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It’s official: Florida has gone full on crazy and dangerous.

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“You’re talking about doing something that no other state in the United States has done in removing the vaccine mandate for public schools,” Tapper said. “You’re making a decision that no other surgeon general in the United States has done. It goes against what’s recommended by every top medical organization including the AMA, the American Academy of Pediatrics, the Boston Center on Emerging Infectious Diseases. It goes against with parents in Florida want — 82 percent of parents in Florida schools said public schools should require vaccines for measles and polio with health and religious exemptions. It goes against what Senator Rick Scott, a Republican from Florida, wants. He thinks sticking with a religious exemption is fine. It goes against the Florida Medical Association, which in the past has backed Governor [Ron] DeSantis. So all of these people are wrong, and you are right?!”

“I’m looking at this report from your department from April showing that more people in Florida are seeking religious exemptions for vaccines and at the same time Florida is seeing rising cases of hepatitis A, and whooping cough, and chicken pox,” Tapper told Dr. Ladapo. “This is in your own report, your own department’s report. Before you made this decision to try to lift vaccine mandates for Florida — which include obviously public schools — did your department do any data analysis? Did you do any data projection of how many new cases of these diseases there will be in Florida once you remove vaccine mandates?”

Ladapo said “absolutely not,” and argued that mandates “don’t have anything to do with the notion of transmission. He added,
“ultimately, this is an issue, very clearly, of parents’ rights. So do I need to analyze whether it’s appropriate for parents to be able to decide what goes into the children’s bodies? I don’t need to do an analysis on that.”

Tapper was incredulous.

“You’re trying to lift the vaccine mandate in Florida, and your department and you did not even do a projection as to how this could impact public health,” Tapper said. “So you have not prepared hospitals in the Florida counties, most at risk, with the best treatments for any outbreaks of measles, mumps, rubella, whooping cough, polio. And you have not looked into how many kids might now get these preventable diseases? That’s what you’re saying?!”

“No, that’s what you said,” Dr. Ladapo replied. “What I’m saying is that it’s an issue of right and wrong in terms of whether parents should be able to control, have ultimate authority over what happens to their kids’ bodies.”


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Florida's anti-science woo woo bullshit is going to make people sick or worse outside of the state. If sanity is ever restored, a heavier hand is going to have to be taken where national public health is concerned.
 
It may be best to build a wall around Florida and make them pay for it. We don’t want diseased Floridians roaming freely in America, infecting children, eating pets and whatever other weird stuff they will do if they are let loose.
 
“You’re talking about doing something that no other state in the United States has done in removing the vaccine mandate for public schools,” Tapper said. “You’re making a decision that no other surgeon general in the United States has done. It goes against what’s recommended by every top medical organization including the AMA, the American Academy of Pediatrics, the Boston Center on Emerging Infectious Diseases. It goes against with parents in Florida want — 82 percent of parents in Florida schools said public schools should require vaccines for measles and polio with health and religious exemptions. It goes against what Senator Rick Scott, a Republican from Florida, wants. He thinks sticking with a religious exemption is fine. It goes against the Florida Medical Association, which in the past has backed Governor [Ron] DeSantis. So all of these people are wrong, and you are right?!”

“I’m looking at this report from your department from April showing that more people in Florida are seeking religious exemptions for vaccines and at the same time Florida is seeing rising cases of hepatitis A, and whooping cough, and chicken pox,” Tapper told Dr. Ladapo. “This is in your own report, your own department’s report. Before you made this decision to try to lift vaccine mandates for Florida — which include obviously public schools — did your department do any data analysis? Did you do any data projection of how many new cases of these diseases there will be in Florida once you remove vaccine mandates?”

Ladapo said “absolutely not,” and argued that mandates “don’t have anything to do with the notion of transmission. He added,
“ultimately, this is an issue, very clearly, of parents’ rights. So do I need to analyze whether it’s appropriate for parents to be able to decide what goes into the children’s bodies? I don’t need to do an analysis on that.”

Tapper was incredulous.

“You’re trying to lift the vaccine mandate in Florida, and your department and you did not even do a projection as to how this could impact public health,” Tapper said. “So you have not prepared hospitals in the Florida counties, most at risk, with the best treatments for any outbreaks of measles, mumps, rubella, whooping cough, polio. And you have not looked into how many kids might now get these preventable diseases? That’s what you’re saying?!”

“No, that’s what you said,” Dr. Ladapo replied. “What I’m saying is that it’s an issue of right and wrong in terms of whether parents should be able to control, have ultimate authority over what happens to their kids’ bodies.”


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So if it's all about parents rights, will the state provide vaccinations to kids whose parents want it?
Anti-vaccine parents have a route out of the vaccine mandate, will pro-vaccine parents have a route out of this new policy?
 
I absolutely love this. I mean, it is the most awesome thing I've ever seen. It's like when they realized Lead Based Paint was potentially dangerous. The people rush out and demand Lead Based Paint because it lasts longer. Or demanding Asbestos in their homes as insulation.

At this rate, I'm going to run out of popcorn before they run out of stupid.
 
“You’re talking about doing something that no other state in the United States has done in removing the vaccine mandate for public schools,” Tapper said. “You’re making a decision that no other surgeon general in the United States has done. It goes against what’s recommended by every top medical organization including the AMA, the American Academy of Pediatrics, the Boston Center on Emerging Infectious Diseases. It goes against with parents in Florida want — 82 percent of parents in Florida schools said public schools should require vaccines for measles and polio with health and religious exemptions. It goes against what Senator Rick Scott, a Republican from Florida, wants. He thinks sticking with a religious exemption is fine. It goes against the Florida Medical Association, which in the past has backed Governor [Ron] DeSantis. So all of these people are wrong, and you are right?!”

“I’m looking at this report from your department from April showing that more people in Florida are seeking religious exemptions for vaccines and at the same time Florida is seeing rising cases of hepatitis A, and whooping cough, and chicken pox,” Tapper told Dr. Ladapo. “This is in your own report, your own department’s report. Before you made this decision to try to lift vaccine mandates for Florida — which include obviously public schools — did your department do any data analysis? Did you do any data projection of how many new cases of these diseases there will be in Florida once you remove vaccine mandates?”

Ladapo said “absolutely not,” and argued that mandates “don’t have anything to do with the notion of transmission. He added,
“ultimately, this is an issue, very clearly, of parents’ rights. So do I need to analyze whether it’s appropriate for parents to be able to decide what goes into the children’s bodies? I don’t need to do an analysis on that.”

Tapper was incredulous.

“You’re trying to lift the vaccine mandate in Florida, and your department and you did not even do a projection as to how this could impact public health,” Tapper said. “So you have not prepared hospitals in the Florida counties, most at risk, with the best treatments for any outbreaks of measles, mumps, rubella, whooping cough, polio. And you have not looked into how many kids might now get these preventable diseases? That’s what you’re saying?!”

“No, that’s what you said,” Dr. Ladapo replied. “What I’m saying is that it’s an issue of right and wrong in terms of whether parents should be able to control, have ultimate authority over what happens to their kids’ bodies.”


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In addition to it being crazy and dangerous, it's risky for the GOP. Who do they think the public will blame when infectious diseases begin to proliferate in Florida?

I suspect this will adversely affect Florida's tourism (it's largest industry).

I read yesterday that 4 states have bills in the hopper mimicking Florida's law. Sorry, I only remember one of them, Alabama.
 
Florida's anti-science woo woo bullshit is going to make people sick or worse outside of the state. If sanity is ever restored, a heavier hand is going to have to be taken where national public health is concerned.
Yep. I have no intention of ever traveling to Florida, but these anti-vax crazies will travel outside of the state spreading disease.
 
Yep. I have no intention of ever traveling to Florida, but these anti-vax crazies will travel outside of the state spreading disease.
It's a nice state. I visited twenty some years ago. I'd stay away now, though. Anyone with kids knows that schools are disease incubators. They're setting themselves up for bigger problems.
 
“You’re talking about doing something that no other state in the United States has done in removing the vaccine mandate for public schools,” Tapper said. “You’re making a decision that no other surgeon general in the United States has done. It goes against what’s recommended by every top medical organization including the AMA, the American Academy of Pediatrics, the Boston Center on Emerging Infectious Diseases. It goes against with parents in Florida want — 82 percent of parents in Florida schools said public schools should require vaccines for measles and polio with health and religious exemptions. It goes against what Senator Rick Scott, a Republican from Florida, wants. He thinks sticking with a religious exemption is fine. It goes against the Florida Medical Association, which in the past has backed Governor [Ron] DeSantis. So all of these people are wrong, and you are right?!”

“I’m looking at this report from your department from April showing that more people in Florida are seeking religious exemptions for vaccines and at the same time Florida is seeing rising cases of hepatitis A, and whooping cough, and chicken pox,” Tapper told Dr. Ladapo. “This is in your own report, your own department’s report. Before you made this decision to try to lift vaccine mandates for Florida — which include obviously public schools — did your department do any data analysis? Did you do any data projection of how many new cases of these diseases there will be in Florida once you remove vaccine mandates?”

Ladapo said “absolutely not,” and argued that mandates “don’t have anything to do with the notion of transmission. He added,
“ultimately, this is an issue, very clearly, of parents’ rights. So do I need to analyze whether it’s appropriate for parents to be able to decide what goes into the children’s bodies? I don’t need to do an analysis on that.”

Tapper was incredulous.

“You’re trying to lift the vaccine mandate in Florida, and your department and you did not even do a projection as to how this could impact public health,” Tapper said. “So you have not prepared hospitals in the Florida counties, most at risk, with the best treatments for any outbreaks of measles, mumps, rubella, whooping cough, polio. And you have not looked into how many kids might now get these preventable diseases? That’s what you’re saying?!”

“No, that’s what you said,” Dr. Ladapo replied. “What I’m saying is that it’s an issue of right and wrong in terms of whether parents should be able to control, have ultimate authority over what happens to their kids’ bodies.”


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I just watched this entire interview. It's good that CNN did this segment as it clearly shows Ladapo to be a nut. Just like RFK Jr.

Ladapo repeatedly said that he is simply protecting the right of parents to control what goes in their children's bodies. And he downplayed the significance of removing vaccine mandates by saying other countries have no mandates and they don't have significant infectious disease problems.

So, we've qot a quack running the HHS department and a quack Surgeon General in Florida. Both promoting policies that are bad for our health. Thanks, Trump.
 
It's my right to give COVID and any other disease I like to others too if I want. It's a free country.
Exactly! It's up to the other person to secure their person from harm. Get a vax, wear face gear, wash hands...etc

Oh wait, was this supposed to be sarcastic!?
 
“No, that’s what you said,” Dr. Ladapo replied. “What I’m saying is that it’s an issue of right and wrong in terms of whether parents should be able to control, have ultimate authority over what happens to their kids’ bodies.”


So then why should their kids be able to endanger other people's kids? Or infants or the elderly or the immuno-suppressed? Not everyone can be vaccinated, depending on their own medical conditions. This is what "herd immunity" is supposed to protect.
 
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I just watched this entire interview. It's good that CNN did this segment as it clearly shows Ladapo to be a nut. Just like RFK Jr.

Ladapo repeatedly said that he is simply protecting the right of parents to control what goes in their children's bodies. And he downplayed the significance of removing vaccine mandates by saying other countries have no mandates and they don't have significant infectious disease problems.

So, we've qot a quack running the HHS department and a quack Surgeon General in Florida. Both promoting policies that are bad for our health. Thanks, Trump.
I turned it on and then turned it off when I saw who was on. I'm tired of listening to their bullshit that ends up hurting people.
 
I absolutely love this. I mean, it is the most awesome thing I've ever seen. It's like when they realized Lead Based Paint was potentially dangerous. The people rush out and demand Lead Based Paint because it lasts longer. Or demanding Asbestos in their homes as insulation.

At this rate, I'm going to run out of popcorn before they run out of stupid.


You'll have to try popping soybeans.

It seems the Chinese are boycotting American soybeans and farmers are already feeling it.

When is this "GREATEST ECONOMY of ANY PRESIDENT" supposed to begin?
 
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Florida.
 
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