It's 10/7/23 and Israel must obey your will to the letter.

[oneworld2]

No dead Palestinians serve my interests. Conversely, you've made it abundantly clear that dead Palestinians serve your own interests, as a whip to flog Israel with. You are relentless in your obsession to be served by dead Palestinian bodies on an almost daily basis.

Of course they do, if they are killed by Assads forces you mention them and cry that others haven't

If they are killed by the IDF you blame Hamas without ever realizing/acknowledging Israel has been killing and ethnically cleansing Palestinians since before the state even came into being.

In a thread about Palestinian kids being shot in the head by the IDF you couldn't even comment on it. It doesn't get much clearer than that.

I see right through you. Troubling, isn't it?

The above projection is expected by me from you. It's what all the Israeli state apologists end up resorting to along with fake charges of Jew hatred as you have also had to resort to

Are you inadvertently admitting that Israel is defending itself against Palestinians, instead of defending itself against Hamas and Hezbollah? Your sentence above exposes that admission - which, considering the context of this exchange, would be great progress on your part.

Hamas ARE Palestinians and Hezbollah are their allies.

Israel hasn't the legitimate right to claim self defence against Hamas seeing as it is illegally occupying Palestine, including Gaza.

Au contraire - I've been nothing but objective. Because objectively speaking, nobody's hands are clean, including the US. Any other assertion, including your own, would be completely subjective.

" Au contraire " ffs lol how pretentious is that lol

How can you claim any objectivity when you cannot even mention that ongoing and long standing illegal Israeli actions are the reason for the rocket fire? You can't.

How can you claim any objectivity when you cannot even acknowledge or mention the IDF murder of Palestinian kids in a thread about IDF murders of Palestinian kids? you can't.

Virtually all sides hands are dirty in wars, you saying it as though it is somehow the champion element to convey an objective outlook is hysterical!!!

That you believe it will dupe people into believing you are objective is super hysterical!!!

Don't look now, but ....



TBC ....

Projection #101, I have put meat on the bones of my claims about your content, you have not which is kind of what your posts are about imo

 

[Bodi]

LOL this is denial of basic history

Of course you don't even attempt to prove anything. LOL

 

[oneworld2]

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Just as predicted. Is it any wonder you can't resist being a tool of Hamas? No - it isn't.

^^^^

You don't appear to realize that every time you post that giph it is in response to a post that puts the meat on the bones of my claims regarding your ongoing Israeli apologetics/bias and you do it because you cannot refute them.

A post that owns you?

Bring out the horse giph and hope nobody noticed you never made any attempt to refute the evidence provided that supports the claim made against you

 

[Bodi]

You've got nothing, Zionism is the initial aggression and that's just the truth of the matter that anyone with any objectivity wouldn't deny for a moment

That isn't correct either... the Jews were run out by the Romans. The Palestinians benefitted from anti-Jewish sentiments then complained when the Jews wanted to live peacefully in a former land that had no government.

 

[MamboDervish]

^^^^

You don't appear to realize that every time you post that giph it is in response to a post that puts the meat on the bones of my claims regarding your ongoing Israeli apologetics/bias and you do it because you cannot refute them.

A post that owns you?

Bring out the horse giph and hope nobody noticed you never made any attempt to refute the evidence provided that supports the claim made against you

 

[jaypatriot]

Palestinian nationalism is akin to Israeli nationalism but you accept Israeli nationalism only because your posts show a strong bias. It's just that simple and that obvious

There was always a Palestinian people despite them being occupied, like there was always a Jewish people dispersed across the world.

Zionism is the initial aggressor from which everything else is just a reaction

You have no concept of what is fair , obviously. It seems like your capacity to understand justice is impaired by the bias, as is so often the case

The British had no just right to give the land of one people to another people. If you don't understand that, and you obviously don't, then it only confirms your struggle with understanding concepts such as justice.

And just how is 'justice' enforced? By the U.N.? By the ICC?
International law? By the Koran? Where is justice decided?
According to the Hamas Palestinians and Hezbollah it is determined by the barrel of a gun.
Israel is a sovereign country fighting for its existence. Israel's war is an existential threat.
Is Gaza a sovereign country?
Is Lebanon controlled by Hezbollah a sovereign country?
Who decides what is right and just?

 

[Serenity]

It's not a nice thing to say

No shit.

 

[Serenity]

And if Hamas Chooses protected status locations as their prime bases?

Blow the hell out of them elsewhere.

Obviously militants are vile creatures for positioning themselves in the vicinity, inviting hostilities. I've been saying that for years. Aren't we supposed to be better than them??????
There isn't a decent and respectable health worker in this world, which I am, that would be ok with a hospital, whose primary purpose is to house sick and injured civilians, being considered a legitimate target during war.

 

[jaypatriot]

You looked at that list and the only thing you can say is, "No one's hands are clean"

So you ignore it and focus on some war crimes by Hezbollah and Hamas?

That should tell everyone just how highly selective and biased your positions really are.

Hezbollah and Hamas and the Houthis too have been saying that as soon as the Israeli atrocities against the Palestinians stop, so will their attacks.

You should just come out and say that you don't believe that the Palestinians have ANY rights to end the 57 year long illegal Israeli atrocities list I compiled.

You too start at step 2 instead of step 1 so as to paint the aggressors as the victims. And you expect to be taken seriously?

You are absolutely right I am biased.
I am biased against fanatical terrorist Islamists who are obsessed with the extermination and murdering of Jews who only want to co-exist on their land which was made legal by the U.N. in 1947.
Palestine is not a legitimate country.
I realize those obvious facts are not understood or accepted by Jew-hating supporters of crazed Islamists who hate Israel because that country has successfully created a thriving democracy in the middle of hateful Arabs who only wish to destroy and not to build a successful country.

 

[zincwarrior]

Screw it. If I were the Israelis:
1. Nuke Iran. Their government, and major populations. End them as a people.
2. Mass air strikes to destroy their air force, missiles, and oil industry. Hit snything left with NBC until there is no one left.
3. Blockade Gaza . Destroy their water and power. Everyone in Gaza dies in the next six months from lack of water.
4. Kill everything in Southern Lebanon. Leave none alive.
5. Go to the UN. State we are building ten nukes a month. Anyone F's with us we will nuke every one of you, including Russia.

 

[Gardener]

You people always want to dismiss that there was no Palestine Nation. The British and the U.N. had to do something and what they offered was fair to all. Jews agreed. Palestinians and Arabs wanted to attack, fight, murder and die. Big differences.

They also pretend that Jewish people did not live there 3000 years before the so-called "Palestinians" were invented.

 

[Gardener]

The only one beating a dead horse is yourself in trying to portray yourself as some kind of neutral when every post you make here is clearly slanted towards Israel and against the Palestinians

The points raised in reply 17 nails your sophistry to the mast and that's why you didn't actually respond to them.

You have said many times that you support murdering Jews. You call them illegal occupiers in a land that their ancestors named over 3000 years ago.

What kind of name do you think Jerusalem is, anyway?

 

[jaypatriot]

Screw it. If I were the Israelis:
1. Nuke Iran. Their government, and major populations. End them as a people.
2. Mass air strikes to destroy their air force, missiles, and oil industry. Hit snything left with NBC until there is no one left.
3. Blockade Gaza . Destroy their water and power. Everyone in Gaza dies in the next six months from lack of water.
4. Kill everything in Southern Lebanon. Leave none alive.
5. Go to the UN. State we are building ten nukes a month. Anyone F's with us we will nuke every one of you, including Russia.

I see you are channeling Gen. Jack D. Ripper from the movie "Dr.Strangelove". Perhaps he was right when talking about how to deal with intransigent enemies.

(simply substitute Islamic radical for "Communist".)
Jack D. Ripper: "war is too important to be left to politicians. They have neither the time, the training, nor the inclination for strategic thought. I can no longer sit back and allow Communist infiltration, Communist indoctrination, Communist subversion and the international Communist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids."

 

[Real blank]

Want to try that again in English?

What didn’t you understand?

 

[Gardener]

What didn’t you understand?

He did not understand that not everybody shares his vision of one world crushed under the jack boot of fundamentalist Islam.

 

[Evilroddy]

And how many Israeli troops, from a population of 5-7 million, are you willing to sacrifice to the gods of surgical precision?

coyote505:

As many as it takes to get the job done.

Be well and be safe.
Evilroddy.

 

[Evilroddy]

I think it would be easier just to move the entire country.

zincwarrior:

Land is immoveable and Palestinians share immoveable rights to the land too. So neither group should move and both groups must learn to live in peace.

Be well and be safe.
Evilroddy.

 

[Evilroddy]

I don't think Israel would do that. Wouldn't it make Jews a minority in Israel?

This is a temporary displacement until the fighting has died down and Gaza is made habitable again. According to the OP's instructions they have no choice but to follow these orders to the letter.

See above.

See above too.

I hate to say but that sounds a bit like a concentration camp.

Nope, temporary refugee camps which are well supplied and well run. That's why the medical and educational personnel moved with the rest of the civilians.

What territories? A question not a criticism.

Shebaa Farms, Part of a village that was divided when the Israelis pulled out c. 2000 and another small territory a valley in the foothills of the Golan Heights, the name of which escapes me now.

I believe that is happening now.

No, the Likud Party, PM Netanyahu himself and the crazed fanatics in Netanyahu's governing coalition all say no, nay, never. That rejection is even written into the Likud Party charter. But as per the OP's instructions, this plan overrules them all.

Interesting.

Okay. Figuring out new ways to kill people en masse is not interesting to me. But the task set out by the OP in this thread required that type of thinking. I should point out that none of these ideas were mine and they were well known and discussed before the State of Israel decided to level 80% of Gaza and kill tens of thousands on innocent civilians. Various ministers of Netanyahu's governing coalition including Netanyahu himself have made it clear that the Israeli's military approach is designed to maximize Gazan casualties. Why? Reasons vary from bloody-minded vengeance, to inducing multi-generational trauma as a lesson for the ages to outright genocide.

Be well and be safe.
Evilroddy.

 

[zincwarrior]

I see you are channeling Gen. Jack D. Ripper from the movie "Dr.Strangelove". Perhaps he was right when talking about how to deal with intransigent enemies.

(simply substitute Islamic radical for "Communist".)
Jack D. Ripper: "war is too important to be left to politicians. They have neither the time, the training, nor the inclination for strategic thought. I can no longer sit back and allow Communist infiltration, Communist indoctrination, Communist subversion and the international Communist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids."

They cannot fight you if they are dead.

I don't give a dog's damn about Israel. But all my life they have been slaughtered, just for the sin if being Jewish. If I were them, the time for Payback is at hand.

 

[jaypatriot]

They cannot fight you if they are dead.

I don't give a dog's damn about Israel. But all my life they have been slaughtered, just for the sin if being Jewish. If I were them, the time for Payback is at hand.

I would imagine there are many thousands of IDF members and probably hundreds of thousands of Israelis who feel the same way.
Just like Texans after the Alamo and all Americans after Pearl Harbor.

 

[snakestretcher]

He did not understand that not everybody shares his vision of one world crushed under the jack boot of fundamentalist Islam.

How immature. Do better.

 

[snakestretcher]

What didn’t you understand?

Your appalling use of English grammar.

 

[oneworld2]

And just how is 'justice' enforced? By the U.N.? By the ICC?

By the application of international law to the conflict, that's how we get to the just part of it.

And then by UNSC resolutions and if need be suspension of Israeli membership to the UN. Basically by BDS, Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions,

International law? By the Koran? Where is justice decided?

International law, that's what it was created for.

According to the Hamas Palestinians and Hezbollah it is determined by the barrel of a gun.

They have mirrored the Israeli approach because that's Israels tactics too but you will never admit it

Israel is a sovereign country fighting for its existence. Israel's war is an existential threat.

Nope it's fighting the locals because it wants their land. The Palestinian resistance is the one fighting the existential fight but you would never admit that either

Is Gaza a sovereign country?

It's a state recognized by some 147 iirc countries. Israel has been, along with the US, denying them sovereignty for 57 years.

Is Lebanon controlled by Hezbollah a sovereign country?

Of course Lebanon is a sovereign country, it doesn't matter about the internal dynamics of the political situation, Lebanon is a sovereign country

Who decides what is right and just?

International law and the UN imo, that's what both were created for

 

[oneworld2]

You have said many times that you support murdering Jews.

If you attack and kill Israeli soldiers in a just war for national liberation, it's not " murder"

I support the Palestinian right to engage in armed struggle in the context of a war of liberation

Your understanding of these things is extremely poor and nobody is going to be goaded by such obvious rubbish as the above.

You call them illegal occupiers in a land that their ancestors named over 3000 years ago.

Not just me, the highest court in the world just made the call, the occupation is illegal, as are the settlements and the apartheid regime that Israel presides over with its collaborators in the PA

The world has changed in 3000 years, you need to get with the programme

What kind of name do you think Jerusalem is, anyway?

Don't see the relevance.

 

[zincwarrior]

I see you are channeling Gen. Jack D. Ripper from the movie "Dr.Strangelove". Perhaps he was right when talking about how to deal with intransigent enemies.

(simply substitute Islamic radical for "Communist".)
Jack D. Ripper: "war is too important to be left to politicians. They have neither the time, the training, nor the inclination for strategic thought. I can no longer sit back and allow Communist infiltration, Communist indoctrination, Communist subversion and the international Communist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids."

Pure distilled water baby!