Is suggesting policy to address tragedy directly after tragedies happen inappropriate?

[j brown's body]

There's plenty of time and opportunity to attack the other side for what happened to these children. If you're doing it before they are laid to rest I'll call that what it is -- some ****ing insensitive bullshit!

Did you check with the parents on this? Because if I were in their shoes, I'd be pretty pissed off and thankful that some leader is reflecting my own frustration and anger.

 

[j brown's body]

Suggesting stupid, ineffective, agenda driven policy that has nothing to do with the tragedy is always wrong.

Translation: its fine if I agree with it.

 

[Winston]

Suggesting stupid, ineffective, agenda driven policy that has nothing to do with the tragedy is always wrong.

right? Who would have thought guns had anything to do with shootings

 

[Overitall]

Did you check with the parents on this?

No, I did not. Did you?

Because if I were in their shoes, I'd be pretty pissed off and thankful that some leader is reflecting my own frustration and anger.

 

[mrjurrs]

Yes. Knee-jerk reaction to serious situation is usually a bad idea ("inappropriate")

There is a natural human instinct to react hastily to a threat or danger. In the jungle, this is essential to survival.

However in Law, we must take a deep breath and use critical thinking to determine the best course of action on important matters.

Or to just put it off and do nothing...

 

[ALiberalModerate]

There's plenty of time and opportunity to attack the other side for what happened to these children. If you're doing it before they are laid to rest I'll call that what it is -- some ****ing insensitive bullshit!

What do you think would happen if 19 children were murdered in a city where the police had been defunded?

 

[Overitall]

What do you think would happen if 19 children were murdered in a city where the police had been defunded?

The left would still be blaming the right for it.

 

[mrjurrs]

Fortifying schools is a must.

When the country isn't willing to fund the needed educational aspects of schools, this program is not only ridiculous...it wouldn't work. There are approximately 60 outside entrances to the school I'm most familiar with.

 

[mrjurrs]

Then have that conversation. Is there a specific bill under consideration that would have stopped this incident? If there is then let’s start with that and build from it.

F*ck that. Let's just do something, anything. That would indicate our federal govt sees this as a problem.

 

[NolanVoyd]

Yes. Knee-jerk reaction to serious situation is usually a bad idea ("inappropriate")

There is a natural human instinct to react hastily to a threat or danger. In the jungle, this is essential to survival.

However in Law, we must take a deep breath and use critical thinking to determine the best course of action on important matters.

But time and time again the people that say don't act hastily block any action at all.

How many years ago was Columbine? Sandy Hook? San Bernadineo? El paso?

Seems you all never want to act.

 

[ALiberalModerate]

The left would still be blaming the right for it.

You know as well as I know that if 19 children were murdered because a police department had been defunded to the point that it could not respond, the right would be blaming Democrats for it and they would be right to do so.

Similarly, when we have mass shooting after mass shooting and Republicans have been unwilling to do anything regarding background checks, magazine sizes, red flag laws and so on. When in fact, they have weakened gun laws at every opportunity, it is right to call them out on it.

The real question is, when our their voters going to pressure them to come to the table with some solutions?

 

[NolanVoyd]

Fortifying schools is a must.

European schools aren't fortified and this rarely happens there.

 

[TurtleDude]

I also voted no. When exactly is a good time? We have been talking about this since Sandy Hook in 2012

The GOP has put the NRA above the lives of our children

the anti gun left wants to bash the NRA by pretending that crazed killers somehow are the fault of the NRA rather than society. It is because the NRA supports candidates who don't generally support the socialist collectivist bullshit that almost every anti gun poster buys into

 

[Arlette]

Suggesting stupid, ineffective, agenda driven policy that has nothing to do with the tragedy is always wrong.

Texas is still waiting on an improved grid that can make it through a winter or a summer

 

[TurtleDude]

On the more moderate side:

Fortifying schools with bulletproof windows and metal detectors.

All the way to gun buybacks

do you think someone intending to commit mass murder will participate in a gun buyback unless it is to get rid of a gun that has bodies on it?

 

[TurtleDude]

Suggesting stupid, ineffective, agenda driven policy that has nothing to do with the tragedy is always wrong.

even worse is waiting for a tragedy so it can be used for a political weapon

 

[Overitall]

You know as well as I know

No only you know/believe the following.

that if 19 children were murdered because a police department had been defunded to the point that it could not respond, the right would be blaming Democrats for it and they would be right to do so.

Response times have very little to do with funding. Even if you only had one LEO in your town it's unreasonable to expect giving him more funding would increase his time. Only Batman has a Batmobile.

Similarly, when we have mass shooting after mass shooting and Republicans have been unwilling to do anything regarding background checks, magazine sizes, red flag laws and so on. When in fact, they have weakened gun laws at every opportunity, it is right to call them out on it.

The real question is, when our their voters going to pressure them to come to the table with some solutions?

When are democrats going to stop insisting on it being their way or the highway?

 

[trouble13]

Well..?

My thoughts are no. Absolutely not.

Should we wait 6-8 weeks after hurricanes to think about weather proofing cities?

No.

We shouldn't worry about weather proofing cities. Our focus should be on banning fossil fuels. Gotta get ahead of the weather.

 

[j brown's body]

No only you know/believe the following.

Response times have very little to do with funding. Even if you only had one LEO in your town it's unreasonable to expect giving him more funding would increase his time. Only Batman has a Batmobile.

When are democrats going to stop insisting on it being their way or the highway?

Right? Since when should democracy and doing what most voters want carry any weight?

 

[j brown's body]

the anti gun left wants to bash the NRA by pretending that crazed killers somehow are the fault of the NRA rather than society. It is because the NRA supports candidates who don't generally support the socialist collectivist bullshit that almost every anti gun poster buys into

Leave Russia's favorite money launderer alone!

 

[noonereal]

I also voted no. When exactly is a good time? We have been talking about this since Sandy Hook in 2012

The GOP has put the NRA above the lives of our children

Its 22 years post Columbine. We are still waiting.

 

[Overitall]

Right? Since when should democracy and doing what most voters want carry any weight?

Complain to your congressman or senators. Be sure to vote. Democracy is great!

 

[SkyChief]

But time and time again the people that say don't act hastily block any action at all.

How many years ago was Columbine? Sandy Hook? San Bernadineo? El paso?

Seems you all never want to act.

"You all"?

Which group of people are you lumping me into?

My point about using critical thinking before deciding on policy changes is a good idea. The OP agreed with me:

. . . I think calmly searching for solutions in times of crisis is actually the most emotionally mature thing to do.

Seems "you all" are impulsive, emotional and oppose rational thought. (see how unfair that is?)

 

[NolanVoyd]

Complain to your congressman or senators. Be sure to vote. Democracy is great!

Democracy would better if we got all the big time dark money out of it.

Overturn citizens united.

 

[VanceMack]

Mass shootings have been a problem for a long time, but the trends in mass shootings changed radically in 2012. If people actually care about effective policy changes they might begin to look at what has changed in society over the course of the last 40 years, but specifically the last 10 years. What HASNT changed is weapons, weapon type, weapon availability.