Israel is the new Nazi Germany

[Gardener]

No, it isn't.


Those who say it is sure are the new Nazis, however.

 

[Gardener]

When was this and where's your link to this history please?

They are retired to as the Arab revolts.

 

[digsbe]

The Arab nations went to war against Israel just days after its creation. The "Palestinians" are ethnically Arabs, a proxy people propped up by the Islamic countries around Israel to try and drive Jews out of their homeland in the Middle East. Every time Israel offers an olive branch the Arab states reject that and play the victim. Israel withdrew from Gaza and they immediately elected Hamas, a terrorist organization that uses the people in Gaza as human shields for their religiously fueled crusade against Jews. Israel gets attacked, like they did on October 7, and when they retaliate they are accused of "genocide" by people who are completely ignorant of history and the true nature of the conflict. Iran funds Hamas and other terrorist organizations and as a theocracy has repeatedly said they believe they have a mandate by their god to destroy the US and Israel in order to usher in their version of an Islamic apocalypse. Israel acts in self defense, and propaganda by the nations around them paint Israel as the aggressor when historically that is just not factual. Israel is not a nazi Germany, if anything the "from the river to the sea" chanters are the Nazis for wanting to eradicate and ethnically cleanse Jewish people from their ancestral homeland in the Middle East. Don't buy into militant Islamic propaganda.

 

[Gardener]

The Arab nations went to war against Israel just days after its creation. The "Palestinians" are ethnically Arabs, a proxy people propped up by the Islamic countries around Israel to try and drive Jews out of their homeland in the Middle East. Every time Israel offers an olive branch the Arab states reject that and play the victim. Israel withdrew from Gaza and they immediately elected Hamas, a terrorist organization that uses the people in Gaza as human shields for their religiously fueled crusade against Jews. Israel gets attacked, like they did on October 7, and when they retaliate they are accused of "genocide" by people who are completely ignorant of history and the true nature of the conflict. Iran funds Hamas and other terrorist organizations and as a theocracy has repeatedly said they believe they have a mandate by their god to destroy the US and Israel in order to usher in their version of an Islamic apocalypse. Israel acts in self defense, and propaganda by the nations around them paint Israel as the aggressor when historically that is just not factual. Israel is not a nazi Germany, if anything the "from the river to the sea" chanters are the Nazis for wanting to eradicate and ethnically cleanse Jewish people from their ancestral homeland in the Middle East. Don't buy into militant Islamic propaganda.

Yep

Hamas promises to kill Jews "until they hide behind rocks and trees".

I just don't know if all their supporters in the West love them despite this or because of it.

 

[instagramsci]

"Palestinians" are ethnically Arabs, a proxy people

A proxy people?

What the **** does that mean?

 

[digsbe]

A proxy people?

What the **** does that mean?

It means they are a people used to attack Jews by proxy. The Arab nations + Iran use the struggle of the "Palestinians" who are ethnically Arabs themselves as a token people with a "struggle" against "zionism" which they then use to justify their violence and hatred of Israel. At its core, the conflict is Arab Muslims lost some land to Jews when after the Holocaust and WWII Brittain partitioned land to be a Jewish state in their native homeland after the atrocities commited against them by the nazis. The only link Israel has to nazi Germany is the fact that its existence is necessary given the evils perpetuated against the Jewish people by the nazis who, like their current adversaries, want to wipe Jews off the map in their actual genocide.

 

[BogJeSrbin]

Yep

Hamas promises to kill Jews "until they hide behind rocks and trees".

I just don't know if all their supporters in the West love them despite this or because of it.

Westoids who support Hamas do it because they like fake countries (such as Palestine).

 

[instagramsci]

At its core,

Just so we're clear

The conflict nothing to do with the violent displacement of hundreds of thousands of people, not to mention the dispossession of their land that continues to this day (re: terrorist settlers in the West Bank)

 

[BogJeSrbin]

Just so we're clear

The conflict nothing to do with the violent displacement of hundreds of thousands of people, not to mention the dispossession of their land that continues to this day (re: terrorist settlers in the West Bank)

This conflict is whether you support legitimate governments such as Israel or fake countries such as Palestine. Kosovo is similar. The fake country is Kosovo and the real government is Serbia.

 

[Gardener]

Just so we're clear

The conflict nothing to do with the violent displacement of hundreds of thousands of people, not to mention the dispossession of their land that continues to this day (re: terrorist settlers in the West Bank)

Hundreds of thousands of Jews were displaced from Arab and Persian lands.

 

[digsbe]

Just so we're clear

The conflict nothing to do with the violent displacement of hundreds of thousands of people, not to mention the dispossession of their land that continues to this day (re: terrorist settlers in the West Bank)

It's not "their" land when they are the ones who rejected the borders and the two-state solution. Regardless though, for national security reasons and due to Arab aggression, Israel has a right to occupy the entirety of "Palestine" given any peace deal and two-state solution is rejected by the Arabs occupying Jewish ancestral homelands. They forfeited their claims when they rejected all peace deals and the two-state solution.

 

[instagramsci]

It's not "their" land when they are the ones who rejected the borders and the two-state solution.

My landlord will be ecstatic to hear that I since I reject his rental increase I am now allowed to bomb his house

What is this backwards logic

given any peace deal and two-state solution is rejected by the Arabs occupying Jewish ancestral homelands. They forfeited their claims when they rejected all peace deals and the two-state solution.

You were a fan of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan too, huh

 

[Gardener]

My landlord will be ecstatic to hear that I since I reject his rental increase I am now allowed to bomb his house

What is this backwards logic

You were a fan of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan too, huh

The truth of the matter is that Jews bought most of the land from Ottoman landowners and most of the Arabs living in the area were nomadic, and did not own the land. The majority of the Arabs who DID own land were recompensed by Jews after they abandoned it during the Arab-initiated hostilities.

Why do you radical leftists rely solely on antisemitic hate sites for you attitudes on the subject?

 

[BogJeSrbin]

It's not "their" land when they are the ones who rejected the borders and the two-state solution. Regardless though, for national security reasons and due to Arab aggression, Israel has a right to occupy the entirety of "Palestine" given any peace deal and two-state solution is rejected by the Arabs occupying Jewish ancestral homelands. They forfeited their claims when they rejected all peace deals and the two-state solution.

There was never a legitimate Palestinian state. The British promised the Jews all of Palestine. Palestine is as fake a country as Kosovo.

 

[Gardener]

There was never a legitimate Palestinian state. The British promised the Jews all of Palestine. Palestine is as fake a country as Kosovo.

Jordan is the Arab state, receiving 78 percent of the land.

There was no such thing as "Palestinians" as we call them today, as they had not been invented for political reasons, yet.

 

[BogJeSrbin]

Jordan is the Arab state, receiving 78 percent of the land.

There was no such thing as "Palestinians" as we call them today, as they had not been invented for political reasons, yet.

Jordan is a fake country then. The Balfour declaration gives all of Palestine to the Jews and so Jordan is rightful Israeli territory.

 

[Surrealistik]

It's not "their" land when they are the ones who rejected the borders and the two-state solution. Regardless though, for national security reasons and due to Arab aggression, Israel has a right to occupy the entirety of "Palestine" given any peace deal and two-state solution is rejected by the Arabs occupying Jewish ancestral homelands. They forfeited their claims when they rejected all peace deals and the two-state solution.

The notion of ancestral claims as a basis for legitimization of Israel, besides causing mass upheaval and chaos globally if they were to be honoured universally and thus being obviously ridiculous, doesn't even apply to it given that the Canaanites preceded them, and the Palestinians and Lebanese are far closer to the Canaanites by genetics and heredity than your average Israeli (~80-90/90%+ shared genes and ancestry respectively vs ~30-80% for Israelis depending on their ethnic background).

Meanwhile, the Jewish state was specifically and objectively founded on mass terrorism, intimidation and violence leveled against the Arab population after they rightfully rejected the staggeringly dirty pool 1947 partition plan. Said partition plan denied them and the British, then presiding over the Mandate, a seat at the table delineating land boundaries, was extensively adulterated by threats, bribery and coercion leveled against countries and national delegates, and moreover ridiculously awarded nearly 2/3rds of the land to the Jews who then constituted less than 1/3rd of the population and owned about 7% of the land. Even disincluding the Negev Desert, which still has value, the land awarded to the Jews by the partition plan was disproportionate.

Moreover, it's hard to fault Palestinians for not passively accepting subsequent table scraps when their land was essentially stolen from them as above.

 

[Gardener]

The notion of ancestral claims as a basis for legitimization of Israel, besides causing mass upheaval and chaos globally if they were to be honoured universally and thus being obviously ridiculous, doesn't even apply to it given that the Canaanites preceded them, and the Palestinians and Lebanese are far closer to the Canaanites by genetics and heredity than your average Israeli (~80-90/90%+ shared genes and ancestry respectively vs ~30-80% for Israelis depending on their ethnic background).

Meanwhile, the Jewish state was specifically and objectively founded on mass terrorism, intimidation and violence leveled against the Arab population after they rightfully rejected the staggeringly dirty pool 1947 partition plan. Said partition plan denied them and the British, then presiding over the Mandate, a seat at the table delineating land boundaries, was extensively adulterated by threats, bribery and coercion leveled against countries and national delegates, and moreover ridiculously awarded nearly 2/3rds of the land to the Jews who then constituted less than 1/3rd of the population and owned about 7% of the land. Even disincluding the Negev Desert, which still has value, the land awarded to the Jews by the partition plan was disproportionate.

Moreover, it's hard to fault Palestinians for not passively accepting subsequent table scraps when their land was essentially stolen from them as above.

Or you can tell the truth, instead. The partition plan gave 78% to the Arabs. We call it Jordan, today.

The Jews only received a portion of the remaining 22%, which you decry dure to your animosity against the Jewish ethnicity.

 

[aociswundumho]

The notion of ancestral claims as a basis for legitimization of Israel, besides causing mass upheaval and chaos globally if they were to be honoured universally and thus being obviously ridiculous, doesn't even apply to it given that the Canaanites preceded them, and the Palestinians and Lebanese are far closer to the Canaanites by genetics and heredity than your average Israeli (~80-90/90%+ shared genes and ancestry respectively vs ~30-80% for Israelis depending on their ethnic background).

Meanwhile, the Jewish state was specifically and objectively founded on mass terrorism, intimidation and violence leveled against the Arab population after they rightfully rejected the staggeringly dirty pool 1947 partition plan. Said partition plan denied them and the British, then presiding over the Mandate, a seat at the table delineating land boundaries, was extensively adulterated by threats, bribery and coercion leveled against countries and national delegates, and moreover ridiculously awarded nearly 2/3rds of the land to the Jews who then constituted less than 1/3rd of the population and owned about 7% of the land. Even disincluding the Negev Desert, which still has value, the land awarded to the Jews by the partition plan was disproportionate.

Moreover, it's hard to fault Palestinians for not passively accepting subsequent table scraps when their land was essentially stolen from them as above.

Translation: all Jewish actions are malicious and all Arab actions are justified.

 

[stevecanuck]

"They think we're Arab. When did Persian become Arab?"

~ Shereen from Crash

Yes, that should be corrected.

Israel is surrounded by Muslim countries that want to wipe it out. Thanks for pointing that out. Accuracy is important.

 

[iguanaman]

Have you spent the last 77 years speaking out against the continuous attempts by Arab nations to wipe Israel and the Jewish people from the face of the earth? Did you cry out for Arab nations to stop the aggression against Israel? Or do you only care now that Israel has managed to win conflict after conflict and fight off every attempt by Arab nations and their terrorists proxies to destroy Israel?

You never tire of the neocons do you? We are about to begin our 4th attempt to remake the M.E. and it is ironic that Trump is now the vehicle for it. What makes you think it will work out any better than the other 3?

Israel urges U.S. to join war with Iran to eliminate nuclear program​

Israel has asked the Trump administration over the past 48 hours to join the war with Iran in order to eliminate its nuclear program, according to two Israeli officials.

The big picture: Israel lacks the bunker buster bombs and large bomber aircraft needed to destroy Iran's Fordow uranium enrichment site, which is built into a mountain and deep underground. The U.S. has both within flying distance of Iran

• But the Trump administration has so far distanced itself from Israel's operation, and argued that it would be illegitimate for Iran to retaliate by striking U.S. targets.
• Directly attacking Iran, even if the U.S. involvement is limited to bombing a single site, would pull the U.S. directly into the war.
• However, if Fordow remains operational after the operation ends, Israel will have failed in its goal to "eliminate" Iran's nuclear program.

https://www.axios.com/2025/06/14/israel-iran-war-us-nuclear-program-trump

 

[BogJeSrbin]

Yes, that should be corrected.

Israel is surrounded by Muslim countries that want to wipe it out. Thanks for pointing that out. Accuracy is important.

And just like with Serbia most of these “countries” are occupying rightful Israeli land. All of Palestine, Lebanon, and Jordan are rightful Israeli land and all of ex-Yugoslavia and Albania are rightful Serbian land.

The real enemy is the globalists who run the world and many of these are Jewish. George Soros runs an organization that is trying to destroy Israel. Bernie Sanders leads a movement that is trying to destroy Israel. Zelensky is a UN shill and the UN (which employs many Jews in high ranking positions) is trying to destroy Israel and Serbia. We must have a real conversation about these globalists who are trying to destroy countries reclaiming what is rightfully theirs (Russia, Serbia, Israel, China).

 

[Surrealistik]

Or you can tell the truth, instead. The partition plan gave 78% to the Arabs. We call it Jordan, today.

The Jews only received a portion of the remaining 22%, which you decry dure to your animosity against the Jewish ethnicity.

No it didn't:

United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Jordan is wholly separate from the British Mandate and the 47 Partition Plan.

Translation: all Jewish actions are malicious and all Arab actions are justified.

The evidently complete and unsurprising failure of your reading comprehension aside, it's more to correctly highlight the fact that Zionists have no legitimate claim to the land, save perhaps the 7% or so they were in legal ownership of at the time, and Israel was fundamentally and objectively founded on theft by way of mass terrorism and butchery.

 

[BogJeSrbin]

No it didn't:

United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Jordan is wholly separate from the British Mandate.

The evidently complete and unsurprising failure of your reading comprehension aside, it's more to correctly highlight the fact that Zionists have no legitimate claim to the land, save perhaps the 7% or so they were in legal ownership of at the time, and Israel was fundamentally and objectively founded on mass terrorism and butchery.

This still does not change the fact that Jordan and Palestine are fake countries (as fake as Kosovo).

 

[Phys251]

This still does not change the fact that Jordan and Palestine are fake countries (as fake as Kosovo).

Jordan is a fake country? Is that what they teach in Serbian schools?