the boy sees his father as being more wise all along as he gains wisdom from experience himself
now answer my question
what's the point of creating trouble in the 1st place?
God is a psychopath?
He didn't, no more than we create trouble for our children when they rebel, but He does know what is best for mankind, even though Satan, Adam and Eve did not think so...He told them the rules, they broke them, they suffered the consequences, along with all their offspring...
if your all powerful and all kwing and you build how the universe works then yes if there's trouble you made it
so
what's the point of creating trouble in the 1st place?
that would make more sense but people act like its supposed to be benevolent
He didn't, no more than we create trouble for our children when they rebel, but He does know what is best for mankind, even though Satan, Adam and Eve did not think so...He told them the rules, they broke them, they suffered the consequences, along with all their offspring...
:2brickwal
All the lack of evidence points to the conclusion that there are no gods.
trying to talk sense into you is just like that yes
trying to talk sense into you is just like that yes
You are the one who makes no sense, no matter how many times it's explained to you...the same boring questions over and over, without comprehending a word...
You are the one who makes no sense, no matter how many times it's explained to you...the same boring questions over and over, without comprehending a word...
That is not what was said in the OP...Valery made it very clear...
i dont get that from reading the op seems to me what was being asked is if atheist believe there's a point to suffering some purpose it serves
That is not what was said in the OP...Valery made it very clear...
By asking that stupid of a question, he absolutely was trying to insult atheists. All atheists think all suffering is meaningless? Total, unadulterated nonsense. Suffering has a meaning if it's done for something meaningful. If it's not, it isn't. It's not that complicated.
She stated: suffering - without meaning or goal. I don't even know what that means.
Right.
When asked more than once to define terms...he/she bailed like this thread was the Titanic.
Total and EPIC Fail of a thread.
:failpail:
Um, I did ask individuals. You know, if I want to piss off the atheists here, I will. I don't need to go beating around the bush.:lamoBy asking that stupid of a question, he absolutely was trying to insult atheists. All atheists think all suffering is meaningless? Total, unadulterated nonsense. Suffering has a meaning if it's done for something meaningful. If it's not, it isn't. It's not that complicated.
If he actually wanted to know what people think he would ask individuals instead of trying to pretend atheists are a big monolithic group with a single answer he already knows.
Um, I did ask individuals. You know, if I want to piss off the atheists here, I will. I don't need to go beating around the bush.:lamo
You know, if I want to piss off the atheists here, I will.
Since when did questions need to be supported by "data"? :lamoIt's such a pathetic topic born from sheer ignorance that Valery can't even support what he's claimed/asked in post #1 with any kind of facts or data.
He/she refuses to define his terms or context in any fashion.
Proves from the start this thread is utter trash.
I don't mean other people's suffering in the sense that atheists were indifferent to the suffering of others. Rather I mean, is the suffering in itself — their own and that of others — without meaning or goal, from the point of view of atheists (or agnostics)?
Since when did questions need to be supported by "data"? :lamo
I don't mean other people's suffering in the sense that atheists were indifferent to the suffering of others. Rather I mean, is the suffering in itself — their own and that of others — without meaning or goal, from the point of view of atheists (or agnostics)?
Yes, those other threads of mine haven't pissed you off either.... :lamoPlease.
Give it your best shot. Start a new thread with those exact intentions.
I bet you got nothing. Like all your other threads here recently.
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