Is it Biden’s fault gas is high in the UK?

[ttwtt78640]

All you have to do is order one.

When I bought the first hybrid in 2001 the only ones that the dealers had on the lots were the test drive cars. All purchases of them were by order with the wait time being around 6 weeks. I got mine sooner.

We bought my ex a Chevy Volt in 2013. The dealers only had test drive cars on the lot. Everyone had to order one. Which we did and he got his car about 4 weeks later.

The beauty of ordering one, you get the exact car you want. Not what is available on the lot so you don't have to compromise on the options. So when we ordered the one for my ex, every option was on it, I swear if I could figure out which buttons to press, that car would brush my teeth for me. LOL. Seriously, you can get a very cool car that way. My ex loves that car and will dive it until it totally dies.

There is no reason to not order one. There are full EVs, full hybrids and combination EV/hybrid.

Pick one and order it.

Or you can buy a used one. They are all over the internet. In fact, I found a used hybrid Rav4 for my best friend last month. She loves it and says she will never buy another regular gas vehicle again.

Really, there is no excuse to not buy one. As Nike says "just do it."

Your “just do it“ idea works for about 600K new EVs/year. That may seem like a lot until you realize that that the US has about 280M privately registered motor vehicles. See post #68.

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[Winston]

What's the point of your question? Is it your fault? It's Putin's fault right?

Biden is the wizard of petroleum I thought

 

[less right]

No they are selling gas at a higher price. Sales tax amounts due are based on the sales price. When the sales price of X goes up, so does the amount of tax due on X sales - without any change in the sales tax rate.

The same is true for property taxes. With no change in the property tax rate, when the assessed value of property goes up by 10% so does the amount of sales tax revenue.

That makes sense. The cost of the product went up so the amount of tax collected goes up accordingly without raising tax rates.

It also explains why the taxes can't be blamed in this case for the increase in gas prices. Particularly since I just read that the UK had reduced petrol taxes in March for the next 12 months.

 

[ttwtt78640]

That makes sense. The cost of the product went up so the amount of tax collected goes up accordingly without raising tax rates.

It also explains why the taxes can't be blamed in this case for the increase in gas prices. Particularly since I just read that the UK had reduced petrol taxes in March for the next 12 months.

Yet it clearly shows that government actions can (and do) impact gas pump prices.

 

[less right]

Yet it clearly shows that government actions can (and do) impact gas pump prices.

No doubt. But in this case it's the product value causing the price to rise (and subsequent rise in taxes collected), not the taxes raising the price of the product.

 

[ttwtt78640]

No doubt. But in this case it's the product value causing the price to rise (and subsequent rise in taxes collected), not the taxes raising the price of the product.

Yep, and that product’s production costs are also controlled by government regulations. If you want more US crude oil production do you increase or decrease the land available for drilling leases and/or the royalty rates charged for those leases?

 

[Hypothetical]

All you have to do is order one.

When I bought the first hybrid in 2001 the only ones that the dealers had on the lots were the test drive cars. All purchases of them were by order with the wait time being around 6 weeks. I got mine sooner.

We bought my ex a Chevy Volt in 2013. The dealers only had test drive cars on the lot. Everyone had to order one. Which we did and he got his car about 4 weeks later.

The beauty of ordering one, you get the exact car you want. Not what is available on the lot so you don't have to compromise on the options. So when we ordered the one for my ex, every option was on it, I swear if I could figure out which buttons to press, that car would brush my teeth for me. LOL. Seriously, you can get a very cool car that way. My ex loves that car and will dive it until it totally dies.

There is no reason to not order one. There are full EVs, full hybrids and combination EV/hybrid.

Pick one and order it.

Or you can buy a used one. They are all over the internet. In fact, I found a used hybrid Rav4 for my best friend last month. She loves it and says she will never buy another regular gas vehicle again.

Really, there is no excuse to not buy one. As Nike says "just do it."

sure there's an excuse... how much do they cost?

 

[less right]

Yep, and that product’s production costs are also controlled by government regulations. If you want more US crude oil production do you increase or decrease the land available for drilling leases and/or the royalty rates charged for those leases?

Since oil production has been over 4B barrels a year since 2019 apparently it's not a matter of leases but of pumping.

 

[Bear5131]

46-49%.

So that means it's still $4.59 to $4.86 per gallon without taxes. In the US, ours would be $0.50 less without taxes, so we are still paying less.

Damn that Biden!!!

You forgot about the Vax tax, try try try again

 

[NatMorton]

You haven't explained why it is Biden's fault so there is that glaring omission in right-wing facts and logic.

Because the signs of inflation have been building for years and he and his administration claimed no action was necessary because it was only going to be "temporary." The severity of the measures we now need to take are likely to trigger a recession, which is something that could have been avoided with earlier (and thus more limited) action.

 

[NatMorton]

YOU included those countries, not him. You said G20 countries and those are G20 countries.

The rampant dishonesty is just overwhelming sometimes.

My point stands. While those countries are in the G20, they are not economic peers, and only a fool would think they are.

 

[ttwtt78640]

Since oil production has been over 4B barrels a year since 2019 apparently it's not a matter of leases but of pumping.

Yep, supply has been fairly constant as demand rises, thus causing price inflation.

 

[NatMorton]

Inflation in Europe is the same as it is here.

Europe inflation is 8.1%

United States inflation is 8.3% It was 8.5% but it has come down a little.

Inflation isn't higher here in the US.

Please stop posting things that aren't true.

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Europe has only recently caught up, and you're also precluding the possibility that their leaders have made the same mistakes as ours.

 

[Winston]

My point stands. While those countries are in the G20, they are not economic peers, and only a fool would think they are.

Lol.

It certainly does not stand.

Your entire narrative died in that one post regarding US being 8th among G20 countries

 

[NatMorton]

Lol.

It certainly does not stand.

Your entire narrative died in that one post regarding US being 8th among G20 countries

So you think countries like Brazil and Argentina represent a fair benchmark?

 

[less right]

Because the signs of inflation have been building for years and he and his administration claimed no action was necessary because it was only going to be "temporary." The severity of the measures we now need to take are likely to trigger a recession, which is something that could have been avoided with earlier (and thus more limited) action.

If the signs have been building for years it seems arbitrary to blame the last guy in line for the problem.

While Biden may not have an effective solution (and he's responsible for what we (fed gov) do now), it sounds like a problem not of his making.

 

[NatMorton]

If the signs have been building for years it seems arbitrary to blame the last guy in line for the problem.

While Biden may not have an effective solution (and he's responsible for what we (fed gov) do now), it sounds like a problem not of his making.

He's made it worse, and possibly much worse.

 

[ElChupacabra]

First of all gas price is high everywhere. If anyone particular is to blame, blame Putin for invading Ukraine, while it's not the only reason, it's one of the greatest contributors.

How to solve it? You can't. It can't be saved. The only way forward is promoting alternatives. That way we can free ourselves from our pathetic enslavement to fossil fuels.

And I would add to that the lesson of diversifying the energy portfolio to build contingencies for failures of any given energy source and do everything possible to not be reliant on specific nations/regions for the resources needed to produce the technology used for alternative energy. That's by no means an easy task, but it makes sense to solve those problems as well.

 

[ElChupacabra]

No, but just to make this more entertaining I am going to blame Obama.

Just to be fair, I'll blame W too. It's easy to blame W...

 

[Grandpappy]

Joe's policies made it more expensive to produce gasoline in the USA. This affected the world market, so ya. The Brits need some of those "I did That" Joe stickers on their petrol pumps. It would only be fitting.

 

[Slyfox696]

Exactly - crude oil production is roughly the same while demand is rising. That drives the global price of crude oil up.

So when you talk about governments limiting supply, are you speaking primarily of OPEC?

 

[ttwtt78640]

So when you talk about governments limiting supply, are you speaking primarily of OPEC?

And in the US - the world’s #1 oil producer. Those trying to pretend that Biden did not change US “fossil fuel” policy are simply lying.

 

[Slyfox696]

My point stands.

"My point still stands says the person desperate to make sure everyone forgot the point he was trying to make".

The USA is mostly in the middle of the pack in terms of inflation amongst G20 countries, so your point certainly doesn't have the effect you wanted it to.

While those countries are in the G20, they are not economic peers, and only a fool would think they are.

...who in the G20 is the economic peer of the United States? What country in the entire world is the economic peer of the United States? China is the only country in the world that can be said to be close to an economic peer of the United States. So you're saying the USA's inflation is higher than communist and data controlled China? And...that was the point you were making that you feel stands?

 

[Slyfox696]

And in the US - the world’s #1 oil producer. Those trying to pretend that Biden did not change US “fossil fuel” policy are simply lying.

But production is higher now than it was 2 years ago. Compared to OPEC, who is "...still supplying some two and a half million barrels a day less than in spring 2020."

I don't think it is the American government causing the drastic increase in gas prices, at least not compared to the significant decrease in output from OPEC and now the Russia/Ukraine war.

 

[Winston]

So you think countries like Brazil and Argentina represent a fair benchmark?

I think that the overall trend of global inflation destroys the narrative that it’s Biden’s fault. Along with the US being 8th among G20 countries.