Guy Incognito
DP Veteran
- Joined
- May 14, 2010
- Messages
- 11,216
- Reaction score
- 2,846
- Gender
- Male
- Political Leaning
- Libertarian
A law that the supreme court invalidated, thus no law.
The Supreme Court has not invalidated Flag Code. It is still very much on the books. Title 4 United States Code Chapter 1. Feel free to look it up.
It's codified law nevertheless. If you want to be respectful to the flag, then follow it. Otherwise don't try to tell me you're being respectful, because it is a matter of law that when you are violating flag code you are desecrating the flag.
go back in the thread and find the flag murals I posted.
Are they, IYHO, violating flag code, and thus desecrating the flag? They technically meet the Flag Code definition of 'flag'.
Right, and in the flag burning case the Supreme Court said freedom of speech supercedes protections for the flag.
And your take-away from this that Flag Code no longer exists?
Violations of Flag Code are not criminal. Flag Code is essentially voluntary. But it is still law, it can still be violated, and its violation is a desecration to the flag.
And without enforcibility or consequence it really doesn't matter.
Are you the type of person who needs someone constantly standing over you with the threat of punishment to do the right thing?
Some of us will do the right thing even if without the threat of punishment. Shocking, I know, but there you have it.
I'm pretty sure the "right thing" is subjective here.
Incorrect. This is not a matter of opinion. The "right thing" is objective and in fact it has been conveniently written down for us in the form of US Flag Code. Use it.
Fact is, it's rarely used or enforced as law.
I have neither time nor inclination to do that, but feel free to post a link.
If they are outdoors where they can be rained on and otherwise exposed to the elements, then yes.
Point conceded. I did indeed miss that part.
However...
Disrespectful, because it violates flag code?
Disrespectful, because it violates flag code?
Disrespectful, because it violates flag code?
Disrespectful, because it violates flag code?
Do YOU want to tell the American soldiers in this picture they are being disrespectful of thier flag, because this mural violates flag code?
Wrong on both counts. It is mandatory for the military and other government entities to follow flag code and it is frequently referred to by those of us civilians who do not want to disrespect our flag, our country or our troops.
And flag code is not "rarely" enforced. It is never enforced.
Translation: I am too lazy to go and look, and it might prove me wrong if I did.
Incorrect. This is not a matter of opinion. The "right thing" is objective and in fact it has been conveniently written down for us in the form of US Flag Code. Use it.
Sara Palin is not in the military nor part of a government entity - therefore your comment including the military is irrelevant.
And YOU are wrong - (tip for you: Google is your friend).
Court sides with veteran who flew flag upside down - latimes.com
No, some people decided to give importance to an object. They created an arbitrary code which contains suggested behaviors when handling an object they gave significance to.
It has no significance to me,
Flag code is arbitrary only if you consider human social norms to be arbitrary.
I find it sad the the Flag, our country, and our troops have no significance to you. That is what the flag represents. Read flag code. According to our government, the flag is a living thing. It is not an abstraction, it literally is our country and our troops. When you disrespect the flag you disrespect them.
And what's worse is that you're being so glib about it, like you're proud to violate flag code. Shame.
And YOU are wrong - (tip for you: Google is your friend).
Court sides with veteran who flew flag upside down - latimes.com
My country, the people who fight and die for it, and our way of life mean everything to me. Just because somebody else decided that the flag represents all of those things doesn't mean I have to agree with them in order to support my country. That idea is ridiculous and a bit immature.
Translation: I am too lazy to go and look, and it might prove me wrong if I did.
Well, here...
http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/100440-sarah-palins-use-american-flag-breach-federal-law-9.html#post1059534218
now that I've done your thread research FOR you... answer the question.
Did you even read this article?
It wasn't just any old person who wrote flag code, it was the very country that you claim means everything to you. We the people have decided how the flag should be treated, and formalized it in Title 4 USC Chapter 1. It's the law.
But I guess that's not good enough for you, huh?
I'm still not sure how the last one violates flag code. It appears to be perfectly displayed in accordance with the code.
It's a law that elected officials wrote.
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?