Ivanka Used Private Email Server for Government Business.

[hanger4]

The material HRC sent was not classified when she sent it. It was retroactively classified.

Lesson to learn: Don't do it. You don't know what will be retroactively classified and Ivanka should have known just from Hillary's experience that she cannot under any circumstances know how this will play out as to classified documents. Neither her nor her lawyer know where that stands. In other words no matter how you slice it, it should not be done. Hillary should not have done it and Ivanka having watched Hillary pilloried for it should have known better.

Ahhhhhhh but it was;

From the group of 30,000 e-mails returned to the State Department, 110 e-mails in 52 e-mail chains have been determined by the owning agency to contain classified information at the time they were sent or received. Eight of those chains contained information that was Top Secret at the time they were sent; 36 chains contained Secret information at the time; and eight contained Confidential information, which is the lowest level of classification.

https://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/p...-clinton2019s-use-of-a-personal-e-mail-system

Over two years ago this statement was made, it's been disseminated countless times and still people outright lie about what it says or say things about it out ignorance. Sad

 

[independentusa]

It wasn't the using a private server that should of landed Hillary in jail. It was using that unsecured server to send classified information. If Ivanka sent classified information then I agree she should be locked up. If no classified information was sent then she derserves less of a punishment than Hillary received over her handling of classified documents

The problem is that it was determined that Hillary's server had never been hacked, but we know that the Russians were and are hacking into all of the Trump's and his families use of unsecured emails and phones. Many times that included the schedules for Trump and his family members. Not a good thing.

 

[hanger4]

The problem is that it was determined that Hillary's server had never been hacked, but we know that the Russians were and are hacking into all of the Trump's and his families use of unsecured emails and phones. Many times that included the schedules for Trump and his family members. Not a good thing.

*The problem is that it was determined that Hillary's server had never been hacked,*

This ^^ is not true, from Comey's statement;

"With respect to potential computer intrusion by hostile actors, we did not find direct evidence that Secretary Clinton’s personal e-mail domain, in its various configurations since 2009, was successfully hacked. But, given the nature of the system and of the actors potentially involved, we assess that we would be unlikely to see such direct evidence."

https://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/p...-clinton2019s-use-of-a-personal-e-mail-system

It's plain to see that the evidence shows they don't know if HRC's server was hacked.

 

[JackA]

After what happened with HRC, Ivanka Trump should know better. There is no excuse for this.

That said, the “lock her up” chants are as pathetic now as they were then.

The chants are done in irony, friend.

 

[lwf]

No it didn't. they nailed hillary's rear end to the wall they had classified material and above top secret information being sent.
you people and your revisionist memory.

what kept her from a court date was Comey changing the law which he didn't have the power to do.

Comey didn't change any laws. The investigation concluded that no information marked classified was sent, but that there was some information that should have been marked classified and wasn't. Should she have used a personal email server to handle government business? No. But that doesn't mean she broke the law.

 

[independentusa]

*The problem is that it was determined that Hillary's server had never been hacked,*

This ^^ is not true, from Comey's statement;

"With respect to potential computer intrusion by hostile actors, we did not find direct evidence that Secretary Clinton’s personal e-mail domain, in its various configurations since 2009, was successfully hacked. But, given the nature of the system and of the actors potentially involved, we assess that we would be unlikely to see such direct evidence."

https://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/p...-clinton2019s-use-of-a-personal-e-mail-system

It's plain to see that the evidence shows they don't know if HRC's server was hacked.

So basically there is no evidence that Hillary's server had ever been hacked, YES? YOu are making a statement that it had been hacked but have no evidence and noether does anyone else. From what i read the people who were keeping her server from being hacked said it had never been, so again you are proving it has been by saying there is no proof that it not been hacked?

 

[JackA]

*The problem is that it was determined that Hillary's server had never been hacked,*

This ^^ is not true, from Comey's statement;

"With respect to potential computer intrusion by hostile actors, we did not find direct evidence that Secretary Clinton’s personal e-mail domain, in its various configurations since 2009, was successfully hacked. But, given the nature of the system and of the actors potentially involved, we assess that we would be unlikely to see such direct evidence."

https://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/p...-clinton2019s-use-of-a-personal-e-mail-system

It's plain to see that the evidence shows they don't know if HRC's server was hacked.

They don’t know and hopefully the whole made up scandal will now finally fade into absurdist history. This is the gift from Ivanka.

 

[akyron]

No it didn't. they nailed hillary's rear end to the wall they had classified material and above top secret information being sent.
you people and your revisionist memory.

what kept her from a court date was Comey changing the law which he didn't have the power to do.

Strozk had a direct hand in shielding HRC by changing the wording. Comey backed it up and took it public.

The Hurricane Crossfire cabal in action.



5:20 is a good place to start..

 

[ludin]

Comey didn't change any laws. The investigation concluded that no information marked classified was sent, but that there was some information that should have been marked classified and wasn't. Should she have used a personal email server to handle government business? No. But that doesn't mean she broke the law.

Now you are just down right lying.

Straight from Comey's briefing.

From the group of 30,000 e-mails returned to the State Department, 110 e-mails in 52 e-mail chains have been determined by the owning agency to contain classified information at the time they were sent or received. Eight of those chains contained information that was Top Secret at the time they were sent; 36 chains contained Secret information at the time; and eight contained Confidential information, which is the lowest level of classification. Separate from those, about 2,000 additional e-mails were “up-classified” to make them Confidential; the information in those had not been classified at the time the e-mails were sent.

yes it does.

You need to re-read the laws regarding the handling and storing of classified information again.
not that you will. all it takes to break the law is gross negligence which comey himself said that she
was guilty of until strzok changed it.

 

[Mr Person]

So basically there is no evidence that Hillary's server had ever been hacked, YES? YOu are making a statement that it had been hacked but have no evidence and noether does anyone else. From what i read the people who were keeping her server from being hacked said it had never been, so again you are proving it has been by saying there is no proof that it not been hacked?

That's probably the intellectually dishonest intent behind that post and that kind of post.

Really, all it's down to these days is throwing an unsupported factual assertion wrapped in aggressive-sounding word salads at "liberals", then patting oneself on the back for having won something.

 

[jnug]

Ahhhhhhh but it was;

From the group of 30,000 e-mails returned to the State Department, 110 e-mails in 52 e-mail chains have been determined by the owning agency to contain classified information at the time they were sent or received. Eight of those chains contained information that was Top Secret at the time they were sent; 36 chains contained Secret information at the time; and eight contained Confidential information, which is the lowest level of classification.

https://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/p...-clinton2019s-use-of-a-personal-e-mail-system

Over two years ago this statement was made, it's been disseminated countless times and still people outright lie about what it says or say things about it out ignorance. Sad

But not documents as attachments. You can't open classified documents from a private email server. Nobody can. What you are referring to is the discussions within the body of 110 emails shared of the 30,000 emails reviewed which is likely the same stone Ivanka has likely tripped over.

Again the message should have been "don't do it" under any circumstances as few if any people are organized enough to recognize that they have veered over the line into a classified area in their email discussions. Ivanka had the easy and recent Hillary example sitting right in front of her. Hillary had the Bush Jr era officials examples sitting right in front of her. Nobody appears to learn.

 

[hanger4]

So basically there is no evidence that Hillary's server had ever been hacked, YES? YOu are making a statement that it had been hacked but have no evidence and noether does anyone else. From what i read the people who were keeping her server from being hacked said it had never been, so again you are proving it has been by saying there is no proof that it not been hacked?

You ignore Comey's words;

"But, given the nature of the system and of the actors potentially involved, we assess that we would be unlikely to see such direct evidence."

It was not determined that HRC's server had not been hacked.

 

[lwf]

Straight from Comey's briefing.

From the group of 30,000 e-mails returned to the State Department, 110 e-mails in 52 e-mail chains have been determined by the owning agency to contain classified information at the time they were sent or received. Eight of those chains contained information that was Top Secret at the time they were sent; 36 chains contained Secret information at the time; and eight contained Confidential information, which is the lowest level of classification. Separate from those, about 2,000 additional e-mails were “up-classified” to make them Confidential; the information in those had not been classified at the time the e-mails were sent.

This is exactly what I said. "They were determined by the owning agency to contain classified information at the time they were sent or received" means that the documents should have been marked classified. That they weren't means that the sending and receiving of those documents was not a violation of the law.

This isn't revisionism, this is reality. Revisionism is continuing to make a claim that Hillary Clinton broke the law when a legal investigation determined unequivocally that she hadn't.

 

[hanger4]

They don’t know and hopefully the whole made up scandal will now finally fade into absurdist history. This is the gift from Ivanka.

The only thing "made up" is your "made up scandal" statement.

 

[hanger4]

But not documents as attachments. You can't open classified documents from a private email server. Nobody can. What you are referring to is the discussions within the body of 110 emails shared of the 30,000 emails reviewed which is likely the same stone Ivanka has likely tripped over.

Again the message should have been "don't do it" under any circumstances as few if any people are organized enough to recognize that they have veered over the line into a classified area in their email discussions. Ivanka had the easy and recent Hillary example sitting right in front of her. Hillary had the Bush Jr era officials examples sitting right in front of her. Nobody appears to learn.

Irrelevant, 110 emails were determined to contain classified information at the time they were sent or received.

Your statement was incorrect.

 

[JackA]

The only thing "made up" is your "made up scandal" statement.

So you agree the Ivanka story has taken the poison out of the Hillary story. It has, or soon will, whether you agree or not.

 

[ludin]

This is exactly what I said. "They were determined by the owning agency to contain classified information at the time they were sent or received" means that the documents should have been marked classified. That they weren't means that the sending and receiving of those documents was not a violation of the law.

This isn't revisionism, this is reality. Revisionism is continuing to make a claim that Hillary Clinton broke the law when a legal investigation determined unequivocally that she hadn't.

They were marked classified. what part of that don't you understand?
the classified markings were in the emails.

no history revisionism is saying that she didn't when it is clear that she did and the evidence is right there in front of your face, but
i didn't expect you to be honest. your done have a nice day. your argument has been proven false.

 

[ludin]

Irrelevant, 110 emails were determined to contain classified information at the time they were sent or received.

Your statement was incorrect.

you might as well forget it they have no interest in honesty.
they rarely do.

 

[lwf]

They were marked classified. what part of that don't you understand?
the classified markings were in the emails.

no history revisionism is saying that she didn't when it is clear that she did and the evidence is right there in front of your face, but
i didn't expect you to be honest. your done have a nice day. your argument has been proven false.

I'm glad one of us is convinced.

 

[iguanaman]

Did NOT set up and use a PRIVATE SERVER on her home;

Did NOT send CLASSIFIED DATA over an unsecured email;

Did NOT DESTROY ANY EMAILS, MUCH LESS SUBPOENAED ONES...


Try again leftists...

Used a private server to do Govt. business breaking laws about preserving Govt. records
Hired a private lawyer to sort emails that were "personal".
Denied knowledge of the law she broke.

The last one is the joke given her fathers constant harping about Hillary's practices. It is just another example of the Trump administrations belief that laws don't apply to them.

 

[jnug]

Irrelevant, 110 emails were determined to contain classified information at the time they were sent or received.

Your statement was incorrect.

Ah-huh...I wonder how many times they will determine Ivanka strayed off into discussing classified information in the body of emails. The point is nobody seems to take heed. Same thing happened to Bush Jr officials...Hillary didn't heed. Same thing happened with Hillary...Ivanka didn't heed. The gene pool that Ivanka is from does not suggest more discretion than either officials of the Bush administration or Hillary. So I doubt the numbers will suggest Ivanka did any better than Hillary did and probably worse.

The point is, it was not a lock her up offense in Hillary's case. Did not produce an indictment and that will likely turn out to be the case for Ivanka as well. All of that nonsense was Trump Rally gutter trash. In fact most of what he says and does in office is Trump Rally gutter trash.

 

[hanger4]

This is exactly what I said. "They were determined by the owning agency to contain classified information at the time they were sent or received" means that the documents should have been marked classified. That they weren't means that the sending and receiving of those documents was not a violation of the law.

This isn't revisionism, this is reality. Revisionism is continuing to make a claim that Hillary Clinton broke the law when a legal investigation determined unequivocally that she hadn't.

That's not what the investigation determined, Comey said HRC didn't intend to violate the law;

"Although we did not find clear evidence that Secretary Clinton or her colleagues intended to violate laws governing the handling of classified information"

https://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/p...-clinton2019s-use-of-a-personal-e-mail-system

 

[hanger4]

So you agree the Ivanka story has taken the poison out of the Hillary story. It has, or soon will, whether you agree or not.

That's not what I said at all. If IK sent classified information via her private accout we'll have a comparison, but that has yet to be determined.

 

[hanger4]

Ah-huh...I wonder how many times they will determine Ivanka strayed off into discussing classified information in the body of emails. The point is nobody seems to take heed. Same thing happened to Bush Jr officials...Hillary didn't heed. Same thing happened with Hillary...Ivanka didn't heed. The gene pool that Ivanka is from does not suggest more discretion than either officials of the Bush administration or Hillary. So I doubt the numbers will suggest Ivanka did any better than Hillary did and probably worse.

The point is, it was not a lock her up offense in Hillary's case. Did not produce an indictment and that will likely turn out to be the case for Ivanka as well. All of that nonsense was Trump Rally gutter trash. In fact most of what he says and does in office is Trump Rally gutter trash.

We know for a fact there was classified information on HRC's, a 7 email chain of Top Secret/SAP even.

We know for a fact, according to Comey, HRC didn't intend to violate the law, but she did.

We also know for a fact that as SOS HRC was profoundly incompetent, at the very least, handling classified information.

 

[Rogue Valley]

Perhaps Trumps "Princess" is above US law.