- Joined
- Dec 13, 2011
- Messages
- 10,348
- Reaction score
- 2,426
- Location
- The anals of history
- Gender
- Male
- Political Leaning
- Progressive
Indentured servitude is immoral because it takes away peoples fundamental rights... It is impossible to sign your fundamental rights away, even if you want to...
you can't legitimately forfeit those rights, because it would always be a crime for others to violate them, no matter what contract you sign.
If you're trying to tell me indentured servitude is illegal, I agree. My point wasn't that it is legal, it was that it ought to be legal.
Nothing wrong with working for room and board.
If you believe in ones inalienable rights... it should never be legal...or rather, impossible to be legal
If you believe in inalienable rights, it should be impossible to go to prison.
Why is that? it protects against the cruel and unusual...but when you are an individual who violates other peoples rights.... you forfeit your own, at least in the society you belong in....or maybe you just forfeit being in the society all together. I'd be cool with exporting violent criminals to a uninhabited island for them to live in a free for all.... as long as said island as no way of them returning or going elsewhere.
Penile labor is the same thing as slavery.
Penile labor? Does not sound fun. Get your junk checked
I'll leave it at that for now. What are your thoughts?
None of what you've outlined equates to justifiable slavery. The welfare queen is the only character among your scenarios who has not committed a crime. Therefore, why should she be "enslaved" simply because someone doesn't like the fact that she was deemed (repeatedly) eligible to receive those welfare benefits? All others you've characterized above should do their penance accordingly as the law dictates. Now, if that penance involves making small rocks out of big ones, pressing license plates, harvesting crops on the corporate farm, repaving roads or digging ditches, then so be it. That's part of forfeiting your right to live among a peaceful, law abiding society. But I wouldn't call this slavery. I'd call it imprisonment. No one owns them; they're just locked away from society for the crimes they've committed until time served (less a life sentence or the death penalty).
Now, as a Black man do I believe slavery should never be allowed? I have to say yes. I'm against the ownership of anyone as property. However, I can see where indentured servitude can work because it's no different than being a contract employee only instead of being "hired" to perform a specific task (or tasks), you perform any task assigned to you for the agreed upon timeframe at the agreed upon price. Think Joseph, for example.
At various points in my life I have definitely been a slave to my penis.Penile labor is the same thing as slavery.
At various points in my life I have definitely been a slave to my penis.
Except among those whose education has been in the minimalist style, it is understood that hasty moral judgments about the past are a form of injustice.
Jacques Barzun
not funny nor necessary .
not funny nor necessary .
Your feedback is simply terrific! You've expressed everything I wanted to say far better than I ever could. Thank you.
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?