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I don't think it is being glamorized. I'd say the extreme opposite is being glamorized. The "pop culture" magazines glamorize being dangerously skinny and half-starving yourself to look "pretty."
However it is a legitimate medical problem, and a completely preventable one at that.
I don't think it is being glamorized. I'd say the extreme opposite is being glamorized. The "pop culture" magazines glamorize being dangerously skinny and half-starving yourself to look "pretty."
However it is a legitimate medical problem, and a completely preventable one at that.
Not sure if it's being glamorized per se, but it's certainly being coddled to an unhealthy degree, at least from my perspective.
I'm seeing an attempt to make obesity more glamorous for the past few years, and I believe it is because so many more people are overweight nowadays, and they want to still feel desirable and sexy, regardless of their willingness to control their weight. I think it's "normal" that is no longer seen as cool. :lol:
I agree. I think it's kind of disturbing to try to make super morbid obesity "glamorous." Let's be honest, that's the category she'd fall into. At this weight, at her age, it's fairly likely she'll die in middle age.
This has definitely been a big thing in one branch of the "body acceptance" movement lately (which I don't think is truly accepting, but whatever). It's understandable, given that most people in this country are now overweight or obese. But instead of fixing it, they seem to want to make it the new beauty standard.
It is one thing to accept oneself, and to divorce oneself from the body being their only source of worth, or to even just be honest with oneself and say, "I understand the risks of being like this, and I'm ok with that."
But to tout it as... glamorous? Yeah, that's disturbing. It's JUST AS DISTURBING as trying to make an anorexic with a BMI of 13 look "glamorous." Deadly diseases are not glamorous. Anorexia isn't. Super morbid obesity isn't. And I'm sorry, I am just not going to pretend otherwise.
Why can't we get to the point where we don't need to glamorize the extremes? It's like tragedy porn. How about people who just look like people?
I'm less clear-cut on the set about men. I went to the link, and you know, a lot of those "normal guys" are actually normal. One is of the "brick ****house" variety -- you know, football big. They will always carry a bigger layer than most, but that's normal for them. And a couple of the other guys do actually have muscle definition and no noticeable paunch.
No, most normal guys don't have every muscle on their ribs defined, or an easily distinguishable whatever-pack, even if they are quite fit. That one I kind of agree with, though I do notice they've excluded the "wiry" body type, which a lot of younger men have until their 30's or so.
I would say on the whole most of the guys I've dated are fairly fit, and I only knew one who looked like any of those models. He was a professional aerialist, which is incredibly physically demanding. Way beyond just "being in shape." Working out even a couple hours every day won't get you a body like that.
So I don't think it's necessarily realistic to paint that as the ideal or the norm. You can be quite fit and not look like that.
Yes it is and there poses in issue in doing so.
What?
I think both extremes are being pushing to an unhealthy degree tbh. I agree that obesity is being glamorized to a degree, but you still have to bear in mind there is another extreme all the way on the other end: anorexia.
Both of which, IMHO, are preventable with a healthy diet and a reasonable amount of exercise. Hell, you probably don't even have to do the exercise. I know a woman who dropped near 100 pounds just by switching to organic foods and getting off her sodas.
I understand what you are saying about men. However my contention is the notion that men who do look like the latter are achieving some sort of impossible goal and that it's not reasonable. I think that message is negative. And when they follow it up by insisting men like David Beckam are not "Real" it becomes all the more absurd. A real man is a real man no matter their size. We should promote athleticism whether or not your body will look like magazine covers is irrelevant, what is relevant is what excersie does for health.
Interestingly, back in the early 1900's up until about the 50's, people were pretty darn thin, and it wasn't from anorexia. It was because they generally didn't have excess of anything, including food. It's only since the post-war period that Americans started living such lives of excess across the board, in huge numbers, and especially after the 60's. I love vintage clothing, and especially stuff from the 20s to 40s, and although I am a small woman, it is not easy or common at all to find dresses that will fit over my hips. The American average body has changed dramatically over the past few decades.
I'm not even sure it's how much you're eating, but what you're eating. If your snacks consist of apples and salads, rather than twinkies and cookies, you won't have as much of a problem. If you get seconds of a grass-fed steak dinner, rather than seconds of pasta or microwave dinners, you won't have as much of a problem. I eat a considerable amount of food myself, but it's good food.
For the most part, it's a numbers game. More intake in calories than expenditure in bmr plus activity, and you'll gain. More expenditure than intake, and you'll lose weight. I could live on twinkies and chips if I kept my calorie intake below a certain level. I would be very unhealthy, but I would be alive.
Not yet mentioned is PPACA and its total acceptance of obesity as a normal health condition. While the First Lady goes on a crusade to fight obesity, our President's signature health care madness refuses to allow insurance premiums to be adjusted upward for obesity - yet they may be for age which is neither preventable nor reversible. The official government message seems to be that it is cool, or at least acceptable, to let your body accumulate excess fat even though it has known and serious negative heath consequences.
I haven't encountered any media which glamorises obesity.I want to start off by saying that I believe that beauty is entirely subjective and that everyone is beautiful depending on their own self-perception and the perception of the individual looking at them. That said It has become apparent that in the crusade to combat insensitive attitudes towards obese people that the reality of what obesity remains to be has been lost.
On facebook a plus sized model posted a photo of herself in a bikini. She is indeed beautiful and this thread is not about whether or not obesity is beautiful it's about the medical consensus regarding obesity. Being obese is health hazard, it increases the likelihood of a great many life shortening illnesses and diseases. So when in the comments of that photo I see people celebrating her for being an icon and symbol for those like her and others it becomes a tad worrying. It sends a very serious message that in effect demeans the medical aspects of obesity.
https://www.facebook.com/TessMunste...4634897583/954955297863509/?type=1&permPage=1
Then in this article, one of many, there is a very strong shift in perception of fitness and health with men. In it, titled "Real Men", the author establishes a new stereotype. Comparing photos of men who are a tad chubby and not fit to athletic counterparts the article insists that the former is an example of real men and "reality" and that the latter are absurd ideals being pushed on men. Insisting that athletic male models are the equivalent of the negative female model stereotype of "anorexic beauty". The true absurdity being that for men, who are anatomically and biologically engineered for easier muscle gain, being athletic is not in any way impossible or unrealistic especially at a young age.
If 'Real Men' Posed In Underwear Ads
The change in perception is all very jarring and worrisome. There is nothing wrong with promoting beauty in all it's forms, but if the cost is to ignore health and fitness so that we can become complacent with average health and fitness practices or worse complacent with being obese then what message is being sent out to the public, especially children?
I haven't encountered any media which glamorises obesity.
The biggest issue I have is that this woman is considered plus size:
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Give me a ****ing break. :roll:
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