Israel is the new Nazi Germany

[oneworld2]

You can read about the history of Ukrainian Nazism here: https://mid.ru/en/foreign_policy/historical_materials/1920326/

I'm familiar with neo Nazis in Ukraine but it's YOUR claim, so lets see you back it.

Who has Ukraine invaded recently that wasn't a result of the war with Russia?

Where is their genocide?

Where are the ghettos?

Same with Palestine, who has it invaded that it didn't have a legal right to invade?.

 

[oneworld2]

A homeland for Jews.

In Palestine and then in all of Jordan , a swathe of Saudi Arabia, Syria, Lebanon , Egypt, Iraq context matters even if you hate the fact

 

[oneworld2]

Comparing Israel to Nazi Germany is not only stupid but absolutely insulting to those Jews who died in Nazi death camps.

I think it ticks many similar boxes to Nazi Germany and that is just as bad and insulting to the people who perished so horribly in those camps ( the 5.5 million others appeared to have been expunged from peoples radars )

Is using the victims of a genocide to act as a fig leaf for a later genocide by their own clan such a moral position?

 

[oneworld2]

The Holocaust didn't start the day that Nazism did. It took years to get up and running.

And it was done under the cover of war in a much more restricted climate vis a vis actual ability to know.

This one is live streamed to the world and hence the wish to achieve the same ends at a slower rate

That's a euphemistic way of admitting that there's a genocide going on in Gaza.

There is and the ICJ will call it a genocide when it finally gets around to the verdict

 

[oneworld2]

Israel won in 1973. They controlled the whole Sinai. And then gave it back to Egypt. They controlled Gaza and gave it back to the Palestinians.

Only because they nearly lost in the beginning of the 1973 war did they "give it back ". And it's not theirs to " give back", it's just the end of another illegal Israeli attack, occupation and settlement programme

Gaza remained under Israeli belligerent occupation after the " disengagement" precisely because they retained so much control.

It's always striking how ignorant most of the people who support Israel actually are when it comes to knowledge of the situation

 

[oneworld2]

There seems to be no room to discuss anything with someone on the left without them labeling you a Nazi. Mark Cuban said this recently about Bluesky--“Engagement went from great convos on many topics, to agree with me or you are a nazi fascist,” Cuban wrote. “ Thats been going on here at DP for a couple years now.

You're as guilty as anyone of throwing out labels in order to hot foot it out of a debate you are losing but I suspect introspection isn't a strong suit of yours.

 

[Fledermaus]

In Palestine and then in all of Jordan , a swathe of Saudi Arabia, Syria, Lebanon , Egypt, Iraq context matters even if you hate the fact

Israel

 

[oneworld2]

Jews exist, deal with it.

Don't be hiding behind the Jew card, it's pathetic.

Israelis don't represent all Jews anymore than Pakistan doesn't represent all Muslims

And many Jews are anti Zionists themselves.

Jew washing your own state horror shows is antisemitic

 

[oneworld2]

I assume you will heading off to fight the IDF shortly.

Weak

 

[oneworld2]

So hiring Hamas and Hezbollah doesn't count?

Both are national liberation movements that Iran supports, so yeah, your framing is ( as ever ) skewed

 

[oneworld2]

Israel

^^^ Weaker

 

[oneworld2]

They are retired to as the Arab revolts.

You cannot even get a less than 10 word post right

 

[BogJeSrbin]

I'm familiar with neo Nazis in Ukraine but it's YOUR claim, so lets see you back it.

Who has Ukraine invaded recently that wasn't a result of the war with Russia?

Where is their genocide?

Where are the ghettos?

Same with Palestine, who has it invaded that it didn't have a legal right to invade?.

Ukrainians collaborated with the Nazis during WW2 and the Palestinians did, too. Hitler did not initially want to kill Jewish people but the Palestinians manipulated him into doing that.

Don't be hiding behind the Jew card, it's pathetic.

Israelis don't represent all Jews anymore than Pakistan doesn't represent all Muslims

And many Jews are anti Zionists themselves.

Then why do you fail to recognize the fact that Jewish globalists (Soros, Zelensky) are trying to destroy Israel, Serbia, and Russia? The cabal that controls the world is globalist, Jewish, anti-Zionist, pro-Analbanian, pro-Palestinian, and pro-Ukrainian.

 

[Fledermaus]

Only because they nearly lost in the beginning of the 1973 war did they "give it back ". And it's not theirs to " give back", it's just the end of another illegal Israeli attack, occupation and settlement programme

Gaza remained under Israeli belligerent occupation after the " disengagement" precisely because they retained so much control.

It's always striking how ignorant most of the people who support Israel actually are when it comes to knowledge of the situation

If Hamas etc al quit the terrorist attacks on Israel would the Blockade:

1. Increase in severity?
2. Decrease in severity?

 

[jaypatriot]

Non-stop regional aggression, territorial expansion, genocide, fascism, international impunity and aspirations for right-wing ethnic supremacy in the region. History doesn't repeat, but it often rhymes.

I love it. Tiny Israel, the size of New Jersey, considered the biggest, genocidal bully in the Middle East.
Israel, surrounded by 100 million Arabs and threatened by 90 million Jew-hating Persians, is accused of aspiring to supremacy in the region?
Why don't people, even those with half a brain, understand that Israel wants to be left alone to succeed as an independent nation and as the only democracy in the entire Middle East?

 

[Fledermaus]

^^^ Weaker

Factual

 

[oneworld2]

Ukrainians collaborated with the Nazis during WW2 and the Palestinians did, too. Hitler did not initially want to kill Jewish people but the Palestinians manipulated him into doing that.

Some collaborated and some fought them, which kind of rubbishes your claim which is solely based on a half truth.

The second part is just pure Netanyahu spouted and debunked propaganda

Then why do you fail to recognize the fact that Jewish globalists (Soros, Zelensky) are trying to destroy Israel, Serbia, and Russia? The cabal that controls the world is globalist, Jewish, anti-Zionist, pro-Analbanian, pro-Palestinian, and pro-Ukrainian.

Has your tin foil hat dug into your temples yet?

 

[oneworld2]

Factual

^^^ Weakest

 

[Fledermaus]

^^^ Weakest

Facts tend to trigger you.

Why?

 

[oneworld2]

I love it. Tiny Israel, the size of New Jersey, considered the biggest, genocidal bully in the Middle East.

It is the regional superpower backed by the global hegemon, believe it baby!!

Israel, surrounded by 100 million Arabs and threatened by 90 million Jew-hating Persians, is accused of aspiring to supremacy in the region?

Not aspiring, actually achieving. Hence why it illegally occupies and/or settles Palestine, Syria, Lebanon

Why don't people, even those with half a brain, understand that Israel wants to be left alone to succeed as an independent nation and as the only democracy in the entire Middle East?

Thinking people know thats not true, Israel wants to expand and thy know it. It's been a mission creep since the start and only fools or ignorant people don't know that.

 

[oneworld2]

If Hamas etc al quit the terrorist attacks on Israel would the Blockade:

1. Increase in severity?
2. Decrease in severity?

Once again you prefer to start in the middle and not at the start, it's like a Pavlovian response you have no control over.

The correct framing starts at the beginning, so...................

Would Israel suffer terror attack reprisals if it stopped its state terrorism against Palestinians in the first place?

 

[oneworld2]

Facts tend to trigger you.

Why?

Projection, they trigger you.

The Zionist maps ,subsequent Israeli land grabs and illegal settling put me in the driving seat here wrt the facts

 

[Fledermaus]

Projection, they trigger you.

The Zionist maps ,subsequent Israeli land grabs and illegal settling put me in the driving seat here wrt the facts

Let's see.... Other than the West Bank (which I too find to be wrong) how many nations* has Israel taken land from in the last half century?

* The West Bank isn't a nation.

 

[Fledermaus]

Once again you prefer to start in the middle and not at the start, it's like a Pavlovian response you have no control over.

The correct framing starts at the beginning, so...................

Would Israel suffer terror attack reprisals if it stopped its state terrorism against Palestinians in the first place?

The question was:

If Hamas et al quit the terrorist attacks on Israel would the Blockade:

1. Increase in severity?
2. Decrease in severity?

 

[Apocalypse]

Don't be hiding behind the Jew card, it's pathetic.

Israelis don't represent all Jews anymore than Pakistan doesn't represent all Muslims

And many Jews are anti Zionists themselves.

Jew washing your own state horror shows is antisemitic

Standing up to known antisemites who made it clear on numerous occasions they are indeed antisemites isn't "hiding" behind anything. You should know that, being a leading promoter of antisemitism yourself who thinks that 0.2% of the world control the media and are trying to silence you.