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danarhea said:Seems that, nowadays, the Bushneviks can no longer torture people in secret jails without members of their own party spilling the beans. Said Trent Lott, "we can't keep our mouths shut". That is good, and to the Republican Senator or staffer who let the cat out of the bag, kudos to you, and may you have a long and successful political career. We need more like you in government.
Article is here.
He's helping the American side dipstick. Can you stop acting like politics is a team sport FOR ONCE?Stu Ghatze said:Oh, ..I get it! Now that Lott is helping to serve your side he is considered, "acceptable".
Stu Ghatze said:Oh, ..I get it! Now that Lott is helping to serve your side he is considered, "acceptable".
Never mind that the democrat bozo's in the senate tried to destroy him, & label him as a racist not that long ago because he said some words to make an old fart feel good about his 100th birthday.(Strom Thurmon)
Maybe that will shorten Lott's pennance time, ..& make him almost human again to the senate democrats?:smile:
danarhea said:Seems that, nowadays, the Bushneviks can no longer torture people in secret jails without members of their own party spilling the beans. Said Trent Lott, "we can't keep our mouths shut". That is good, and to the Republican Senator or staffer who let the cat out of the bag, kudos to you, and may you have a long and successful political career. We need more like you in government.
Article is here.
KCConservative said:What is a Bushnevik? Is that a way of insulting people who support the president?
In other words, the typical hate agenda toward this president.danarhea said:Actually, the far left, if that is who you are referring to, dont like the term either, since it associates Bush with a few of their own heroes. The term itself was coined by Conservative writer Lew Rockwell, and has been used by other true Conservatives. It stems from Neocon, which embraces parts of Communist philosophy - Not the economic part, but the big government and Machiavellian parts of Communism. Irving Kristol, the father of Neoconservatism, was a card carrying member of the Communist party. His son, William Kristol, has frequently stated that he would support a Liberal who was also a hawk over a Conservative.
In short, Bushnevik is as Bushnevik does.
KCConservative said:In other words, the typical hate agenda toward this president.
Wrong. When criticism is based in reality, then it is worth considering. The left has no solutions or plan....just hate Bush, no metter what. America sees through it.debate_junkie said:hmm as opposed to worshipping Bush/Cheyney and the Republican Congress, believing everything they do/say is for the good of the country, and never being able to admit that any of those 3 make errors? riiiiiight.
Hey, it's a Navy Pride clone! He also likes to say the left has "no solutions or plan". I'll ask you the same question I asked him, which he never answered by the way. If the left has no solutions, then what the hell do you call the entire liberal ideology then?KCConservative said:Wrong. When criticism is based in reality, then it is worth considering. The left has no solutions or plan....just hate Bush, no metter what. America sees through it.
Binary_Digit said:...the Democrats don't have any legitimate arguments against Bush at all, they only exist for the purpose of hating him.
KCConservative said:Wrong. When criticism is based in reality, then it is worth considering. The left has no solutions or plan....just hate Bush, no metter what. America sees through it.
Which America is that? Look at any current poll and you'll see that Bush is in serious trouble. America, as you put it, does not approve of him, his war, his ideas. You should be damn happy that there weren't any mid-term elections this year...KCConservative said:Wrong. When criticism is based in reality, then it is worth considering. The left has no solutions or plan....just hate Bush, no metter what. America sees through it.
Binary_Digit said:Hey, it's a Navy Pride clone! He also likes to say the left has "no solutions or plan". I'll ask you the same question I asked him, which he never answered by the way. If the left has no solutions, then what the hell do you call the entire liberal ideology then?
- Keep abortion legal, minimize unwanted pregnancies through education
- Federal funding for stem cell research
- Abolish Federal death penalty, encourage States to do the same
- Civil unions for homosexuals
- Higher taxes for the rich, lower taxes for the middle class
- War is a last resort, not a preemptive strike
Nope, no solutions here. I guess the Democrats don't have any legitimate arguments against Bush at all, they only exist for the purpose of hating him. :shock:
Binary_Digit said:KCConservative, you are pathetic at debating and you make your party look bad. Have a nice day!
I'm sorry for being so disrespectful to you. When someone's only rebuttal is to blatently take my words out of context, it kinda ticks me off. That's not debate, it's childish. So I got childish in return. Sorry. :3oops:KCConservative said::roll: brilliant. :mrgreen:
Quit using the term "left" as if its all unified and the same. The reason why you say that "the left" has no plan is because there is little unity, too many groups.KCConservative said:Wrong. When criticism is based in reality, then it is worth considering. The left has no solutions or plan....just hate Bush, no metter what. America sees through it.
Binary_Digit said:Hey, it's a Navy Pride clone! He also likes to say the left has "no solutions or plan". I'll ask you the same question I asked him, which he never answered by the way. If the left has no solutions, then what the hell do you call the entire liberal ideology then?
- Keep abortion legal, minimize unwanted pregnancies through education
- Federal funding for stem cell research
- Abolish Federal death penalty, encourage States to do the same
- Civil unions for homosexuals
- Higher taxes for the rich, lower taxes for the middle class
- War is a last resort, not a preemptive strike
Nope, no solutions here. I guess the Democrats don't have any legitimate arguments against Bush at all, they only exist for the purpose of hating him. :shock:
Binary_Digit said:Hey, it's a Navy Pride clone! He also likes to say the left has "no solutions or plan". I'll ask you the same question I asked him, which he never answered by the way. If the left has no solutions, then what the hell do you call the entire liberal ideology then?
- Keep abortion legal, minimize unwanted pregnancies through education
- Federal funding for stem cell research
- Abolish Federal death penalty, encourage States to do the same
- Civil unions for homosexuals
- Higher taxes for the rich, lower taxes for the middle class
- War is a last resort, not a preemptive strike
Nope, no solutions here. I guess the Democrats don't have any legitimate arguments against Bush at all, they only exist for the purpose of hating him. :shock:
Binary_Digit said:I'm sorry for being so disrespectful to you. When someone's only rebuttal is to blatently take my words out of context, it kinda ticks me off. That's not debate, it's childish. So I got childish in return. Sorry. :3oops:
Danarhea, I don't necessarily agree with all those liberal "solutions" either, so I wasn't planning on defending them hehe! I only wanted to show that it's untrue to say they have "no solutions."
But on stem cell research, I will argue that it's not comparable to beer, because it's not just some private industry producing consumer goods. It's the cure for cancer, diabetes, paralysis, and maybe AIDS. I don't want another permanent Federal bereaucracy, I want to accelerate this research and perfect the techniques so the private doctors can start treating their patients. Once the technique is actually in use, there is probably no need for Federal help, but until then it does need help to get off the ground. It costs money to research and test a new medical discovery enough so that it's safe to use on people. I'd be happy for my tax dollars to help move potentially the biggest medical breakthrough since penecillin from the lab to the clinic.
danarhea said:That is good, and to the Republican Senator or staffer who let the cat out of the bag, kudos to you, and may you have a long and successful political career. We need more like you in government.
http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Senator_tells_CNN_he_believes_Republican_1108.html
Ok, I'll reword them so they imply something's being solved. :2razz:Crispy said:These aren't solutions. These are beliefs and issues. A solution implies something's being solved like the problem of healthcare costs, terrorism etc..
I can't speak for all Democrats, but I should imagine national security is high on the list. I'm inclined to believe that both sides (most people) have similar overall goals for the country, they would agree on what problems are important to address, but the only debate is over the best way to solve them.Crispy said:Question is what problems do democrats acknowlege as important and how do they intend to solve those problems?
Haha! Actually, I support a strong military. I'm especially in favor of giving them all the equipment they need. I think too many liberals have forgotten the "walk softly but carry a big stick" philosophy. There's nothing wrong with having a military, or a gun for that matter. A tool is only as good as the tool who uses it. :lol:Deegan said:Tax and spend for everything but the protection of the country, yep, you have nailed it down pretty well sir.
Oh, I totally agree that stem cell technology and the entire medical industry should remain privatized. I'm saying the federal funding should be temporary, just to fund the research until safe methods are developed for humans. Is that not a good idea, even if it's temporary? Kick-start the industry and push ahead the date we can start curing people of these ailments.danarhea said:We still disagree. Although I concur that stem research is a noble cause, having the government being responsible for it is irresponsible. Private enterprise is the only sensible way to do this, in order to avoid the increased costs and corruption which are associated with government. That is why my beer analogy.
Stinger said:So you want more people in government who leak classified information? Does this signal your new found support for Libby and perhaps Rove?
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