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People who have problems discussing race rarely admit that they have problems discussing race.No problem discussing race. Do have a problem with manifest dishonesty.
People who have problems discussing race rarely admit that they have problems discussing race.
Wow and I thought that my post was so on point. I guess the reason I respond this way ( can't speak for others) is that the questioner is clearly viewing the world through a prism of race versus race. Plus it just seems like such as weak response to the many, left and right who feel this president is a disappointment.
Maybe we should call it the Chris Matthews excuse. Someone who equates any negative discussion of the President to people who do not want a black president to succeed.
Perhaps it is stupidity not racism, pick your poison.
Well, Paula Deen plans southern plantation-style weddings where the servers are niggers with white shirts and bow ties like they were before the Civil War.
A few years ago I would have vehemently disagreed with what this poster said, but I am considerably less convinced now that the GOP isn't motivated by an unconscious prejudice.
It just seems so odd how many unprecedented actions the GOP has taken. They have shut down political appointments on a huge scale in both the judicial and executive branches and every old school politician who is retiring, whether Democrat or Republican, is lamenting at the extraordinary amount of animosity that exists at the Capital. It is hard to say what the GOP represents anymore, or even WHO they represent. Are they are just about doing everything they can to shut down Obama, even during those times when what he is aiming for is something that everyone wants?
So many middle class folk seem to feel abandoned by the GOP and I don't hear anything from the GOP that would disprove that they aren't the Grand Old Millionaires and Billionaires Party that they are portrayed by the media to be. Even Republican posters on this forum seem to jump at the chance to declare anyone who disagrees with the GOP's economic policies to be "moochers, parasites, envious, jealous, etc."
Is it racism? Is it classism? What is the source of this great animosity?
Paula Deen was an Obama supporter.
Ahhhhh no. Nice try though.
Hey Y'all Racist Fox News Republican Paula Deen Fired By The Food Network
Not credible site. :doh
So you admit that bringing up Al Gore in a discussion of Bush's racist Willy Horton ad was a red herring?
There was nothing the least bit racist about the Willie Horton ad..
You gave none. You lose.
Your site was a joke. Goofle Paula Deen Democrat. You won't like what you find(of course you will just ignore it anyways.
The term "GOP" is to generic. There really are a lot of sub-groups within the overall category.
I have friends who claim to be "Conservative" or "republican" but they really just have fiscal responsibility issues and they aren't anti-gay or anti-legit welfare. So, they aren't claasist or rich.
I do think it's stupid to continue the Obama bashing. After all, he is already elected so wasting time with repeated anti-abortion bills instead of productive actions is pathetic. But it's a minority that does this and then they all get painted with the same brush. Regrettably, this vocal minority repeatedly over-shadows the topics on which the GOP could be contributing.
The animosity game has become the new normal. But America keeps functioning in spite of, not because of our loony politicians.
The house leadership (I.e boehner cantor etc) seem to be incapable of controling its own caucus.
Yes, the GOP is racist and classist. And when I say, "the GOP", I do not mean every single official or constituent of the GOP is racist or classist. I mean that there is a pervasive enough pattern of racism and classism among Republicans to warrant generalized language in discussing the problem.
That said, my belief that GOP fits those labels is not necessarily rooted in how their refusal to compromise with Obama. It's rooted more in how they tend to speak about blacks and poor people. If you notice - even here on DP - Republicans tend to describe blacks as "brainwashed", more interested in collecting welfare checks than working, lacking "personal responsibility", having a culture that is inferior to "white culture", irresponsible and everything else negative. The primary way in which Republicans speak about black Americans seems to be in a negative way. Moreover, they say things that invoke stereotypes of black people far too often for them to be "coincidence" while also dismissing black concerns of racism as "the race card" or "race baiting".
It's the same for poor people. They imply that poor people are just not working hard enough, that they lack personal responsibility and so on while dismissing their concerns as "class warfare" and calling them "leeches" or "jealous".
In sum, the way that Republicans tend to speak about blacks and the poor indicate to me that racism and classism are pervasive within their ranks.
*Racism and classism exist in the Democratic Party as well, but this thread is about Republicans, so nobody reply to my post with the "they do it too" deflection. I'm not interested.
Hey, kids, the reverso-meme!
I guess the OP touched a nerve.
I do. A stable middle class is historically essential for the long term welfare of a modern society. Why should I not care?
That is more of a valid response. I'm sure it cannot be simplified to one single reason. But let's assume that prejudice does play some role. Is it wrong to consider to what degree it plays a role? I think trying to be colorblind would be just as bad as to be so narrowminded as to see it only in terms of race. Race does play some factor, no matter how small, and pretending it plays absolutely none is just as disingenuous as arguing it is entirely the problem.
Paula Deen was an Obama supporter
Ahhhhh no. Nice try though.
Fewer Democrats than Republicans turned out for the last primary.
I do not believe this is true. Actually, I'm pretty certain it is false.
Yes, the GOP is racist and classist. And when I say, "the GOP", I do not mean every single official or constituent of the GOP is racist or classist. I mean that there is a pervasive enough pattern of racism and classism among Republicans to warrant generalized language in discussing the problem.
That said, my belief that GOP fits those labels is not necessarily rooted in how their refusal to compromise with Obama. It's rooted more in how they tend to speak about blacks and poor people. If you notice - even here on DP - Republicans tend to describe blacks as "brainwashed", more interested in collecting welfare checks than working, lacking "personal responsibility", having a culture that is inferior to "white culture", irresponsible and everything else negative. The primary way in which Republicans speak about black Americans seems to be in a negative way. Moreover, they say things that invoke stereotypes of black people far too often for them to be "coincidence" while also dismissing black concerns of racism as "the race card" or "race baiting".
It's the same for poor people. They imply that poor people are just not working hard enough, that they lack personal responsibility and so on while dismissing their concerns as "class warfare" and calling them "leeches" or "jealous".
In sum, the way that Republicans tend to speak about blacks and the poor indicate to me that racism and classism are pervasive within their ranks.
*Racism and classism exist in the Democratic Party as well, but this thread is about Republicans, so nobody reply to my post with the "they do it too" deflection. I'm not interested.
You're allowed to think whatever you want.Are we not allowed to think that a majority of the poor are poor because of their bad decisions without being called racist/classist?
Congratulations, but my comment wasn't about you. I've heard someone say that exact sentence.I've never heard someone say that "black" culture is some how inferior to "white" culture.
That's not what I said so that's not what I'm saying.But if you are saying that thinking that people should be personally responsible and productive members of society is racism, then it sounds like to me that you are already buying the assumption that one race/culture is superior to another by default.
Since I did not make that assumption as discussed above, this comment is erroneous. LOL!If one buys such an assumption, then perhaps I understand how they think that the only way to fix this natural disparity is to make excuses for the irresponsible and hand checks to the unproductive.
That's not what I said so that's not what I'm saying.
Since I did not make that assumption as discussed above, this comment is erroneous. LOL!
Republicans tend to describe blacks as "brainwashed", more interested in collecting welfare checks than working, lacking "personal responsibility", having a culture that is inferior to "white culture", irresponsible and everything else negative.
It's the same for poor people. They imply that poor people are just not working hard enough, that they lack personal responsibility and so on while dismissing their concerns as "class warfare" and calling them "leeches" or "jealous".
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