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Is Loretta Lynch an incompetent, or just another political crook and liar?

Frank Apisa said:
I could, but I have decided that I do not want to do so.

It will have to suffice that it is my opinion that Loretta Lynch is not incompetent...nor "just another political crook and liar."

You obviously are of the opposite opinion...and I will not ask you about why you came to that opinion. It is sufficient for me that you are of the opinion.
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I flipped a coin, how about you?:lamo
 
TurtleDude said:
you keep making that stupid claim over and over without any proof. How about some proof there rather than acting like a parrot. are you black?
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And there's a pretty big difference between disliking the Obama Administration and affirmative action, and disliking black people in general.
 
TurtleDude said:
you keep making that stupid claim over and over without any proof. How about some proof there rather than acting like a parrot. are you black?
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You claim Lynch isn't qualified solely because of affirmative action. I saw you do it.
 
TheGoverness said:
There's a pretty big difference between disliking the Obama Administration and affirmative action, and disliking black people in general.
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most intelligent people understand that.
 
TheHammer said:
Is Loretta Lynch incompetent or is she just another political crook and liar?


If we are to believe that Lynch inadvertently met up with Bill Clinton on an airport tarmac and only discussed Clinton’s golf game and their grandchildren in the face of the FBI’s & Justice Department’s investigation into Hillary Clinton’s insecure e-mails and the Clinton’s Foundation operations, then shouldn’t we also believe that Loretta Lynch is either an incompetent for exposing herself to the illegal impropriety or a liar?
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I'm fairly certain she had delegated the decision to charge to the FBI and prosecutors before you posted this thread.

No doubt their later decision not to bring charges is not evidence of a lack of crime, but is instead positive evidence of the existence of some grand liberal conspiracy?
 
eohrnberger said:
No, I don't think that Lynch is incompetent. She's in a very tough position here. Apparently the FBI does have the criminal goods on Hillary and the Clinton foundation, Hill and Bill and Obama just want it to 'go away', but Comey apparently isn't going to let it happen. The typical rock and a hard place.
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There is no rock and a hard place. her job is to prosecute federal crimes. the whole point of the DOJ is to keep the government in legal check and to prosecute people
that violate the law. it is also there to help defend the constitution.

She can't really do anything about it but escape with as much of her integrity (such as it remains) in tact. Recusing herself allows her this escape, but also dings her integrity and honestly in a serious manner, as it's all but obvious what she's doing, and why.
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Her integrity has already been compromised. Not only in speech's that she has done earlier but in her actions in this case.
Recusing her just shows she has 0 points in ethics. it shows that she is not fit to be head of the DOJ.

there is a reason that a texas federal judged leveled ethics classes to everyone at the DOJ. what is worse is that the DOJ is actually
fighting it. the judge basically said there are to many unethical behaviors going on at the DOJ and it needs to stop.

Who wants to be the AG that brings down the corrupt and criminal house of Clinton?
Who wants to be the AG that brings down the coronated presidential candidate of the DNC establishment?
Who wants to be the AG that directly changes the outcome of a presidential election?
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Any DOJ that has any ethical behavior about them. if she didn't want to do it then she should have appointed a special
prosecutor from the get go. I honestly think that these people did not believe that it would get this far.

If the AG isn't capable of faithfully enforcing the law, a fundamental tenet of her office and role, isn't assigning and authorizing a special prosecutor the next order of business?
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congress pressed her to. multiple letters were written and sent and phone calls were made for this to occur. she refused to do it.
 
TheGoverness said:
And there's a pretty big difference between disliking the Obama Administration and affirmative action, and disliking black people in general.
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If one criticizes Lynch because of affirmative action, it is racist. Notice that is very different from criticizing affirmative action, which he didn't do. He criticized Lynch and used affirmative action to do so.

It is plainly racist.
 
BitterPill said:
You claim Lynch isn't qualified solely because of affirmative action. I saw you do it.
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among other things but that in no way proves your silly and moronic point. the AG should be among the best and the brightest people in the USA. Lynch doesnt come close
 
TurtleDude said:
among other things but that in no way proves your silly and moronic point. the AG should be among the best and the brightest people in the USA. Lynch doesnt come close
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Because she is black. That's why you don't like her.
 
BitterPill said:
If one criticizes Lynch because of affirmative action, it is racist. Notice that is very different from criticizing affirmative action, which he didn't do. He criticized Lynch and used affirmative action to do so.

It is plainly racist.
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that wins the moronic post of the day. how is it racist to criticize someone being not fit for the job =a job she got due to her race? do you deny that? do you really believe that she was the best and the brightest among the DOJ attorneys? She wasn't on the law review at Harvard. She didn't graduate anywhere near the top of her class, she didn't clerk for a federal judge etc. her appointments have all come from her being a black female who had a Harvard law degree-a degree she got because she was black.
 
BitterPill said:
If one criticizes Lynch because of affirmative action, it is racist. Notice that is very different from criticizing affirmative action, which he didn't do. He criticized Lynch and used affirmative action to do so.

It is plainly racist.
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I really don't understand how that's racist. It doesn't seem like he was trying to be racist at all.
 
BitterPill said:
Because she is black.
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her race has nothing to do with her lack of credentials. its you who is making an idiotic assumption that is what we are saying. we are saying she is was picked for the job because of her race and gender-not the fact that she was the best available attorney for the job.
 
TheGoverness said:
I really don't understand how that's racist. It doesn't seem like he was trying to be racist at all.
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of course you are right but BP has no other argument. There are plenty of Democrat loyalists in the DOJ who had much higher credentials. I worked with a few of them but they were white males or white females etc and thus weren't able to bring to the table what Obama clearly wanted
 
BitterPill said:
You claim Lynch isn't qualified solely because of affirmative action. I saw you do it.
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among other things but that in no way proves your silly and moronic point. the AG should be among the best and the brightest people in the USA. Lynch doesnt come close
 
TheGoverness said:
Could you please put the race card away? It's got nothing to do with TD's dislike of Lynch.
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I don't dislike her personally, I don't recall ever meeting her during my 24 years with DOJ. I dislike the way she was appointed and why she was appointed and the administration she serves
 
TurtleDude said:
of course you are right but BP has no other argument. There are plenty of Democrat loyalists in the DOJ who had much higher credentials. I worked with a few of them but they were white males or white females etc and thus weren't able to bring to the table what Obama clearly wanted
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I just get real tired of the word "racist" being thrown around all the time.
 
TurtleDude said:
her race has nothing to do with her lack of credentials. its you who is making an idiotic assumption that is what we are saying. we are saying she is was picked for the job because of her race and gender-not the fact that she was the best available attorney for the job.
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She served for 5 years as United States attorney for the east district of New York.

If you know of anyone who is more qualified, I would like to hear of it
 
TurtleDude said:
I don't dislike her personally, I don't recall ever meeting her during my 24 years with DOJ. I dislike the way she was appointed and why she was appointed and the administration she serves
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Well that's racist apparently. :shrug:

I don't really dislike her either. Or at least, not to the level I dislike Hillary Clinton. Lynch is a saint compared to her.
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
She served for 5 years as United States attorney for the east district of New York.

If you know of anyone who is more qualified, I would like to hear of it
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how did she get to be the US attorney? there are dozens of US attorneys in the USA-93 IIRC. and there are many career DOJ attorneys in DC. many of them were editors of major law reviews and have much stronger credentials than Lynch
 
TheGoverness said:
I really don't understand how that's racist. It doesn't seem like he was trying to be racist at all.
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He wasn't trying because it comes naturally.

Let's try an experiment. Imagine a fictitious world where white people are the minority and have suffered greatly at the hand of their green overlords. Their green overlords feel bad about it, and so try to help the whites by introducing affirmative action.

Then a white person becomes Mayor of Hooterville, and Turtledove, who is green, claims the white person isn't qualified because of affirmative action.

Is affirmative action the reason Turtledove doesn't think the white Mayor is qualified, or is it the color of the Mayor's skin?
 
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