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Israel Urges U.S. to Join War with Iran to Eliminate Nuclear Program

The risk of Bush 2.0 is growing as we speak.

The thing is that Trump will be lured into thinking an aerial campaign can work, while in reality what it would take is a ground invasion.
There's no way US military can sustain a physical occupation of Iran. It would certainly mean the end of a Trump administration through a total derailment of its agenda.
I don't believe Trump thinks that far ahead on anything that isn't a direct con, scam, or grift benefiting himself. Trump wants to look like a big tough guy, that's why he's flexing here. And he's so big and tough, he'll get us caught up in major military conflict. At least with Ukraine, all we were really doing was sending money or support. But Trump seems interested in getting America inserted directly, through military actions, against Iran.

But as always, Trump never understands the bigger picture.
 
In the Israeli raid on Hezbollah HQ in Lebanon to kill their leader Nasrallah, the Israelis dropped a series of over 50 bunker busters, in the space of 30 seconds.

So you can drop bunker-busters serially to achieve deeper penetration, rather than relying on having to do it with a bigger bomb.
To go deeper, just dial up the numbers.
You make sense. If it is completely and totally critical that the U.S. avoids offensive action against Iran AND if it is possible for Israeli bunker busters to penetrate deep into the Fordow nuclear complex, then that tactic should be employed.
 
Tucker Carlson interviews Ted Cruz on Iran, and totally schools him

 
Well Trumpers he promised to solve Ukraine in one day and not get us into wars and he’s it hing to bomb Iran. Now what?
 
I don't believe Trump thinks that far ahead on anything that isn't a direct con, scam, or grift benefiting himself. Trump wants to look like a big tough guy, that's why he's flexing here. And he's so big and tough, he'll get us caught up in major military conflict. At least with Ukraine, all we were really doing was sending money or support. But Trump seems interested in getting America inserted directly, through military actions, against Iran.

But as always, Trump never understands the bigger picture.
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@ 9:32 - "Trust in Trump"... so does this somehow raise the possibility that Trump is only pretending to be readying for full war, in order to intimidate the Iranians into making major concessions they might not otherwise make? Is that possible here, or is it highly unlikely?
 
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You make sense. If it is completely and totally critical that the U.S. avoids offensive action against Iran AND if it is possible for Israeli bunker busters to penetrate deep into the Fordow nuclear complex, then that tactic should be employed.

Here - you might like this - it's got an expert talking about the limitations of bunker busters for the current situation:
(and he's one of the top experts)

 
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@ 9:32 - "Trust in Trump"... so does this somehow raise the possibility that Trump is only pretending to be readying for full war, in order to intimidate the Iranians into making major concessions they might not otherwise make? Is that possible here, or is it highly unlikely?

I don't know how likely it is. Trump is a "Speak Loudly and Swing Your Stick Around" sort of guy. He does it with tariffs all the time, slapping huge tariffs on countries only to have to roll them back when people stand up to him. That's why he's the TACO President. But swinging that stick is part of his persona. He's caught up in appearing tough.

Now it's one thing to do it with tariffs (not a good thing), but it's another to do it with US military intervention. That's a stick that once swung, is hard to chicken out on. So one problem with that "I'm a big tough guy, I'm Patrick Swayze in Road House, my way or the highway" strategy comes when someone calls that bluff. Cause if you ain't Patrick Swayze, lots of bad shit can happen.

He's already shown he's no Patrick Swayze with his TACO tariff disaster. So if he's trying to bluff and say we're going to bog ourselves down in a other State-Building war in the Middle East, what happens if Tehran calls him on it? With tariffs, he works out a "deal" which is usually just what we were doing before and declares victory. But if Tehran says "bring it" after Trump has threatened to bring it so hard...then what? You can't back out of military intervention as easily as walking back tariffs.

Does Big Man Trump make good on the threats and get us stuck in another war in the Middle East? Or does he tuck tail and run?

Of course there's always reality, and here Israel and Iran have a history of these skirmishes, and both sides talk huge and kill some folk, and in the end back down. This ain't the first time. And I think most folk are hoping for that pattern, that Israel and Iran will allow cooler heads to prevail and reach a ceasefire for awhile. Usually the US President isn't sitting around trying to inflame the situation, but it's still the hope.

In that case, then Trump will 100% claim that was his plan all along, his MAGA commies will pretend it was the plan all along. For one of the things Trump excels at is taking credit, even if he had no hand in it.
 
I just said in another thread that I hope my country doesn't make the same mistakes they did in 2003 when they became involved in the US invasion of Iraq.
 
Clear and Convincing EVIDENCE that Colonel MacGregor is Correct

The CIA/MOSSAD HAVE EFFECTUATED A COUP






MacGregor is a xenophobic, far-right, Russophile crackpot with zero credibility among actual intelligence experts.
 
Involving the US militarily any more than it is already, would be as pointlessly futile and costly as the 20 year Afghanistan fiasco, which achieved nothing. The West couldn't defeat peasants with AK47s then, and Iran would a different matter altogether; especially so if invasion was contemplated.

Defeating peasants with AK’s wasn’t ever America’s goal in Afghanistan.
 
I don't believe Trump thinks that far ahead on anything that isn't a direct con, scam, or grift benefiting himself. Trump wants to look like a big tough guy, that's why he's flexing here. And he's so big and tough, he'll get us caught up in major military conflict. At least with Ukraine, all we were really doing was sending money or support. But Trump seems interested in getting America inserted directly, through military actions, against Iran.
But as always, Trump never understands the bigger picture.
Because he’s a moron.
 
Dear Cucker, STFU. Nobody cares what you think.

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Wonderful debating skills on display here at DebatePolitics.com
This is why people come to this site - to see the amazing quality of political debate here.
They certainly don't come here to see your Scott Ritter contributions.
 
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They certainly don't come here to see your Scott Ritter contributions.
Certainly many people watch Scott Ritter -- that's why he's continually invited to give his excellent analysis and commentary

 
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This is why people come to this site - to see the amazing quality of political debate here.
There’s no debating the fact that Carlson is an anti-American piece of shit, Putin UI/buttboy.
Certainly many people watch Scott Ritter -- that's why he's continually invited to give his excellent analysis and commentary


If Ritter had a shred of credibility, he wouldn’t be doing YouTube “interviews” with nobody former Russia Today propaganda shill, Rachel Blevins.
 
Isn't free speech a wonderful thing?
In this country you can post the most ridiculous, senseless, defamatory, message about the leader of our country, and never worry about being taken away for questioning as a subversive who is a danger to our society.
No wonder millions of poor souls from oppressive nations fight to get here to lead happier lives.
 
Here - you might like this - it's got an expert talking about the limitations of bunker busters for the current situation:
(and he's one of the top experts)

There is never a guarantee that such a weapon can go down 300 feet through solid rock. Maybe two or three of those 30,000 bombs can do the job.
 
There’s no debating the fact that Carlson is an anti-American piece of shit, Putin UI/buttboy.
Such high quality debating skills and arguments on display here at DebatePolitics.com!
Come here to see the kind of quality reasoning you won't be able to find anywhere else!

If Ritter had a shred of credibility, he wouldn’t be doing YouTube “interviews” with nobody former Russia Today propaganda shill, Rachel Blevins.
And just who is your idea of an interviewer who isn't a "nobody" and whose interview show matters?
 
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