Is the Republican Party in danger of dying out?

[grip]

This is an interesting article though a little exaggerated, IMO.

If the 50% millennial, unaffiliated to any party figure is correct, I think both Parties -Dems and Rep's- are in danger.

A new Pew Research survey finds a demographic trend in the United States that threatens to push the Republican Party into permanent minority status unless it changes quickly.

The survey found that millennials — the generation of adults between the ages of 18 and 33 — vote heavily Democratic and have "liberal views on many political and social issues, ranging from a belief in an activist government to support for same-sex marriage and marijuana legalization."

But Republicans do have an opening: Millennials may be more liberal, but they don't have much loyalty to the Democratic Party.

In fact, 50 percent of all millennials now describe themselves as political independents — the highest level of political disaffiliation recorded for any generation in the last quarter-century. They don’t like either of the two major political parties.

Is the Republican Party in danger of dying out?

 

[mak2]

The RW is by definition conservative, the only constant is change. The LW changes constantly, which do you think will end up with most of the younger voters? I think the Republican party is in deep trouble.

This is interesting article though a little exaggerated, IMO.

If the 50% millennial, unaffiliated to any party figure is correct, I think both Parties -Dems and Rep's- are in danger.

 

[tecoyah]

The RW is by definition conservative, the only constant is change. The LW changes constantly, which do you think will end up with most of the younger voters? I think the Republican party is in deep trouble.

The youth vote, along with the large population of Older folks (40-60) they are alienating....combined with pushing out many moderate Republican voters (such as myself) does not bode well for the future.

 

[grip]

The RW is by definition conservative, the only constant is change. The LW changes constantly, which do you think will end up with most of the younger voters? I think the Republican party is in deep trouble.

Even the liberals (Dems) are not always that flexible with their positions on issues. Both sides are guilty of espousing dogma and rhetoric about certain policies, with no room for debate. It's this kind of "non thinking", emotional irrationality that's turning off people without idealistic affiliations.

 

[WCH]

The RW is by definition conservative, the only constant is change. The LW changes constantly, which do you think will end up with most of the younger voters? I think the Republican party is in deep trouble.

The RW 'establishment' is in deep trouble. Those old farts are on their way out.

 

[Goshin]

The Republican party will probably have to engage in major reform over the next 5-15 years, probably moving more centrist, or possibly more libertarian.

 

[grip]

The Republican party will probably have to engage in major reform over the next 5-15 years, probably moving more centrist, or possibly more libertarian.

Even the Republicans, own party leaders, are saying that their potential candidates, need to lighten up on policies that make them appear as enemies to average (middle-poor class) people.

 

[Linc]

A GOP that is deeply embedded in the House with district remaps from 1990 and 2010 isn't going anywhere.
With the GOP certainly favored to keep their filibuster-proof Senate on legislation, that won't change either.
The GOP still owns the majority of Statehouses, and even more so down the ticket.

The party in trouble is the Democratic one, which doesn't like to vote in mid-terms .

 

[Jetboogieman]

The Republican party will probably have to engage in major reform over the next 5-15 years, probably moving more centrist, or possibly more libertarian.

Completely agree.

I think generally the whole of society is shifting to be more socially liberal and I think will in the coming years trend to be more economically conservative as the true picture emerges and I think there's a sweet spot there that Republicans can shift into if they're clever about it.

In the end it's all about votes and if Republicans stick to their current mantra they will lose as their former electorate dies out and yes it is that crude.

 

[Slartibartfast]

If you think about it.

Many of the traditions that the republican party (at least the most mainstream element) espouses are things that a large amount of the current young generation has no connection to. At least that is something I wonder about.

 

[SBu]

This is an interesting article though a little exaggerated, IMO.

If the 50% millennial, unaffiliated to any party figure is correct, I think both Parties -Dems and Rep's- are in danger.

I'm a millennial according to that definition. If that is true, then I can tell you that most millennials I know are socially libertarian, financially conservative, mixed bag on government size/scope, and tired of the politics of either side.

 

[grip]

I'm a millennial according to that definition. If that is true, then I can tell you that most millennials I know are socially libertarian, financially conservative, mixed bag on government size/scope, and tired of the politics of either side.

Such a large swath of the voting demographic is becoming disenfranchised from the political system, because it seems to serve a smaller and smaller portion of the country.

 

[Goshin]

If you think about it.

Many of the traditions that the republican party (at least the most mainstream element) espouses are things that a large amount of the current young generation has no connection to. At least that is something I wonder about.

Respect for tradition is no longer much of a thing among the young, yes. Also, regardless of their religious beliefs fewer and fewer feel that it is right to impose those beliefs by force of law, among the young. Also, lots of the young folks have come to adulthood in a bad economy with few jobs and poor prospects and their economic views are colored by that.

On the flip side, most people tend to get more conservative as they get older, and today's 18-33yo's are tomorrow's 33-48yo's.

 

[Beaudreaux]

Even the Republicans, own party leaders, are saying that their potential candidates, need to lighten up on policies that make them appear as enemies to average (middle-poor class) people.

I've personally told my Congressman that very fact. He's part of the GOP leadership, and as you say, they get it.

The problem is that just like in the Democrat party, the loudest voices in the Republican party right now are the bat guano crazies.

Ever seen a guy on the street that obviously has mental problems ranting incoherently about crazy crap? That's what the nutblade extremists on the right are doing right now. It's damned embarrassing.

How's the GOP supposed to have any legitimacy pointing out the leftist nutblades like Pelosi and Reid and give a reasonable alternative to the idiocracy when we have our own idiots hogging the cameras and microphones?

God help the country...

 

[Jetboogieman]

Many of the traditions that the republican party (at least the most mainstream element) espouses are things that a large amount of the current young generation has no connection to. At least that is something I wonder about.

I think if one were to make a massively generalization this might be it.

Republicans tend to ignore societal realities.

Democrats tend to ignore economic realities.

Now alot of the time Republicans espouse ideas that would hurt the economic situation but I think it's good they keep the debt issue in the public sphere. But socially many of their more fervent social conservatives have forced them into some bad policy positions that will hurt them in the long run.

 

[Goshin]

A GOP that is deeply embedded in the House with district remaps from 1990 and 2010 isn't going anywhere.
With the GOP certainly favored to keep their filibuster-proof Senate on legislation, that won't change either.
The GOP still owns the majority of Statehouses, and even more so down the ticket.

The party in trouble is the Democratic one, which doesn't like to vote in mid-terms .

Oh they're probably not in danger of dying out, no. The 2 party system is too entrenched. The R's may be marginalized for a time until they reform around more popular positions.

 

[Slartibartfast]

Respect for tradition is no longer much of a thing among the young, yes. Also, regardless of their religious beliefs fewer and fewer feel that it is right to impose those beliefs by force of law, among the young. Also, lots of the young folks have come to adulthood in a bad economy with few jobs and poor prospects and their economic views are colored by that.

On the flip side, most people tend to get more conservative as they get older, and today's 18-33yo's are tomorrow's 33-48yo's.

I agree. Its why I think the conservative party will go more small l libertarian. Which, I am not sure will be a net positive (from my perspective), but will be an interesting shift. If so I would probably vote for them in smaller venues, such as town or county government where I tend to vote for libertarians already.

 

[mak2]

Would that make the party even further to the right?

The RW 'establishment' is in deep trouble. Those old farts are on their way out.

 

[Goshin]

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Republicans tend to ignore societal realities.

Democrats tend to ignore economic realities.

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Wow. Spot on and well put.

 

[clownboy]

There's been smaller and larger ebb and flow in both parties all my life. Just a decade or so ago folks were talking about if the democrat party was going to make it going forward. It's a generational thing and the young of a certain age don't get it where it comes to tradition. Then they grow up and become traditionists.

The republican party will survive, as will the democrats.

 

[Beaudreaux]

I think if one were to make a massively generalization this might be it.

Republicans tend to ignore societal realities.

Democrats tend to ignore economic realities.

Now alot of the time Republicans espouse ideas that would hurt the economic situation but I think it's good they keep the debt issue in the public sphere. But socially many of their more fervent social conservatives have forced them into some bad policy positions that will hurt them in the long run.

I hate to have to disagree. Your not making a generalization... You hit it succinctly and dead on.

 

[opendebate]

This is an interesting article though a little exaggerated, IMO.

If the 50% millennial, unaffiliated to any party figure is correct, I think both Parties -Dems and Rep's- are in danger.

It will be forced to evolve or die. It will, most likely, evolve eventually.

 

[grip]

I've personally told my Congressman that very fact. He's part of the GOP leadership, and as you say, they get it.

The problem is that just like in the Democrat party, the loudest voices in the Republican party right now are the bat guano crazies.

Ever seen a guy on the street that obviously has mental problems ranting incoherently about crazy crap? That's what the nutblade extremists on the right are doing right now. It's damned embarrassing.

How's the GOP supposed to have any legitimacy pointing out the leftist nutblades like Pelosi and Reid and give a reasonable alternative to the idiocracy when we have our own idiots hogging the cameras and microphones?

God help the country...

That's part of the problem that extremist idealists are the loudest, while cooler, rational heads try to prevail. Eventually some of these party leaders and POTUS candidates will realize that the voters are tired of the hyperfocusing on crazy, knee jerk issues that divide everyone.

 

[Jetboogieman]

I hate to have to disagree. Your not making a generalization... You hit it succinctly and dead on.

Wow. Spot on and well put.

 

[grip]

It will be forced to evolve or die. It will, most likely, evolve eventually.

I've never seen a thread, start off, with so many in agreement. The politicians, really, should read this if they're looking on how to evolve.