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The Israeli army has admitted that three Palestinian men it killed in Gaza on Sunday were civilians, and not terrorists, as previously claimed.
Brig Gen Ayal Eisenberg said one of the men had picked up a grenade launcher abandoned in a field, and Israeli troops mistakenly opened fire, thinking they were about to come under attack.
Among those killed were a 91-year-old farm worker and his grandson, aged 17.
At the time, Israeli army radio described the men as "terrorists", but Gen Ayal Eisenberg now says the soldiers made a mistake.
"The civilians killed by our soldiers' fire... were not involved in any terrorist operation," he told army radio.
"Our soldiers identified a civilian who was picking up an RPG [rocket propelled grenade] and, thinking he was going to fire at them, opened fire" in his direction, he added.
Separately, a report published by an Israeli human rights group found that Israeli soldiers who kill Palestinians were rarely punished.
The B'Tselem report released on Tuesday said that the military investigated only 22 of 148 cases submitted by the group.
No criminal charges were brought in any of the cases, which involved the killing of 288 Palestinian civilians between 2006 and 2009, it said.
Separately, a report published by an Israeli human rights group found that Israeli soldiers who kill Palestinians were rarely punished.
The B'Tselem report released on Tuesday said that the military investigated only 22 of 148 cases submitted by the group.
No criminal charges were brought in any of the cases, which involved the killing of 288 Palestinian civilians between 2006 and 2009, it said.
That's just plain sad.
So what exactly was this civilian doing? The soldier identified him picking up an RPG. Seems quite improbable since the General just said none of those killed were involved in any terrorist operation.
No criminal charges were brought in any of the cases, which involved the killing of 288 Palestinian civilians between 2006 and 2009, it said.
Prosecutors present letter of indictment against former border guard Omri Abu, charging him with causing death by negligence in shooting of 10-year-old Palestinian boy in Na'alin in 2008.
well actually it depends, do you know the time of day in which this unfortanate incident took place?
using night vision you can easily confuse RPG with a agriculture equipment...
the identity of what the guy picked up was not in question. I am sure, after the incident they confiscated it. the GEN is stating that the soldiers mistook the guy's intent, not mistook what he picked up.
so he did pick up an RPG?
That was my understanding as well. I guess somebody ditched the RPG and this poor sap picked it up and pointed it (inadvertently or otherwise) at the IDF.
The Israeli army has admitted that three Palestinian men it killed in Gaza on Sunday were civilians, and not terrorists, as previously claimed.
Brig Gen Ayal Eisenberg said one of the men had picked up a grenade launcher abandoned in a field, and Israeli troops mistakenly opened fire, thinking they were about to come under attack.
Thats a lie.
heres a first result from simple googling:
Border policeman accused in killing of Palestinian boy - Haaretz Daily Newspaper | Israel News
I believe 2008 is somewhere in between 2006 and 2009.
The B'Tselem report released on Tuesday said that the military investigated only 22 of 148 cases submitted by the group.
Ahmed Musa, 10 years old, was shot in the head in July 2008, after a demonstration against the construction of the separation barrier in the West Bank village of Ni'lin. Today the prosecution indicted the border police officer involved with negligent manslaughter
that was the way I read it. My question is why was the guy picking up an RPG anyway? unexpended/exploded ordinances of any kind are inherently dangerous and can go off with little or no provocation. unless you are trained to use a weapon, you shouldn't be handling it.
If the guy saw it and was concerned, he should've kept an eye on it while one of his buddies flagged down the IDF, who obviously were in the vicinity.
Had the IDF not shot him, he could have just as easily accidentally fired off the RPG and blown up someone's house killing more than 3 innocent civilians.
You have misunderstood what B'tselem have stated. They say that no charges have been brought in the cases they put forward.
And if you'll note, the example you have provided may have taken place in 2008, but nothing happened until this year.
25 May 2010: Border police officer who shot a Palestinian boy charged with negligent manslaughter
B'Tselem - Press Releases - 25 May 2010: Border police officer who shot a Palestinian boy charged with negligent manslaughter
I suggest you spend some time at the link above. Spend a lot of time there, please.
Also a lie, the soldier who has been charged with manslaughter at cast lead was investigated following a B'selem complaint.
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B'selem said "No criminal charges were brought in any of the cases, which involved the killing of 288 Palestinian civilians between 2006 and 2009", meaning the incidents took place at that era, not the charges.
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Who told you I didn't? Actually we were getting their reports to the outposts we were stationed in at the west bank.
Could you back up this claim please?
I'm more inclined to say this was a mistake, not a lie, considering the BBC was taking information from a 'B'tselem report', which is unlikely to include the recent (May) developments.
The small number of your posts I have read suggest otherwise. But fair enough.
For the charges or that B'selem are the ones who filed the charges?
heres the charges: IDF soldier charged with killing woman during Gaza war - Haaretz Daily Newspaper | Israel News
will have to do a better search to find the article claiming it was originated with complaints of several human right groups.
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Come on, that was just one example, there is at least one story like this every year, heres another one from 2008:
Former Border Guard officer convicted of manslaughter - Israel News, Ynetnews
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The small number of posts I've read from you suggest you are just another lies spreading member of the Palestinian propoganda machine.
In addition to the IDF probe, the human rights group B'Tselem also investigated the case and summarized their findings in a letter to the military advocate general in May 2009. The organization collected testimonies from a number of witnesses.
Interesting to see this happening with other countries.
And, from everyone's reactions, you'd think it was the first time *ever* that a civilian was killed over there.
unfortunately...once you pick up a weapon, you cease to be a "civilian"
Is that their opinion of the issue or yours?
I live in an area that's heavily populated with gun-owners. I don't draw connection between "carrying a weapon" and "not being a civilian." To me there's extra steps involved in gracing out of civilianism - which is not affected by where you live, what the status is of your country (peace/war) and so forth.
But, allbeit, my view is probably very Americanized.
you also don't live in a state of terror. huge difference.
Is that their opinion of the issue or yours?
I live in an area that's heavily populated with gun-owners. I don't draw connection between "carrying a weapon" and "not being a civilian." To me there's extra steps involved in gracing out of civilianism - which is not affected by where you live, what the status is of your country (peace/war) and so forth.
But, allbeit, my view is probably very Americanized.
That was my understanding as well. I guess somebody ditched the RPG and this poor sap picked it up and pointed it (inadvertently or otherwise) at the IDF.
Hmm, one will have to differ one weapon from the other, a small hand gun is not in the same status as a hunting shot gun which is obvioulsly not in the same as an assault rifle and an RPG launcher... well I've never seen anyone using it to scare off burglars or hunt ducks...
While I agree carrying an RPG doesn't make you a terrorist, it does make you a militant, especially at a time RPGs are being fired at IDF tanks
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