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It seems to me that the left's argument is that there is no such thing as an illegal immigrant. Immigrants either come here through the proper channels or they cross the border without going through the proper channels. BUT, even though some come here by not going through the proper channels, once they are on our soil they have the legal right to claim asylum. So, we have only two situations (according to the left).
1. Immigrants come here through the proper channels and therefore are legal immigrants
2. Immigrants cross the border illegally but the second they do they can claim asylum and therefore in that second they automatically become legal immigrants
It seems to me that the left's argument is that there is no such thing as an illegal immigrant. Immigrants either come here through the proper channels or they cross the border without going through the proper channels. BUT, even though some come here by not going through the proper channels, once they are on our soil they have the legal right to claim asylum. So, we have only two situations (according to the left).
1. Immigrants come here through the proper channels and therefore are legal immigrants
2. Immigrants cross the border illegally but the second they do they can claim asylum and therefore in that second they automatically become legal immigrants
Number 2 is incorrect. When they cross the border illegally, the are illegal immigrants. When they then ask for asylum, they are illegal immigrants who are asking for asylum.
Yes, there is such a thing as illegal immigrants.
I hope you can sleep better tonight.
When people first started complaining about the term I remember it being from a grammatical perspective. They would say a person can’t be illegal. This was the reason given by media outlets to start using “undocumented immigrant”. I think that is nit picking. I have heard of unlawful drivers and lawful owners so I don’t see the issue with illegal immigrant.
It seems to me that the left's argument is that there is no such thing as an illegal immigrant. Immigrants either come here through the proper channels or they cross the border without going through the proper channels. BUT, even though some come here by not going through the proper channels, once they are on our soil they have the legal right to claim asylum. So, we have only two situations (according to the left).
1. Immigrants come here through the proper channels and therefore are legal immigrants
2. Immigrants cross the border illegally but the second they do they can claim asylum and therefore in that second they automatically become legal immigrants
When it is all said and done it depends on whose business said immigrant is employed. At local levels especially, immigrant status is often determined politically. If a business owner is successful, an active Republican donor, member and supporter of the Chamber of Commerce and has many of the right punches on his social/economic ticket the likelihood of the owner's hired help being vetted by authorities is relatively low.
It seems to me that the left's argument is that there is no such thing as an illegal immigrant. Immigrants either come here through the proper channels or they cross the border without going through the proper channels. BUT, even though some come here by not going through the proper channels, once they are on our soil they have the legal right to claim asylum. So, we have only two situations (according to the left).
1. Immigrants come here through the proper channels and therefore are legal immigrants
2. Immigrants cross the border illegally but the second they do they can claim asylum and therefore in that second they automatically become legal immigrants
Number 2 is incorrect. When they cross the border illegally, the are illegal immigrants. When they then ask for asylum, they are illegal immigrants who are asking for asylum.
What a bunch of partisan nonsense. The left forms sanctuary cities, a sanctuary state, gives illegals driver's licenses, mostly free healthcare, allows them to be counted in the census, and lets illegals vote in local elections and some how the left claims it is the right who give the incentives to illegals to come here.
Correction: If they cross the border seeking asylum, they are not an immigrant, they are a refugee.
Re: the OP: Yes, there is such a thing as an illegal immigrant.
There are people who are unlawfully present (mainly visa over-stays), a civil offense.
There are those who committed illegal entry. (Misdemeanor, I believe)
There are those who committed illegal re-entry, ie, after already having been deported >1 (Felony, I believe).
And there are those who cross the border to present themselves at a port of entry for asylum are asylum-seekers.
If you're super-duper hung up on words and you want to call the first three "illegal immigrants", have at it. But please don't be one of those people who melts when another person chooses to call them "undocumented immigrants", or "undocumented alien" or "illegal alien" or "illegal", or whatever. The fourth, however, are doing exactly what the law tells them to do (that is, when Trump is not illegally turning them away despite their having followed the law, or illegally separating & detaining them)
Federal law allows them to seek asylum as of right after being in the states for up to 1 year. After 1 year, they can still seek it through there are more conditions. Please stop lying about everything in your quest to be a good Trumpist.
There are people who are unlawfully present (mainly visa over-stays), a civil offense.
There are those who committed illegal entry. (Misdemeanor, I believe)
There are those who committed illegal re-entry, ie, after already having been deported >1 (Felony, I believe).
And there are those who cross the border to present themselves at a port of entry for asylum are asylum-seekers.
If you're super-duper hung up on words and you want to call the first three "illegal immigrants", have at it. But please don't be one of those people who melts when another person chooses to call them "undocumented immigrants", or "undocumented alien" or "illegal alien" or "illegal", or whatever. The fourth, however, are doing exactly what the law tells them to do (that is, when Trump is not illegally turning them away despite their having followed the law, or illegally separating & detaining them)
Federal law allows them to seek asylum as of right after being in the states for up to 1 year. After 1 year, they can still seek it through there are more conditions. Please stop lying about everything in your quest to be a good Trumpist.
Where is the part of immigrant employees of a well connected local business owner being just as likely to be vetted by the authorities as immigrant employees working for a non-connected, non-political business owner? The very law God y'all worship, Sheriff Joe Arpaio, is walking proof.
Wrong. They are not a refugee until the US determines they are a refugee.
Wrong.
ref·u·gee
/ˌrefyo͝oˈjē/
noun
noun: refugee; plural noun: refugees
a person who has been forced to leave their country in order to escape war, persecution, or natural disaster.
But your sense of American entitlement to change definitions is adorable.
Does the federal law say they can illegally cross the border, stay in the country for a year...avoiding detection...and then request asylum...and not be considered an illegal alien?
When they enter the country in that manner, they are an illegal alien. If they then ask for asylum, they are an illegal alien who is asking for asylum.
When people first started complaining about the term I remember it being from a grammatical perspective. They would say a person can’t be illegal. This was the reason given by media outlets to start using “undocumented immigrant”. I think that is nit picking. I have heard of unlawful drivers and lawful owners so I don’t see the issue with illegal immigrant.
The US is the one who determines if a person meets that definition...according to US laws.
I don't know...maybe Canada will take some person's word for it, but here in the US, we check it out and decided for ourselves.
Repeating your stupid bull**** doesn't make it right. They can cross "illegally" and request asylum as of right up to one year in.
:shrug:
Talk to me about it after the left quits with sanctuary cities, a sanctuary state, gives illegals driver's licenses, mostly free healthcare, allows them to be counted in the census, and lets illegals vote in local elections.
So, guilty until proven innocent? :lamo I'll remember that.
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