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Is Jesus Christ Referenced in the Constitution

Is Jesus Christ Referenced in the Constitution

  • YES

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  • NO

    Votes: 12 80.0%

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Robodoon

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Yes, they say "OUR" LORD! and they sign it!


Done in Convention by the Unanimous Consent of the States present the Seventeenth Day of September in the Year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and Eighty seven and of the Independence of the United States of America the Twelfth In witness whereof We have hereunto subscribed our Names,

G°. Washington
Presidt and deputy from Virginia

Delaware
Geo: Read
Gunning Bedford jun
John Dickinson
Richard Bassett
Jaco: Broom

Maryland
James McHenry
Dan of St Thos. Jenifer
Danl. Carroll

Virginia
John Blair
James Madison Jr.

North Carolina
Wm. Blount
Richd. Dobbs Spaight
Hu Williamson
South Carolina
J. Rutledge
Charles Cotesworth Pinckney
Charles Pinckney
Pierce Butler

Georgia
William Few
Abr Baldwin

New Hampshire
John Langdon
Nicholas Gilman

Massachusetts
Nathaniel Gorham
Rufus King

Connecticut
Wm. Saml. Johnson
Roger Sherman
New York
Alexander Hamilton

New Jersey
Wil: Livingston
David Brearley
Wm. Paterson
Jona: Dayton

Pennsylvania
B Franklin
Thomas Mifflin
Robt. Morris
Geo. Clymer
Thos. FitzSimons
Jared Ingersoll
James Wilson
Gouv Morris
 
Robodoon said:
Yes, they say "OUR" LORD! and they sign it!


Done in Convention by the Unanimous Consent of the States present the Seventeenth Day of September in the Year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and Eighty seven and of the Independence of the United States of America the Twelfth In witness whereof We have hereunto subscribed our Names,

G°. Washington
Presidt and deputy from Virginia

Delaware
Geo: Read
Gunning Bedford jun
John Dickinson
Richard Bassett
Jaco: Broom

Maryland
James McHenry
Dan of St Thos. Jenifer
Danl. Carroll

Virginia
John Blair
James Madison Jr.

North Carolina
Wm. Blount
Richd. Dobbs Spaight
Hu Williamson
South Carolina
J. Rutledge
Charles Cotesworth Pinckney
Charles Pinckney
Pierce Butler

Georgia
William Few
Abr Baldwin

New Hampshire
John Langdon
Nicholas Gilman

Massachusetts
Nathaniel Gorham
Rufus King

Connecticut
Wm. Saml. Johnson
Roger Sherman
New York
Alexander Hamilton

New Jersey
Wil: Livingston
David Brearley
Wm. Paterson
Jona: Dayton

Pennsylvania
B Franklin
Thomas Mifflin
Robt. Morris
Geo. Clymer
Thos. FitzSimons
Jared Ingersoll
James Wilson
Gouv Morris

And like the rest of your posts this means what?
 
cherokee said:
And like the rest of your posts this means what?

I don't know what do you think "OUR LORD" means ...hey come on your a marine didn't they teach you these things? Oh thats right the military doesn't work for America anymore, and resistance to the Elites can get you thrown in jail

Now don't you stand up for America like this man, you might get in trouble,,,just "do your job" and don't ask questions or stand for anything of worth....they will tell you what is worthy...and you had better obey or be punished

http://www.mikenew.com/
 
Robodoon, the point of this thread is worthless, of course it says "our lord", but it was only in part of the date(at least the section you provided), and it does not refer to a specific lord.

Also Robodoon, you should note that religion played too much a role to be left out and was used in many documents in that period of time.

Also, what is the point of this thread?????:confused:
 
Comrade Brian said:
Robodoon, the point of this thread is worthless, of course it says "our lord", but it was only in part of the date(at least the section you provided), and it does not refer to a specific lord.

Also Robodoon, you should note that religion played too much a role to be left out and was used in many documents in that period of time.

Also, what is the point of this thread?????:confused:
I believe its called TROLLING.....
 
Lets not forget that 98% of our founding fathers' believed in God, and spoke of God throughout their daily lives--as well as in all of our founding birth documents. "In God we Trust"
 
ptsdkid said:
Lets not forget that 98% of our founding fathers' believed in God, and spoke of God throughout their daily lives--as well as in all of our founding birth documents. "In God we Trust"

"In God We Trust" didn't appear on American currency until long after all the Founding Fathers were dead.
 
Kandahar said:
"In God We Trust" didn't appear on American currency until long after all the Founding Fathers were dead.

***So what is your point?
 
ptsdkid said:
Lets not forget that 98% of our founding fathers' believed in God, and spoke of God throughout their daily lives--as well as in all of our founding birth documents. "In God we Trust"
Not a history major, are you? In God We Trust didn't appear on a coin until 1864...but hey, there are plenty of rabid radical religious Americans who don't like facts to begin with, so your post will be accepted by like minded thinkers.
 
26 X World Champs said:
Not a history major, are you? In God We Trust didn't appear on a coin until 1864...but hey, there are plenty of rabid radical religious Americans who don't like facts to begin with, so your post will be accepted by like minded thinkers.


***Again, what is your point? I wasn't referencing "In God we Trust" to any particular time in American history.
 
ptsdkid said:
***Again, what is your point? I wasn't referencing "In God we Trust" to any particular time in American history.

Obviously you were:

ptsdkid said:
Lets not forget that 98% of our founding fathers' believed in God, and spoke of God throughout their daily lives--as well as in all of our founding birth documents. "In God we Trust"

...the clear implication being that the Founding Fathers came up with "In God we trust" and/or it was present in our founding birth documents. Otherwise, why would you mention it after saying something completely irrelevant?
 
ptsdkid said:
***Again, what is your point? I wasn't referencing "In God we Trust" to any particular time in American history.
Do you know what this thread is about????? Maybe you should read the title again? You used "In God We Trust" as proof that Jesus is in the Constitution, duh!

If this is too complicated a thread there are many others for you to attack people / liberals in...
 
26 X World Champs said:
Do you know what this thread is about????? Maybe you should read the title again? You used "In God We Trust" as proof that Jesus is in the Constitution, duh!

If this is too complicated a thread there are many others for you to attack people / liberals in...


***What are you people...daffy? Someone already posted that 'OUR LORD' was used in the Constitution. I simply used "In God We Trust" as a buffer to my feelings on the importance of God in my life.
 
Robodoon]I don't know what do you think "OUR LORD" means .


The use of the word “Lord” is quite common in dates. “In the year of our Lord” but is that Jesus or A Lord?
Remember the settlers came from England where the word "Lord" is a title. And still is today.


hey come on your a marine didn't they teach you these things? Oh thats right the military doesn't work for America anymore, and resistance to the Elites can get you thrown in jail

What?
Just who are the Elites? Are they part of them, us, theys or those?


Now don't you stand up for America like this man, you might get in trouble,,,just "do your job" and don't ask questions or stand for anything of worth....they will tell you what is worthy...and you had better obey or be punished


Peacekeeping isn’t serving a foreign government.
I have worn that same hat
besides what the hell do you know about serving?..hmmm nothing...
I guess you served by staying in school or some bs like that?
 
ptsdkid said:
Lets not forget that 98% of our founding fathers' believed in God, and spoke of God throughout their daily lives--as well as in all of our founding birth documents. "In God we Trust"

And in spite of that, they were brilliant enough not to mix religion into our national Constitutional law. A person can be religious but still realize it is poison to base laws on what he personally believes regarding a God.

Also, can you point me to a site proving the 98% claim?
 
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tryreading said:
And in spite of that, they were brilliant enough not to mix religion into our national Constitutional law. A person can be religious but still realize it is poison to base laws on what he personally believes regarding a God.

Also, can you point me to a site proving the 98% claim?
Well said Tryreading, well said! Sadly, the rabid religious radicals are unable to have lucid thoughts such as you just expressed, hence their "rabid" moniker.
 
26 X World Champs said:
Well said Tryreading, well said! Sadly, the rabid religious radicals are unable to have lucid thoughts such as you just expressed, hence their "rabid" moniker.

Thanks. I just don't see the logic where some claim that since one of the Founding Fathers said something about the 'Great Governor,' and another spoke of the Bible, and another was Christian, that this countries laws are the laws of their God. They are the laws of nature, and the laws of man. 'We the People...,' not 'From God above...' Anyway, I'll shut up, I'm preaching to the choir here.
 
It was nothing more than the formal way for the date to be written at the time. It is no different than the current usage of "AD" in dates.
 
Robodoon said:
Yes, they say "OUR" LORD! and they sign it!


You know what else it says? January is mentioned several times. What is January?

January -- Janus's month

Middle English Januarie
Latin Januarius "of Janus"
Latin Janu(s) "Janus" + -arius "ary (pertaining to)"
Latin Januarius mensis "month of Janus"

Janus is the Roman god of gates and doorways, depicted with two faces looking in opposite directions. His festival month is January.

Another term in the Constitution is March. All of the signers below believed it was proper to use the word March. What is March?

March -- Mars' month

Middle English March(e)
Anglo-French March(e)
Old English Martius
Latin Martius "of Mars"
Latin Marti(s) "Mars" + -us (adj. suffix)
Latin Martius mensis "month of Mars"

Martius has always had 31 days.

March was the original beginning of the year, and the time for the resumption of war.

Mars is the Roman god of war. He is identified with the Greek god Ares.


Jesus is not referenced in the Constitution. The above Gods, the God of War, and the God of Doorways are. And all of the following Gentlemen freely acknowledged these Gods, so you can start worshipping them now:


...We have hereunto subscribed our Names,

G°. Washington
Presidt and deputy from Virginia

Delaware
Geo: Read
Gunning Bedford jun
John Dickinson
Richard Bassett
Jaco: Broom

Maryland
James McHenry
Dan of St Thos. Jenifer
Danl. Carroll

Virginia
John Blair
James Madison Jr.

North Carolina
Wm. Blount
Richd. Dobbs Spaight
Hu Williamson
South Carolina
J. Rutledge
Charles Cotesworth Pinckney
Charles Pinckney
Pierce Butler

Georgia
William Few
Abr Baldwin

New Hampshire
John Langdon
Nicholas Gilman

Massachusetts
Nathaniel Gorham
Rufus King

Connecticut
Wm. Saml. Johnson
Roger Sherman
New York
Alexander Hamilton

New Jersey
Wil: Livingston
David Brearley
Wm. Paterson
Jona: Dayton

Pennsylvania
B Franklin
Thomas Mifflin
Robt. Morris
Geo. Clymer
Thos. FitzSimons
Jared Ingersoll
James Wilson
Gouv Morris[/QUOTE]



http://www.simpletoremember.com/vitals/PaganDayMonth.htm
 
Comrade Brian said:
Robodoon, the point of this thread is worthless, of course it says "our lord", but it was only in part of the date(at least the section you provided), and it does not refer to a specific lord.

OH BROTHER,!! What do you think the Christians that came here would call to another Lord!?


George Washington
"Let my heart therefore gracious God be so affected with the glory and majesty of it, that I may not do mine own works but wait on Thee, and discharge those weighty duties Thou required of me: and since Thou art a God of pure eyes, and will be sanctified in all who draw nearer to Thee, who dost not regard the sacrifice of fools, nor hear sinners who tread in Thy courts, pardon I beseech Thee, my sins, remove them from Thy presence, as far as the east is from the west, and accept of me for the merits of Thy son Jesus Christ, that when I come into Thy temple and compass Thine altar, my prayer may come before Thee as incense, and as I desire Thou wouldst hear me calling upon Thee in my prayers, so give me peace to hear the calling on me in Thy word, that it may be wisdom, righteousness, reconciliation and peace to the saving of my soul in the day ofthe Lord Jesus.


Also Robodoon, you should note that religion played too much a role to be left out and was used in many documents in that period of time.

sure, because it was a foundation of the people....today we just want to throw our heritage way by design, via the Rich who seek our enslavement and have been humanizing us for 80 years now.

Also, what is the point of this thread?????:confused:

Just pointing out that God and Christ played a part in our claims for Liberty.
 
26 X World Champs said:
I believe its called TROLLING.....

Or it could be called, showing how "CONDITIONED" rockefeller and friends have made the American people. To reject their reasons for the claim of Liberty.


Patrick Henry
"It cannot be emphasized too strongly or too often that this great nation was founded, not by religionists, but by Christians; not on religions, but on the Gospel of Jesus Christ. For this very reason peoples of other faiths have been afforded asylum, prosperity, and freedom of worship here."
 
Kandahar said:
Obviously you were:



...the clear implication being that the Founding Fathers came up with "In God we trust" and/or it was present in our founding birth documents. Otherwise, why would you mention it after saying something completely irrelevant?


God is the Reason for our claim to Liberty.

The DEC shows that the reason for government is to protect our God Given Rights, Give up God, you give up your claim rights as well. and became a supporter of Human rights , ie a Communist or a Socialist.
 
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