Israel Urges U.S. to Join War with Iran to Eliminate Nuclear Program

[snakestretcher]

Nice work defending a poor, incompetent, and shamed ex-president. And you're able to objectively determine "Trump has weakened the readiness of our military services since taking office again."
All without any references or citations to back up your claim. Amazing.

Amazing? I'd suggest 'irrationally stupid' is more apt. That said nobody could accuse that demented geritaric of being rational.

President Trump’s Defense Cuts Degrade National Security

The Trump Administration has weakened America's national security infrastructure under the pretense of efficiency.

time.com

Trump’s Military Purge Spells Trouble for Democracy and Defense

Firing military leaders for perceived disloyalty is often part of a strategy to consolidate regime power—even as it weakens the military.

www.lawfaremedia.org

Opinion | Trump’s partisan army would end American military might

When political loyalty replaces merit for promotion and selection to key commands, effectiveness suffers.

www.msnbc.com

 

[jaypatriot]

If we go to war with Iran we will also be going to war with China and Russia.

Have you been privy to conversations between and amongst the leaders of those countries?
Or are you simply broadcasting your doomsday nonsense to anyone who has no friggin' clue as to what's going on geopolitically?

 

[Tangmo]

If we go to war with Iran we will also be going to war with China and Russia.

Chinese bourgeois people do not want war and the CCP Bois in Beijing led by Xi Jinping know this.

Xi's propaganda machine has made the Chinese people assume Taiwan would be a cakewalk that would have no effect or impact on the mainland and its population which is false. Yet Taiwan has developed its own offensive missiles that reach Beijing, which the Chinese people do not know of. This is while the CCP in Beijing know these Taiwan offensive missiles will hit Beijing, Shanghai and the Three Gorges Dam among numerous strategic targets. Which is why the PLA opposes any military action against Taiwan.

Chinese people do not want a war against the United States. They know it would be seriously and severely destructive to the mainland to include its hundreds of millions of the bourgeoise. These novo riche have everything to lose that they've worked for since 2000. This bourgeoise have only one child they're not going to lose in a war bombardment by the USA that is destructive of family lineage.

 

[Tangmo]

MacGregor is a xenophobic, far-right, Russophile crackpot with zero credibility among actual intelligence experts.

Indeed, MacGregor who retired as a Colonel was shut out from becoming a General Officer because he is totally unsuited to have his hands on policy and strategic decision making, operational command and direction, personnel promotions and so on. MacGregor was a useful Colonel but there was no way he was to get to be a General Officer in the Army.

Wackjob.

 

[Parker_Chess]

No!! We cannot go to war with Iran

 

[Tangmo]

Amazing? I'd suggest 'irrationally stupid' is more apt. That said nobody could accuse that demented geritaric of being rational.

Trump’s Military Purge Spells Trouble for Democracy and Defense

Firing military leaders for perceived disloyalty is often part of a strategy to consolidate regime power—even as it weakens the military.

www.lawfaremedia.org

Opinion | Trump’s partisan army would end American military might

When political loyalty replaces merit for promotion and selection to key commands, effectiveness suffers.

www.msnbc.com

Trump has left untouched dozens and dozens of generals and admirals across the armed services. He removed 6 or 8 DEI generals and admirals at the Pentagon which made the headlines. Yet the reality is that Trump has few if any generals and admirals active duty or retired to do his bidding.

The vast majority of the armed forces chiefs and commanders remain in place who hate Trump's guts which is a reality Trump knows he can't do anything about. There is no "purge" occurring across the armed forces chiefs and commanders at home or abroad.

I suggest you get behind the headlines about the Pentagon to look at the facts and realities across the armed forces at home and abroad, which is that there is no "purge" across the armed forces chiefs and commanders at home an abroad. For one thing, Trump has found out he has no one across the armed forces to turn to, never mind the dozens and dozens he would need to do his bidding that he does not have.

 

[The Brad Dad]

Trump has left untouched dozens and dozens of generals and admirals across the armed services. He removed 6 or 8 DEI generals and admirals at the Pentagon which made the headlines. Yet the reality is that Trump has few if any generals and admirals active duty or retired to do his bidding.

The vast majority of the armed forces chiefs and commanders remain in place who hate Trump's guts which is a reality Trump knows he can't do anything about. There is no "purge" occurring across the armed forces chiefs and commanders at home or abroad.

I suggest you get behind the headlines about the Pentagon to look at the facts and realities across the armed forces at home and abroad, which is that there is no "purge" across the armed forces chiefs and commanders at home an abroad. For one thing, Trump has found out he has no one across the armed forces to turn to, never mind the dozens and dozens he would need to do his bidding that he does not have.

Logistically you’re not wrong. However it’s pretty messed up we have a sitting president that even wants to potentially stage a military coup.

As to the larger topic: I cannot believe we’re here again. Republicans trying to lie the country into another Middle East forever war.

 

[weaver2]

Chinese bourgeois people do not want war and the CCP Bois in Beijing led by Xi Jinping know this.

Xi's propaganda machine has made the Chinese people assume Taiwan would be a cakewalk that would have no effect or impact on the mainland and its population which is false. Yet Taiwan has developed its own offensive missiles that reach Beijing, which the Chinese people do not know of. This is while the CCP in Beijing know these Taiwan offensive missiles will hit Beijing, Shanghai and the Three Gorges Dam among numerous strategic targets. Which is why the PLA opposes any military action against Taiwan.

Chinese people do not want a war against the United States. They know it would be seriously and severely destructive to the mainland to include its hundreds of millions of the bourgeoise. These novo riche have everything to lose that they've worked for since 2000. This bourgeoise have only one child they're not going to lose in a war bombardment by the USA that is destructive of family lineage.

There are many ways to wage war. Bombs and killings are only one way. Do you think China and Russia would sit silently by and do nothing while we bomb the infrastructure they helped Iran put together?

 

[Tangmo]

Logistically you’re not wrong. However it’s pretty messed up we have a sitting president that even wants to potentially stage a military coup.

I know I'm not wrong period thx all the same.

It is unprecedented for sure and Trump is the odd man out.

It's up to him to execute his coup using the National Guard to take control in the Blue cities and in the Blue states. Right now it's the NG that is central to this vile scheme by Trump HimSelf and Miller. The 700 active duty Marines in LA remain peripheral to this and they're not going to put up indefinitely with this duty in the streets of LA that they hate and despise.

On this Trump abuse of the NG the Pentagon is stalling the C'nC Trump. Since May 9th DHS has had a request pending at the Pentagon to provide 20,000 NG troops to DHS for the lunatic mass deportation. Despite Hegseth hounding the Joint Chiefs the DHS request remains in limbo. The JCS know Trump is reluctant to be the one to give the direct order to provide the 20K NG forces for the mass deportation. That Trump HimSelf has not given the order confirms the JCS are right about Trump not wanting to be the culprit perp when the whole thing goes sideways and only if the JCS green light it which they're resisting successfully to date.

 

[weaver2]

Have you been privy to conversations between and amongst the leaders of those countries?
Or are you simply broadcasting your doomsday nonsense to anyone who has no friggin' clue as to what's going on geopolitically?

Since I'm simply broadcasting my doomsday nonsense to anyone who has no friggin' clue as to what's going on geopolitically, why don't you enlighten us with the conversations with Chinese and Russian leaders that you have been privy to. We eagerly await your privileged knowledge.

 

[jaypatriot]

Since I'm simply broadcasting my doomsday nonsense to anyone who has no friggin' clue as to what's going on geopolitically, why don't you enlighten us with the conversations with Chinese and Russian leaders that you have been privy to. We eagerly await your privileged knowledge.

Sorry. I have no such inside knowledge. And for you to assume that I might have such knowledge only tells me you think that others outside the Pentagon do.
If so, you're wrong.

 

[weaver2]

Sorry. I have no such inside knowledge.

Then how do you know that my post was wrong?

 

[Tangmo]

There are many ways to wage war. Bombs and killings are only one way. Do you think China and Russia would sit silently by and do nothing while we bomb the infrastructure they helped Iran put together?

Spare the high school Junior ROTC class plse thx.

The Chinese are not going to war period. There are many reasons the CCP will not go to war. One is that the PLA has not had a military engagement since VN in 1979, which anyway was an in then out Punitive Expedition, not a war of conquest. It was the same in then out "war" into India in the early 1960s. Historically the Chinese are lousy fighters don't you know -- it's why they built a Great Wall.

The corrupt and greedy CCP Bois in Beijing would sit back then impose themselves on Iran to rebuild the infrastructure that Israel and the USA blew up. China is not going to war. And the CCP certainly is not going to war for Iran. Or anyone else.

 

[sanman]

 

[Contumacious]

Israel wants America to go to war for them. This must not happen.
Having started this fight thru its multi-pronged attack, Israel expects America to finish it on their behalf.
This would result in Americans being bogged down in a quagmire far worse than Iraq, given that Iran has twice the population and 3 times the area
Israel want the Americans to socialize the losses, so that they Israel can privatize the gains. Americans would have to suffer all the dead and maimed.

https://www.axios.com/2025/06/14/israel-iran-war-us-nuclear-program-trump

IRAN'S RESPONSE TO THE CIA/MOSSAD 'S DEMAND THAT IT UNCONDITIONALLY SURRENDER

HERE IS THE SEJJIL

DESIGNED TO REMODEL TELAVIV INTO A MODERN AMPLE PARKING LOT

Iran Uses Its Most Powerful Weapon Sejjil – Iran’s Unstoppable Missile​

SEJJIL PERSIAN FOR CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW

 

[Revelation]

IRAN'S RESPONSE TO THE CIA/MOSSAD 'S DEMAND THAT IT UNCONDITIONALLY SURRENDER

HERE IS THE SEJJIL

DESIGNED TO REMODEL TELAVIV INTO A MODERN AMPLE PARKING LOT

Iran Uses Its Most Powerful Weapon Sejjil – Iran’s Unstoppable Missile

in the Ezekiel war, God will stop the missiles.

Russian jets will fall out of the sky. jaws will drop: Israel wins, Iran loses along with Turkey, Russia and other arab states.

they all become Toast.

SEJJIL PERSIAN FOR CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW

 

[weaver2]

in the Ezekiel war, God will stop the missiles. Russian jets will fall out of the sky. jaws will drop: Israel wins, Iran loses along with Turkey, Russia and other arab states. they all become Toast.

Saddling your horse and polishing your armor are you? Didn't anyone tell you the Crusades were over 600 years ago.

 

[snakestretcher]

Trump has left untouched dozens and dozens of generals and admirals across the armed services. He removed 6 or 8 DEI generals and admirals at the Pentagon which made the headlines. Yet the reality is that Trump has few if any generals and admirals active duty or retired to do his bidding.

The vast majority of the armed forces chiefs and commanders remain in place who hate Trump's guts which is a reality Trump knows he can't do anything about. There is no "purge" occurring across the armed forces chiefs and commanders at home or abroad.

I suggest you get behind the headlines about the Pentagon to look at the facts and realities across the armed forces at home and abroad, which is that there is no "purge" across the armed forces chiefs and commanders at home an abroad. For one thing, Trump has found out he has no one across the armed forces to turn to, never mind the dozens and dozens he would need to do his bidding that he does not have.

I do read behind and beyond headlines, and Trump hiring 'yes' men in the military who will do his bidding, and firing those who won't-irrespective of their service record-is deeply concerning. The military is supposed to be uninvolved in political chicanery.

Trump's Ultimate Power Grab: Purging the U.S. Military - The Globalist

In the ultimate power grab, the U.S. President wants to use the U.S. Army as his personal police force.

www.theglobalist.com

 

[Tangmo]

I do read behind and beyond headlines, and Trump hiring 'yes' men in the military who will do his bidding, and firing those who won't-irrespective of their service record-is deeply concerning. The military is supposed to be uninvolved in political chicanery.

Trump's Ultimate Power Grab: Purging the U.S. Military - The Globalist

In the ultimate power grab, the U.S. President wants to use the U.S. Army as his personal police force.

www.theglobalist.com

The military is exercising self defense against the fascist dictator tyrant Generalissimo who demands blood in the streets of unarmed American civilian peaceful protestors.

Your link spends a lot of time on AF Gen. Dan "Razin" Caine who Trump brought out of retirement as the successor chairman of the Joint Chiefs. Trump did what Trump does regularly, ie, he waived certain requirements for the position. Gen. Caine is known across the armed forces as a "straight shooter" and he remains as a straight shooter.

Trump the idiot chose Caine because of his nick "Razin Caine." Recall Gen. "Mad Dog" Mattis caught Trump's fancy as SecDef which didn't last through the second year. As with Mattis, the blunderbuss Generalissimo Trump has no clue of who Gen. Caine actually is, which is a "straight shooter." As is common knowledge, Trump knows nothing about the military, military service and military life.

'I don't believe' Putin will stop in Ukraine: Top general contradicts Trump on Russia​

56,704 Views | Jun 12, 2025

Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman the Air Force Gen. Dan Caine on Wednesday broke with President Donald Trump’s assessment of the threat posed by Russia and the ongoing protests and violence in Los Angeles, The Washington Post reports.


There are no "yes men" in uniform across the armed services to bow to Trump. If there were any "yes men" Trump would have appointed them already and by now. After the November election Trump sent his people out to find generals and admirals who would be loyal to Trump and who would do his bidding. They found NONE.

Your post is a cliche' of nonsense that is in your head and only, removed from the reality of this. Whatever you're reading behind whatever headlines is tripe. I think your posts are faking it myself. Indeed, your posts are not overplaying it either because there's nothing to overplay.

 

[snakestretcher]

The military is exercising self defense against the fascist dictator tyrant Generalissimo who demands blood in the streets of unarmed American civilian peaceful protestors.

Your link spends a lot of time on AF Gen. Dan "Razin" Caine who Trump brought out of retirement as the successor chairman of the Joint Chiefs. Trump did what Trump does regularly, ie, he waived certain requirements for the position. Gen. Caine is known across the armed forces as a "straight shooter" and he remains as a straight shooter.

Trump the idiot chose Cain because of his nick "Razin Caine." Recall Gen. "Mad Dog" Mattis caught Trump's fancy as SecDef which didn't last through the second year. As with Mattis, the blunderbuss Generalissimo Trump has no clue of who Gen. Caine actually is, which is a "straight shooter." As is common knowledge, Trump knows nothing about the military, military service and military life.

'I don't believe' Putin will stop in Ukraine: Top general contradicts Trump on Russia​

56,704 Views | Jun 12, 2025

Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman the Air Force Gen. Dan Caine on Wednesday broke with President Donald Trump’s assessment of the threat posed by Russia and the ongoing protests and violence in Los Angeles, The Washington Post reports.


There are no "yes men" in uniform across the armed services to bow to Trump. If there were any "yes men" Trump would have appointed them already and by now. After the November election Trump sent his people out to find generals and admirals who would be loyal to Trump and who would do his bidding. They found NONE.

Your post is a cliche' of nonsense that is in your head and only, removed from the reality of this. Whatever you're reading behind whatever headlines is tripe. I think your posts are faking it myself. Indeed, your posts are not overplaying it either because there's nothing to overplay.

Trump only appoints those he considers unquestioningly loyal to him, and him alone. His cabinet choices are all you need to know as far as that is concerned, so why would the military be any different? That said I doubt there are many loyalists left, given the insults he has thrown at the military, and the way Trump dismisses the deaths and injuries they suffered, calling them 'losers' and 'suckers'.

 

[Bum]

Israel Urges U.S. to Join War with Iran to Eliminate Nuclear Program​

Hard pass.

 

[NOLA Dude]

I hope Hersch is wrong



And just like we said, it won’t be limited to the nuclear facilities. They are going to attack all IRGC infrastructure, plus police stations and government facilities housing documents and files.

Look at the casual way in which Washington and Israel bicker of who should be installed to run this country of 90 million people (last pic).

This is the reason these people hate us. And who can blame them?

 

[NOLA Dude]

Continued

 

[reinaert]

Sy Hersh lost his credibility, his good and reliable sources, and probably his wits a long time ago.

Maybe he guesses right, this time. But faith in Hersh is simply unjustified.

 

[NOLA Dude]

Sy Hersh lost his credibility, his good and reliable sources, and probably his wits a long time ago.

Maybe he guesses right, this time. But faith in Hersh is simply unjustified.

Only in the eyes of the people who don't like what he reports. He's the top investigative journalist of our time and nobody has broken more bigger stories than him.