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Jehovah Witnesses - The origin about trinity and hell...

Elvira said:
Then you are not searching for the truth...spare me...
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I already found the Truth. Jesus Christ!
I'm done searching.

You seem to be dodging.

I'm surprised about what is said about JW - that they claim Jesus had taught about that kind of baptism you are required to do!

That when you're being baptized.....

....you are required to publicly confirm that you are associating yourself "with God's spirit-directed organization" thereby submitting yourself to its direction and judicial system?




Lol. Never read that in the Bible.

Is that true? You're required to make that confirmation?
Just answer yes, or no.
 
tosca1 said:
EEEERRRCKKKKK <that's me gagging>

Say what?


Lol! You don't even believe what Jesus claimed Himself to be!

And.....JW believes God was without wisdom until He created Jesus!
Lol. Imagine God having no wisdom at sometime before he created wisdom (Jesus)! Lol.
How did He know enough about wisdom in the first place, if He had no wisdom at the time???? :lol:

You ignored that before......can you explain that now, Elvira????
Do you folks believe God had no wisdom before He created Jesus?
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/// Do you folks believe God had no wisdom before he created Jesus ? //// Are you saying Jesus hasn't 'always' been God ?
 
tosca1 said:
I already found the Truth. Jesus Christ!
I'm done searching.



But I'm surprised about what is said about JW - that they claim Jesus had taught about that kind of baptism you are required to do!

That when you're being baptized.....

....you are required to publicly confirm that you are associating yourself "with God's spirit-directed organization" thereby submitting yourself to its direction and judicial system?




Lol. Never read that in the Bible.

Is that true? You're required to make that confirmation?
Just answer yes, or no.
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What do you think of Matthew 24:45-47? Who is the faithful and discreet slave?
 
Elvira said:
What do you think of Matthew 24:45-47? Who is the faithful and discreet slave?
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I'm not asking about any slave, discreet or otherwise! :roll:

Why can't JW answer a simple question with a simple answer?

Like the JW who comes knocking - you ask them pointblank - do you believe Jesus is God.....
......and they hum and ahhhh....:lol:


Are you not sure where you stand? Are you afraid to answer or what???


What's so hard about answering yes or no?

Is it true?

That when you're being baptized.....

....you are required to publicly confirm that you are associating yourself "with God's spirit-directed organization" thereby submitting yourself to its direction and judicial system?



If yes.....can you cite the biblical basis for it!
 
Logician Man said:
/// Do you folks believe God had no wisdom before he created Jesus ? //// Are you saying Jesus hasn't 'always' been God ?
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Hi LM...who do you think Proverbs 8:22-31 is referring to?
 
Logicman said:
I think you have to do some comparisons. You have to demonstrate what the truth is so that people will know what the lies are. That's what's going on here in exposing the lies of the JW's so people will not be led astray by their corrupted and revisionist teachings.
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Show us where the word 'trinity' is in the bible.
 
tosca1 said:
Why can't JW answer a simple question with a simple answer?

Like the JW who comes knocking - you ask them pointblank - do you believe Jesus is God.....
......and they hum and ahhhh....:lol:


Are you not sure where you stand? Are you afraid to answer or what???


What's so hard about answering yes or no?

Is it true?

That when you're being baptized.....

....you are required to publicly confirm that you are associating yourself "with God's spirit-directed organization" thereby submitting yourself to its direction and judicial system?



If yes.....can you cite the biblical basis for it!
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You are not the only one allowed to ask questions...
 
Logician Man said:
/// Do you folks believe God had no wisdom before he created Jesus ? //// Are you saying Jesus hasn't 'always' been God ?
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EH?? What are on about? Can't you follow?

I'm asking her!
 
Elvira said:
Hi LM...who do you think Proverbs 8:22-31 is referring to?
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Why? You're afraid to commit yourself to an answer?


Because you don't want to hear the obvious.....LOGICAL QUESTION...... that would surely follow, eh? :lol:


You're passing the question to him? :mrgreen:
 
tosca1 said:
I'm not asking about any slave, discreet or otherwise! :roll:

Why can't JW answer a simple question with a simple answer?

Like the JW who comes knocking - you ask them pointblank - do you believe Jesus is God.....
......and they hum and ahhhh....:lol:


Are you not sure where you stand? Are you afraid to answer or what???


What's so hard about answering yes or no?

Is it true?

That when you're being baptized.....

....you are required to publicly confirm that you are associating yourself "with God's spirit-directed organization" thereby submitting yourself to its direction and judicial system?



If yes.....can you cite the biblical basis for it!
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Are you going to answer post#27 ?.It's a very simple YES or NO question.
 
Logician Man said:
Show us where the word 'trinity' is in the bible.
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Or even the idea of the trinity outside of the 3 being mentioned in the one verse in the entire Bible...which never said they were ONE...
 
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Elvira said:
Correct...
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So.....

........if Jesus is Wisdom - and Jesus was created by God...........

.....therefore, you're saying, God was without wisdom before Jesus was created.



Oh boy.......:lol:
 
tosca1 said:
So.....if Jesus is Wisdom - and Jesus was created by God...........you're saying God was without wisdom
before Jesus was created.

Oh boy.......:lol:
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Reading comprehension problems again, I see...:roll:
 
Elvira said:
Challenging the truth of one's beliefs is not claiming superiority of another person in any way, shape, or form....the quest for truth should be the motivating factor for anyone's desire to serve the God of Truth...
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I'm glad you feel that way. So....let's go on with the quest for truth concerning this claim from Wiki.


Elvira - this question is again being asked of you to clarify:


Is it true?

That when you're being baptized.....

....you are required to publicly confirm that you are associating yourself "with God's spirit-directed organization" thereby submitting yourself to its direction and judicial system?



If yes.....can you cite the biblical basis for it!
 
tosca1 said:
I'm glad you feel that way. So....let's go on with the quest for truth concerning this claim from Wiki.


Elvira - this question is again being asked of you to clarify:


Is it true?

That when you're being baptized.....

....you are required to publicly confirm that you are associating yourself "with God's spirit-directed organization" thereby submitting yourself to its direction and judicial system?



If yes.....can you cite the biblical basis for it!
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I did but you refused to discuss it...you really should get some help with your reading comprehension problems...poor thing...:(
 
Elvira said:
Reading comprehension problems again, I see...:roll:
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.....still no explanation from you.....dodging......dodging......:mrgreen:


Meh.
Maybe you should run along and ask JW how to answer the questions.
Or, better yet, bring someone in here.....:lol:
 
tosca1 said:
.....still no explanation from you.....dodging......dodging......:mrgreen:
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I have tried to have a discussion with you but well, I can see that's not gonna happen...:2brickwal
 
Elvira said:
I did but you refused to discuss it...you really should get some help with your reading comprehension problems...poor thing...:(
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There's the typical I did give the answer/explanation etc..,

No, you did not.

Stop being dishonest.
 
Elvira said:
I have tried to have a discussion with you but well, I can see that's not gonna happen...:2brickwal
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Well, of course discussion isn't gonna happen when you're simply dodging questions! What do you think?
You can't even stand by your own JW doctrine to defend it! :lol:


Go ahead, keep banging your head against the wall. Concussion could be the result of that.
Maybe that's the cause of your problem.....:lamo
 
Logician Man said:
Are JWs Christians?
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Elvira sent you? To deflect for her? :lol:

Anyway, about your question - it's better if Elvira answers that herself. After all, she's the JW.
I'm trying to help her. Brushing off the scales. I hope she comes to see the truth.
 
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