jackass is one of those. Everyone should hate him for that as they would hate Stalin or Hitler.

 

[MAGAnificent]

Point one: just because I don't care what you think doesn't mean I am going to allow you and your ilk to spout nonsense here. Don't feel bad: no one cares what I think here either

Once again, you cared about my opinion enough to comment on it. If it was meaningless to you, you would have just moved on to other posts...yet you have now responded twice. Go figure!

Point two: I do not have a "psychopathic hatred" of the supporters of the jackass. I don't even dislike them or some of how they side on political issues. I ONLY have a hatred of all mass murderers, and the jackass is one of those. Everyone should hate him for that as they would hate Stalin or Hitler.

Your post is dripping with such hatred, especiaily with your nonsense comparison to Stalin and Hitler. What you are admitting in your own way is that you resent alternate political views. That was also a trait of Stalin and Hitler.

 

[Ethel2]

Once again, you cared about my opinion enough to comment on it. If it was meaningless to you, you would have just moved on to other posts...yet you have now responded twice. Go figure!



Your post is dripping with such hatred, especiaily with your nonsense comparison to Stalin and Hitler. What you are admitting in your own way is that you resent alternate political views. That was also a trait of Stalin and Hitler.

The ONLY thing I hate is the jackass. Thats it. My views politically are moderate. I agree with some of the views held by democrats and some held by republicans. I HATE the jackass because he is responsible for the needless loss of lives in this country numbering in the hundreds of thousands. Thats it. Its him and how he mishandled the pandemic.
And frankly, I don't give a rats ass if you believe me or not.

Oh-and this is an INTERNET FORUM. This isn't a group of family or friends getting together for a discussion. Truth is, NO ONE cares what ANYONE else thinks here. To assume otherwise is overstating your importance. Posting here does not make our views more worthy or increase our value to society somehow. Its ONLY a place to vent. You should understand that.

 

[MAGAnificent]

The ONLY thing I hate is the jackass. Thats it. My views politically are moderate. I agree with some of the views held by democrats and some held by republicans. I HATE the jackass because he is responsible for the needless loss of lives in this country numbering in the hundreds of thousands. Thats it. Its him and how he mishandled the pandemic.

Nothing at all moderate about your post. It's dripping with visceral hatred of Trump. And your blaming him for the pandemic is just repulsive partisanship. The pandemic hit virtually every nation and region on the planet and most are much worse off then we are. They just record their stats differently then we do and in many cases, dishonestly.

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

Mueller's investigation concluded that there was no evidence of Trump or Trump campaign. No exoneration needed.

Unfortunately for your position, the Mueller investigation did NOT conclude that there was NO evidence. What the Mueller investigation DID conclude was that (in light of the fact that it was contrary to policy to launch criminal charges against the President of the United States of America) that it would be inappropriate to launch criminal charges against the President of the United States of America and that the appropriate course of action was to allow the constitutional provisions relating to impeachment to take their course.

The Mueller investigation also concluded that AT THAT POINT IN TIME there was INSUFFICIENT evidence to believe that there would have been a "reasonable likelihood of conviction" IF criminal charges were laid.

There will always be a footnote. Bill Clinton deserved impeachment and did Richard Nixon. Special prosecutors concluded that they committed actual crimes. Trump was impeached over a left wing narrative based on a phony and coached whistleblower with second hand information. It was a completely political impeachment.

There are ALWAYS "footnotes" to history.

The irony is that Biden actually committed what Trump was accused of.

Then I suggest that you start urging your elected Senators and Representatives to get the ball rolling to impeach Mr. Biden.

After all, no one of your ilk has ever said anything even remotely like "You lost! Get over it." - right?

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

No offense, but I do not believe you.

That, Sir, is simply not my problem.

 

[MAGAnificent]

That, Sir, is simply not my problem.

Not intending it to be. I just call them as I see them. Take care.

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

No offense, but you are basically just making it up as you go along. Biden is on video bragging about withholding a billion dollar loan to Ukraine unless they fired a prosecutor looking into the company his son Hunter was a board member of. Claiming that he was doing so to fight corruption is utter nonsense. He was trying to protect his coke snorting son.

You appear to be overlooking the fact that the prosecutor WAS NOT ACTUALLY "looking into the company his son Hunter was a board member of" and that was a part of the whole problem. The prosecutor was corrupt and the US government was NOT the only government that wanted him removed.