Israel Fears ICC to Issue Arrest Warrants for Netanyahu, Other Top Officials

[RaleBulgarian]

He could be arrested when traveling to a foreign country that's a signatory to the ICC convention.

You think that’s a possibility?

C’mon.

 

[Lord Tammerlain]

You think that’s a possibility?

C’mon.

In Europe yes,

The US no. Canada probably

 

[sanman]

You think that’s a possibility?

C’mon.

Your fave whipping boy Putin didn't travel to South Africa, remember?

 

[Pyrite]

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Are there warrants for HAMAS leadership also? Just wondering.

Not known. The information for the article came from Israeli officials, and they didn't disclose what they know about the investigation into Hamas' part of the 2014 conflict.

Keep in mind that the news report doesn't say arrest warrants are forthcoming.

...The court launched an investigation three years ago into possible war crimes committed by both Israel and Palestinian militants going back to the Israel-Hamas war in 2014. It has given no public indication that arrest warrants are imminent, and it was not clear whether Israel was also expecting arrest warrants for any Hamas leaders....

 

[RaleBulgarian]

In Europe yes,

The US no. Canada probably

What European country/ies do you think would turn Netanyahu over to the ICC?

 

[RaleBulgarian]

Your fave whipping boy Putin didn't travel to South Africa, remember?

When was Netanyahu scheduled to visit South Africa?

 

[sanman]

When was Netanyahu scheduled to visit South Africa?

It's not the only ICC signatory - obviously.

Israel used to have closer ties with South Africa before - when a similar ideology was in power over there.
After they achieved freedom, Israel didn't really feel the same about the relationship anymore.

 

[PoS]

Withholding economic sanction to whom?? Your answer is rappa kalja.

ICC operates as an international court striving to uphold accountability for serious crimes affecting the international community. By acting independently of national interests, ICC seeks to uphold principles of justice and human rights on a global scale. ICC has jurisdiction over individuals who commit war crimes, crimes against humanity, genocide, and aggression. This includes both state actors and individuals. Member countries has commited to arrest persons and follow the courts ruling should they enter their territory. This also applies to stopovers and at embassies or consulates.

You clearly misunderstood my point and then went off on a tangent. How very Finnish of you.

So far as I know, the US is not a member of the ICC.

So....Biden wouldn't be compelled to arrest Bibi.

Of course, because they set it up that way.

Clearly, you’re the ignorant one.



And no American president, regardless of party, would deliberately do anything to jeopardize the relationship between the United States and Israel.

Thats because both parties are bought and paid for. If you have an independent in there, it would be another story.

Biden and Netanyahu have never been close.

they are very close now.

 

[Mungo Jerry]

He could be arrested when traveling to a foreign country that's a signatory to the ICC convention.

What country do you believe would be sold bold to do so, and why would he go there?

 

[RaleBulgarian]

It's not the only ICC signatory - obviously.

Israel used to have closer ties with South Africa before - when a similar ideology was in power over there.
After they achieved freedom, Israel didn't really feel the same about the relationship anymore.

You haven’t answered my question;

When was Netanyahu scheduled to visit South Africa?

 

[Mungo Jerry]

If he arrived in a country that is part of the ICC, which most of Europe is, he would be arrested.

You really think Germany or France or the UK or (x) would arrest the Israeli head of government?

 

[RaleBulgarian]

they are very close now.

Nonsense.

 

[zincwarrior]

Hamas leadership should be under the same arrest order

Except they already are in Europe, Turkey, Qatar, and Iran. They hypocrisy is...routine.

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

Would take a lot more than balls. Israel isn’t a member and does not recognize the court’s authority.

Imagine what would happen if any government somehow captured and turned Netanyahu over to the court.

Oh that's an easy one.

• The government that did that would be accused of being antisemitic by
  • the Israeli government and
  • the American PR arm of the Israeli government, the JDC.
• The US Repuiblican Party would do
  • whatever Donald John Trump [pbuh] told it to do.
• The US Democratic Party would
  • stand firmly on both sides of the fence on the matter.
• The US government would take great stacks of American taxpayer's money and
  • give it to the Israeli government on the condition that
    • the Israeli government spend it on purchasing American military goods from companies operating in electoral districts
      • represented by people who say that they belong to the same political party that is claiming to be in control of the US government's legislative and executive branches.

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

Clearly, you’re the ignorant one.

Biden and Netanyahu have never been close.

And no American president, regardless of party, would deliberately do anything to jeopardize the relationship between the United States and Israel.

If you make that

"do anything to jeopardize the relationship between -the United States- >their party< and -Israel- >Jewish voters<."
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you have a deal.

 

[L88]

Israeli officials are now concerned an international arrest warrant will soon be issued by the International Criminal Court for the arrest of Netanyhau:

Israel fears ICC will issue arrest warrants for Netanyahu and other top officials

The country is working through diplomatic channels to try to stop the warrants from being issued by the International Criminal Court, an Israeli official told NBC News.

www.nbcnews.com

Yet the fat boys that head hamas, who take a cut in the arms funding, live free and easy luxury condos in Qatar.

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

In Europe yes,

The US no. Canada probably

Since Canada is a signatory to the ICC treaty, the Canadian authorities would be obliged to arrest him if he entered Canadian territory. The Canadian authorities would NOT be obliged to keep him in custody pending the hearing of the ICC's request that the Canadian government extradite him for trial. The police in Canada are NOT required to place an "arrested" person into custody pending a judicial determination on their release. So the entire "arrest" could consist of "Mr Netanyahu, you are under arrest. I am now releasing you and a notice will be sent to you telling you when you are scheduled to appear in court. Have a nice day.".

Just as the conduct of the US government in NOT arresting Mr. Netanyahu is an example of that government obeying the laws of its own country INSIDE its own country, so too would the conduct of the Canadian government in arresting Mr. Netanyahu be an example of that government obeying the laws of its own country INSIDE its own country.

[ASIDE]

I once had a client whom the police officers foolishly allowed to speak to me OUTSIDE of the court house while they went inside to give evidence about how they had arrested him so that the Prosecution could request an order that he be kept in custody pending trial. The Prosecution started its piotch when the Judge asked where the accused was, I had my client stand up in the spectators' seats. The Prosecution started to continue its pitch for my client to be to KEPT IN custody pending trial. At that point I objected on the grounds that my client was NOT IN custody and what the Prosecution really had to do was to apply for a warrant for the arrest of my client. Since my client had ALREADY demonstrated that they were more likely than not to attend the actual trial of the case, I told the Judge that I couldn't see any reason why someone who had voluntarily appeared to answer to the charges against him should be locked up on the basis that they weren't likely to show up for their trial. To that, the Judge replied by saying (essentially) "Quite Right." and the Prosecution (seeing which way the wind was blowing, abandoned their request for an order keeping my client in custody until the trial.​

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

What country do you believe would be sold bold to do so, and why would he go there?

Indeed, why would Mr. Netanyahu want to be travelling to any ICC signatory country that had a government that was committed to following the laws of their own country after being told not to do so by the government of "Israel&America"?

 

[zincwarrior]

Indeed, why would Mr. Netanyahu want to be travelling to any ICC signatory country that had a government that was committed to following the laws of their own country after being told not to do so by the government of "Israel&America"?

I would contemplate that, arresting the head of state of a nuclear power that you are not currently at war with would generally be considered a bad move.

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

You really think Germany or France or the UK or (x) would arrest the Israeli head of government?

You appear to think that "being arrested" and "being l;ocked up without bail and being forced to wear an ugly orange jumpsuit until your trial is held several years in the future" mean the same thing.

 

[zincwarrior]

Since Canada is a signatory to the ICC treaty, the Canadian authorities would be obliged to arrest him if he entered Canadian territory.

You don't seriously believe that do you?

 

[zincwarrior]

You appear to think that "being arrested" and "being l;ocked up without bail and being forced to wear an ugly orange jumpsuit until your trial is held several years in the future" mean the same thing.

What part of "his security detail draws Uzis and says no" do you not understand?

 

[Lord Tammerlain]

What part of "his security detail draws Uzis and says no" do you not understand?

More than likely he won't travel to any country that is a member of the ICC to avoid the potential shooting of said countries law enforce officers creating an international incident

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

I would contemplate that, arresting the head of state of a nuclear power that you are not currently at war with would generally be considered a bad move.

Indeed. If the Canadians arrested Mr Netanyahu the very first thing that the Israeli government would do would be to launch a nuclear war against Canada.

You really are silly when you suggest such a thing. The Israeli government would NEVER use its SUPPOSED so-called "nuclear weapons" against any other country unless that other country was actually actively invading Israel and was on the verge of slaughtering every Israeli. (Well, that's what the Israeli government will tell you "for the record" (at the same time as it refused to confirm that it does actually have any of those so-called "nuclear weapons".)

 

[Lord Tammerlain]

You really think Germany or France or the UK or (x) would arrest the Israeli head of government?

Sure, if they want the ICC to remain as an organization and not collapse entirely