Jeff Goldblum criticized for 'dangerous and hurtful' comments on Islam during 'RuPaul's Drag Race'

[Tanngrisnir]

Troll away.

Enjoy your dishonesty!

 

[OldFatGuy]

Why are you lying about trolling?

Boring

 

[Diesel]

No it is legal to discriminate against white males in the workforce and university system through affirmative action.

No, it's not. Read a book.

 

[OldFatGuy]

Nonsense, while the stoics of antiquity did touch on natural law, the concepts of natural law and natural rights were fully expounded and formulated by Catholic theologians during the middle ages and by Protestant thinkers during the Protestant reformation. And the only person who could be labeled an atheist amongst the founders that I'm aware of was Thomas Paine (more of a radical deist actually) and he was ostracized for his atheistic beliefs after authoring The Age of Reason and was left to rot in a French prison by his American contemporaries.

Why would I care what catholics thought? Or protestants, for that matter? Two sides of an evil, hypocritical coin. Jesus, an orthodox religious Jew would have spurned them both.

Do you know how many co-authored and contributed to the US Constitution?

 

[OldFatGuy]

Enjoy your dishonesty!

I do not enjoy yours.

 

[Tanngrisnir]

I do not enjoy yours.

Boring.

 

[Diesel]

No the hypocrisy is from those using false equivalency to downplay the severity of oppression experienced by gays in the Muslim world, to assert that the treatment of gays in western Christian majority countries even belongs in this conversation is disgusting.

Oppression is bad in every form it takes. Your argument for 28 pages is that your oppression is ok because it's not as bad as Muslim oppression. But you didn't even leave it there. You decided to attack the people who tried to tell you to be a decent human being no matter how many people are worse than you are. Now, in case that isn't clear to you, think about this: Eating the facial flesh off a human baby is bad. Holding a puppy under the bath water until it dies is also bad. No amount of moral relativism is ever going to change those statements, even when you try to rate the degrees of their severity. The fact that some decided they can hate gays consequence-free because some Muslims stone gays for being gay, doesn't change the fact that hate and stoning are both bad.

 

[Bodi]

Ya the law is just speculation now.

So you admit that it is speculation... what is the problem then.

Jesus Christ the apologetics never end with you people.

There is no need to post racist insults.

The Constitution is based on natural rights and natural law which are concepts conceived by Christians using Christian principles going all the way back to such Christian theologians as Thomas Aquinas.

You are changing the goal posts... the argument was 'laws' not the 'Constitution'... but I am quite confident that you will try to make them relate.

 

[Bodi]

Ya because you have to become a caped crusader to oppose murder, rape, and robbery. Brilliant!

Your posts indicate a fascination in women being treated poorly...

Comparing the actions of individuals to that of entire societies and cultures is laughable.

You already lost...

 

[D_NATURED]

Nonsense, while the stoics of antiquity did touch on natural law, the concepts of natural law and natural rights were fully expounded and formulated by Catholic theologians during the middle ages and by Protestant thinkers during the Protestant reformation. And the only person who could be labeled an atheist amongst the founders that I'm aware of was Thomas Paine (more of a radical deist actually) and he was ostracized for his atheistic beliefs after authoring The Age of Reason and was left to rot in a French prison by his American contemporaries.

If Darwin had done his work prior to the constitution's creation, there would have been more openly atheist founders.

 

[bomberfox]

Spare me your moral relativism, Christian majority nations do not execute gays for being gay and haven't for more than a century.

Officially.....

 

[D_NATURED]

Islam is unapologetically anachronistic and its adherents must be creative to excuse the politics that manifest from its overtly authoritarian scripture.

Christianity is better but only by degrees. I have no doubt that absent its existence largely as a traditional mistake made by otherwise secular places, they would be as brutal as Islam.

I strongly feel like it is free speech being primary to free religion here in the US that keeps the fundies leashed. Our nation was begun by puritan christian pilgrims who, originally, came here to be free to oppress in ways that modern Islam would find impressive.

Thank god for atheists, who insisted I should have the right to doubt as vociferously as I do and actually SAY so..

 

[KevinKohler]

Again spare me your false equivalency you can't compare the modern conversion therapy techniques of counseling and prayer to executing gays for existing.

Oh, so one is not as bad as the other, ergo, no criticism may ever be levied.

Nice.

 

[jotathought]

Jeff Goldblum criticized for 'dangerous and hurtful' comments on Islam during 'RuPaul's Drag Race'

Goldblum continued asking Cox about her religion's stance on the LGBTQ community and women.

"Is there something in that religion that is anti-homosexuality and anti-woman? Does that complicate the issue?" the actor asked. "I'm just raising it and thinking out loud and maybe being stupid."

Jeff Goldblum criticized on Twitter for 'dangerous' comments on Islam

And by "dangerous and hurtful" they of course mean "truthful and accurate". These people are lunatics.

I guess my question would be: how was it dangerous and hurtful? What makes it dangerous?

 

[bomberfox]

Yes it is.



No it's not you dont get to frame your bull **** argument to downplay the vast state oppression experienced by gays in the Muslim world.



No they're not that's a lie. Show me an example of a Christian murdering a gay because the bible commanded him to, I'll wait.


More lies most mainstream Christian denominations teach to hate the sin but love the sinner and to try to get gays to repent and come to Jesus to be saved so spare me you bull **** lies and moral relativism.

Therein lies the problem, they think it is something they need to be converted away from.

 

[bomberfox]

Also which party actively campaigned to change the constitution to deny same sex couples the same rights as heterosexual marriages?

 

[bomberfox]

Why do you hate gays? It's clear that you want them executed through your false equivalency apologetics.

Your defense of conversion therapy says a lot about you as well.

 

[vegas giants]

No they're not you're thinking of straight white males.

Gender and race are federally protected classes.



That is a fact

 

[FreeSpeechRooom]

Also which party actively campaigned to change the constitution to deny same sex couples the same rights as heterosexual marriages?

Neither party. Marriage isn't a right it's a privilege it isn't listed in the Constitution as it is an institution codified by law which is why you need a marriage license.

 

[FreeSpeechRooom]

Gender and race are federally protected classes.



That is a fact

Unless you're a white Male in which case it is legal to discriminate in the work force and university system under affirmative action.

 

[vegas giants]

Unless you're a white Male in which case it is legal to discriminate in the work force and university system under affirmative action.

Affirmative action is not discrimination according to scotus

 

[FreeSpeechRooom]

Your defense of conversion therapy says a lot about you as well.

I'm not defending it as it lacks scientific validity but to compare counseling and prayer to execution is laughable.

 

[vegas giants]

Neither party. Marriage isn't a right it's a privilege it isn't listed in the Constitution as it is an institution codified by law which is why you need a marriage license.

Actually it's a right. Rights dont need to be listed in the constitution

 

[distraff]

Spare me your moral relativism, Christian majority nations do not execute gays for being gay and haven't for more than a century.

That is more of a legal difference than a religious difference.

 

[FreeSpeechRooom]

Oppression is bad in every form it takes. Your argument for 28 pages is that your oppression is ok because it's not as bad as Muslim oppression. But you didn't even leave it there. You decided to attack the people who tried to tell you to be a decent human being no matter how many people are worse than you are. Now, in case that isn't clear to you, think about this: Eating the facial flesh off a human baby is bad. Holding a puppy under the bath water until it dies is also bad. No amount of moral relativism is ever going to change those statements, even when you try to rate the degrees of their severity. The fact that some decided they can hate gays consequence-free because some Muslims stone gays for being gay, doesn't change the fact that hate and stoning are both bad.

I'm attacking the people drawing laughable false equivalencies and using whataboutism to downplay and wax apologetics for the crimes against humanity perpetrated against gays in the Muslim world. The treatment of gays in western Christian majority countries where they enjoy full and equal rights under the law has no place in this conversation and only serves the purpose to distract and deflect from the real issue which of course is your intent. It's disgusting.